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  • Thoroughbred Tattoo # - NEW pictures taken, can you read the last #?

    I have a thoroughbred, which I can "almost" read his tattoo.

    C1221?
    D1221?

    The only # that came up in the Canadian Jockey Club was C12213, bred in Texas? but Im not sure if thats "my" horse? If it helps any, he is a dark bay gelding likely born in 1999 or 2000. Not sure if he has raced.
    Last edited by SquishTheBunny; Aug. 22, 2009, 03:44 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by SquishTheBunny View Post
    I have a thoroughbred, which I can "almost" read his tattoo.
    C12215 - No hits
    D12215 - Mare
    D12213 - No hits
    C12213 -

    Horse Name Traffico
    Tattoo C12213
    Year of Birth 1999
    Dam Name Police Procedure
    Color Dark Bay or Brown
    Sex Horse

    This horse was unraced. His two registered siblings raced but were not winners and had no earnings.

    What are his white markings by leg and on his head? We can be more certain with markings.

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    • Original Poster

      #3
      Thanks...thats the one I pulled up too.

      No markings at all...does that match??

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      • #4
        No hits on C12213 if you specify no markings. Which numbers are you positive on? Take a look at the cowlicks/whorls on his head, that will be the only way to figure out which one he is with no white markings. One cowlick or two? Above the eyes, off-center, between the eyes- the more detail the better.

        If you can get some decent photos and post them, it might help to get some more ideas. Blot his lip, take pictures without a flash. If you have access to a blacklight, that can help make things easier to see as well.....

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        • Original Poster

          #5
          Thanks, I am positive on ? 1221? The letter seriously looks like an O or upside down horseshoe almost, but could be a C or a D. I was told he was born in 1999, which would make him a C.

          Last letter looks like a 5, actually, Im pretty certain its 12215 but there is no horse registered with that tattoo. Are all TB's that have tattoos registered with jockey club?
          Hes terribly slow, so it wouldnt suprise me if he never set foot on a racetrack.

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          • #6
            Many breeds actually do lip tats.
            Check horse reunion, an offshoot of the FUGLY blog for more info.
            Maybe he's appendix?

            If he is TB and has a lip tat they intended to race him, and for that he has to be registered.
            That is to say the lip tat does not come before the registration. He could be registered without a lip tat, but not the other way around it as far as I know.
            Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

            http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

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            • #7
              B1221? No Match
              C1221? No Match
              D1221? One Match: No white markings. Double vertical cowlick at eye level.

              Horse Name Stable Unrest
              Tattoo D12214
              Year of Birth 2000
              Dam Name Carry (CHI)
              Color Dark Bay or Brown
              Sex Horse

              Nothing comes back with E, F or G running those numbers with the wildcard at the end. Check his cowlicks and whorls, that's the only way you'll have a chance at figuring out if he's a match.

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              • Original Poster

                #8
                Pictures!!

                Here are pictures of the tattoo.... Definately D1221 (4?) Does anyone see a 4 as the last #? If so, then he would be the one you found!!!

                ....guess it would help if I posted the pictures!
                http://community.webshots.com/album/574264287RUTvpe

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                • #9
                  I have read a lot of TB tattoos, and this one is really clear! Good job on the photos (tip for the next time, try dabbing some baby powder on the lip to cut the shine). It looks like D12214 to me (my very observant 8 year old agrees). Often, the far right character is somewhat warped on lip tattoos (my theory is that a right-handed tattoo person does a worse job the further right they go on the horse's lip). That said, I'd also check out any other possibilities for this last character (which in your case would be D12219).

                  I'll bet D12214 is your winner.

                  Once you've figured out what horse you think you have, get the racing record. If your horse won any races, contact that track, ask for the track photographer, and then try to get finish line and winner's circle photos.

                  A 20 year old TB came to me as a rescue with a very faded tattoo. My friend and I confirmed we had the correct horse by tracking down finish line photos of the horse, who was indeed the multiple stakes winner we thought he was. He has an old, bad overreach scar, and sure enough, in the racing photo, his foot was all bloody, so we even discovered when he'd injured his foot!

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                  • #10
                    I would say that's a 4 as well. Double-check the cowlicks on his face to make sure. No other matches come back for D1221? for a plain dark bay, so ending in a 9 isn't possible unless he's been unregistered.

                    And Stable Unrest was bred in Ontario, so even more likely that's your boy.

                    Name: Stable Unrest
                    Sire: War Deputy
                    Dam: Carry (CHI)
                    DamSire: Mr. Long
                    Sex: Horse
                    Year Foaled: 2000
                    Area Foaled: ON
                    Status: Nominated

                    http://www.pedigreequery.com/stable+unrest

                    Bred in ON by George Strawbridge, foaled March 25, 2000. 5 Starts, unplaced. He is an example of out-cross breeding in the first 5 generations- no inbreeding at all.
                    Last edited by Cammie; Aug. 22, 2009, 07:23 PM.

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                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      THANK YOU

                      He is most definately Stable Unrest (Or as I repeated, Unsable Rest lol). 5 starts and 0 wins .... sounds very much like him!!! So "Stable Unrest" is now somewhat enjoying his career in the A/O hunters! And a bonus, he's a year younger than I thought!! Thanks again guys!!

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                      • #12
                        Also wanted to mention that he has a full sister born 2003. His dam produced some nice horses on the track early on & then tailed off....

                        http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.p...l%20Horses&cf=

                        (you have to go up to reports & then click on progeny to see all her foals)

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                        • #13
                          Ooohhh... would anyone be interested in pulling up one for me... Please??? U09750 I would REALLY appreciate it!!!!!
                          "Life is too short to be a slave to the whims of others." -- RugBug, COTH

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by janedoe726 View Post
                            Ooohhh... would anyone be interested in pulling up one for me... Please??? U09750 I would REALLY appreciate it!!!!!
                            Here you go-

                            1991 Bay Gelding named Fine Dance.

                            Pedigree- http://www.pedigreequery.com/fine+dance

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for looking- must have read the tatoo wrong. He's chesnut. I might try to get a pic. Thanks again!!!!
                              "Life is too short to be a slave to the whims of others." -- RugBug, COTH

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                              • #16
                                Give us the details on the chestnut. Any white markings at all? Take a look at the tattoo again and let us know which numbers you are positive on so it can be narrowed down.

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                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  This is so interesting! Thanks for all the info! Really weired, my one TB's dad, had a baby with my other TB's mom... ohhhh the drama!! Better not tell them their parents were unfaithful, there may be some roundbale discussions!!

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post
                                    If he is TB and has a lip tat they intended to race him, and for that he has to be registered.
                                    That is to say the lip tat does not come before the registration. He could be registered without a lip tat, but not the other way around it as far as I know.
                                    CAn anyone confirm the above, they can't be tattoo'd and not registered, right?
                                    Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

                                    http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

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                                    • #19
                                      That's correct--the tat number is the registration number and the letter at the front is the birth year. However, Appendix QHs and standardbreds are also tattooed--slightly different format, iirc.

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                                      • #20
                                        CAn anyone confirm the above, they can't be tattoo'd and not registered, right?
                                        From the Thoroughbred Racing Protective Bureau rulebook:

                                        In order to have your Thoroughbred lip-tattooed, you must possess a valid Certificate of Registration issued by The Jockey Club. There is a $68. US / $80. CAN charge for each horse tattooed, plus any expenses for a technician's travel exceeding reasonable and customary practice. Any thoroughbred whose markings are at variance with its Jockey Club Certificate of Registration will be rejected for tattooing and no fee charged. Travel expenses may still apply. Any Thoroughbred rejected for tattooing must receive a corrected certificate before tattooing can proceed.

                                        Thoroughbred horses are required by most state racing commission rules to be lip tattooed in order to participate in an official Thoroughbred race. The tattoo serves as an additional means of identification for the Thoroughbred while racing. As a service to all Thoroughbred racetracks to enable their compliance with these rules, the Thoroughbred Racing Protective Bureau applies the tattoo brand to Thoroughbreds stabled at all Thoroughbred Racing Association member tracks as well as non-member tracks and farms throughout the United States and Canada.

                                        The Thoroughbred’s tattoo consists of a letter, corresponding to the horse’s year of birth, and four or five numbers. Tattoo Identification Services assists owners and agents in the identification of Thoroughbreds based upon what The Jockey Club records indicate to be the correct tattoo for a particular horse. In cases of tattooer error or international horses, The Jockey Club records might not reflect the actual tattoo present on the horse in question.

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