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    #21
    Originally posted by BeastieSlave View Post
    m..... I wonder why she didn't call to complain that you had shorted her when they first arrived?

    Just kidding - of course!
    no she (I mean her managers) always buy by the ton and the bales have always been the same...off our slicer and three plastic bands

    but ours are cut with two giant razors that the hay is pushed into by giant hydraulic arms....there's no fluff or rebaling, just slicing of the original...

    CA is right...the most disgusting hay can be rebaled tight and fancy...but not more than once the shatter is like MP said...ticker tape or pretty close

    trust me...the moment we can make 750lb 3x3x8 bale fit in a cadillac sedan deville's trunk....we will be there...but just not happening yet....
    Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
    I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Tamara in TN View Post

      trust me...the moment we can make 750lb 3x3x8 bale fit in a cadillac sedan deville's trunk....we will be there...but just not happening yet....
      Well heck, I guess we won't be getting any of those cute micro bales by UPS. Sure would be easier than driving out to the local farmer and picking up a semi-load of hay ourselves!!

      I also was picturing folding the hay over and over into little TINY packages, to rebale it four times. The picture was not working well, though the visual with folding sword steel (damacus steel) was a good one!

      I LOVED the POOF mental picture! Thanks to all above who have entertained me today. Sorry Tamara, that you have such peculiar customers, but that is the horse business.

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      • #23
        Tamara- tell me about how this hay slicer works, I'm intrigued. We just bale our hay with a little ol' New Holland that spits out little square bales one at a time. I'm guessing you bale the big squares (because it's less labor intensive), then when you have an order for small squares you run them through this machine that slices and re-ties into small bales. Correct?

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          #24
          Originally posted by shakeytails View Post
          I'm guessing you bale the big squares (because it's less labor intensive), then when you have an order for small squares you run them through this machine that slices and re-ties into small bales. Correct?
          right

          we have two big square balers and that brings in about 125 acres a day if everything goes right...we sell those either as the big sqs or the smalls...makes no matter to us

          the machine is one of only about 12 here in the States...it was custom made for us and our facility and then they further tweaked it for our hay types and machinery...

          it is/they are here:
          http://www.steffensystems.com/Produc...tems/index.htm

          if you are ever down here...I'd be proud to give you the tour....

          best
          Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
          I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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          • #25
            I'd lay a small wager that her vet said no such thing...
            "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

            ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ghazzu View Post
              I'd lay a small wager that her vet said no such thing...

              that could be too...or maybe someone of her buddies gave up their opinion of the hay...

              but then again Doc, we have had some really really strange vet comments over the years...

              best
              Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
              I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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              • #27
                Tamara that system is way cool! I found another video, too- for anybody else that's easily amused . http://www.mchay.com/ease-rite-video1.html

                I so very much want one and the big balers and all the toys that go with it.... but since we only cut 40-50 acres each year I hardly think it would be very cost efficient!

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                  #28
                  [QUOTE]
                  Originally posted by shakeytails View Post
                  Tamara that system is way cool! I found another video, too- for anybody else that's easily amused . http://www.mchay.com/ease-rite-video1.html

                  yes that is the same system we have (plus more computer literacy than I have )


                  I so very much want one and the big balers and all the toys that go with it.... but since we only cut 40-50 acres each year I hardly think it would be very cost efficient!

                  we cut 1600 acres no less than 3 times...normally 5...and it was all we could do to justify the cost...trust me

                  best
                  Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
                  I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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                  • #29
                    Tamara really does enjoy giving tours, and I sit there in the passenger seat of her car with my jaw in my lap. It is really an impressive operation. The size of the machinery would have given me serious nightmares when I was a wee tike (yes, I actually was, once upon a time), and it all just fits together--even tho I've never been there on a major cutting/baling day, it's clear what a big and smooth operation it all is. This is not cutting-and-baling the way your local farmer does. But that compressed baling system is just wow. Anyone who enjoys seeing a creative, elaborate mechanical system come together and function would just get chills.

                    Since we travel about three hours to get there and have to come through a gorge that has unpredictable weather, Calvin has been very generous in wrapping the hay we put in the truck beds in a tarp and then shrink-wrapping the whole big block so we don't have to worry about the afternoon showers on the way home. He commented to me that the shrink-wrapped bundles look much nicer, going down the road; I told him he should get Production Acres decals to put on them so people whould know who it is that cares enough to do that.

                    Okay, so now you're wondering how they get the tarp-wrapped and shrink-wrapped bundle block (part of the compressee baling process) into the bed of the truck, but I'm not going to give away all of the secrets .

                    Definitely a fun place to visit.
                    "One person's cowboy is another person's blooming idiot" -- katarine

                    Spay and neuter. Please.

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                    • #30
                      Oh, believe me, I'd love to see that operation, but with 17 horses we don't get out much. I just mapped it for fun- it's like "you can't get there from here", at least not easily. I imagine over 100 miles on 127 isn't a whole lot of fun, but probably pretty!

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                      • #31
                        It has occurred to me that you need to be VERRRRRY careful here - this could indeed be a case of "hay swap". If the now fired manager perhaps purchased lovely good expensive hay from you with the barn owner's money and sold it to somebody else then bought cheapo yucko (indeed rebaled) hay somewhere else and POCKETED THE DIFFERENCE which could be a lot of money - also, what do you know about your shippers??? Any chance the hay could have been misdirected and the difference pocketed by a shipper? You need look at any points at which the hay could have been waylaid because this could explain the whole thing. Or could the BARN OWNER have done it?????? Could explain why she wants to simply toss what she has; she might know it isn't your hay and that you will know it if you see it!!!

                        Definitely you need to launch an investigation....

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                        • #32
                          If it is any consolation TamaraTN, I worship my hay people.

                          For every nutbag out there you know you have a hundred you love you
                          I Loff My Quarter Horse & I love Fenway Bartholomule cliques

                          Just somebody with a positive outlook on life...go ahead...hate me for that.

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                            #33
                            Originally posted by Minerva Louise View Post
                            Could explain why she wants to simply toss what she has; she might know it isn't your hay and that you will know it if you see it!!!

                            Definitely you need to launch an investigation....
                            well

                            there are all kinds of people who want to throw away the "garbage" and get the money too more than I care to count actually...but if we replace it, then the other hay is our property at that point

                            our trucks make the delivery and they have always had a good time at the barn even with it being an overnite trip to get there...

                            I'm sure it's our hay she's just hysterical...it happens a bunch
                            Last edited by Tamara in TN; Aug. 13, 2009, 04:05 PM.
                            Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
                            I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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                            • #34
                              Oohhh! Can I put in an order for some of these newfangled "micro-bales"??? How many could I fit in the backseat of my Expedition? A year's worth?
                              Crayola posse~ orange yellow, official pilot
                              Proud owner of "High Flight" & "Shorty"

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                              • #35
                                WOW!! Nice set up. That is just way cool...

                                We had a horse colic, we had bought him the week before, not a bad colic, the vet asked to see our hay. We showed it to him and he said it was much too rich, we should get some cheap stuff for him to get adjusted. ???
                                It was fescue. ( why can't I spell? ) We baled it. Granted it looked really pretty, but is there a 'lower grade'? Anyway it just made us not trust that vet much.
                                You would make a fortune just selling those 4x compresser machines.
                                Idiots, the world is just full of them.

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                                • #36
                                  Tamara,

                                  please could you email me some micro-bales? I plan to store them on my hard drive and then just download them right before I need them. Forget the dresser drawer and I am now planning on dismantling my hay shed as it is obviously no longer needed. I will pay via paypal.

                                  Regards,
                                  Kate

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                                  • #37
                                    Tamara,

                                    I am reading of your (micro hay bales) for sale. Please are they in good condition? What is your last best price? I must leave for Argentina tomorrow and wish for these for my wife birthday in Buenos Aires. I will pay by cashier's check including shipping, my shipper will contact you for pick-up. Please deduct and keep $400 extra from total for you troubles.
                                    ...somewhere between the talent and the potato....

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                                    • #38
                                      Wish I was close enough to come for a tour. If I were close enough I'd probably get my hay from there too. That video is *nothing* like the haying I used to help with when I was a younger human.
                                      So when are you going to start delivering to New England.
                                      You jump in the saddle,
                                      Hold onto the bridle!
                                      Jump in the line!
                                      ...Belefonte

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                                      • #39
                                        Tamara, if it's any consolation, we have a little shrine in our home devoted to our hay supplier. SOME people appreciate their hay person!!!!

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