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  • Foundation per ApHC

    Okay, I went to the ApHC website and downloaded a couple of pages from the Handbook:

    236. Foundation Pedigree Designation (FPD) Requirements:
    A. To be eligible for FPD program, the horse must be registered with the ApHC. This option may also be done concurrently with the application for registration. A horse must also meet the following criteria:
    1. A minimum of 73% (22) of its ancestors in the preceding four (4) generations must be registered with the ApHC,
    2. There must be a minimum of three (3) of these ancestors on both sire and dam sides of the pedigree,
    3. Any and All 'F' numbered horses within the preceding four (4) generations of the applicant horse's pedigree are to be considered 100% for FPD registration purposes, regardless of the parentage of those 'F' numbered horses,
    4. Every 5 years, beginning in 2009, the mionimum percentage of eligibility will increase incrementally by requiring one additional horse in the preceding four generations of the applicant horse to be registered with ApHC; that is, 23 out of 30 beginning in 2009, then 24 out of 30 beginning in 2014, and so on.

    I think the question comes with counting the generations. I believe FAHR counts them differently, and requires a full 75% of Appy blood. FAHR does require ApHC registration first, however.
    Last edited by Sandy M; Nov. 9, 2006, 02:35 PM.

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    • Original Poster

      Thanks, Sandy! I'm going to do some looking--I *think* my girl qualifies but I'm not sure. She has a big dose of tb way back, but it's further back than 4 generations. She does have some QH, too, but I don't think it's a lot. Thanks again!

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      • Original Poster

        Even though Prince Plaudit is in her 4th generation, she's got too large a dose of tb back there to qualify for Foundation. She's pretty close, though!

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        • Originally posted by lilblackhorse View Post
          http://www.appaloosajournal.com/ad/s.../thequest.html

          this ain't no appy in my book...*sigh*
          And he's HYPP H/N to boot!
          Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

          Proud Closet Canterer! Member Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.

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          • Originally posted by summerhorse View Post
            And he's HYPP H/N to boot!
            Disgusting. Extreme QH (Impressive) conformation, no color, HYPP H/N... but he's an APPALOOSA !! (NOT!)

            (and in the back of my mind, I have the impression that his sire, or a close relative of his sire, was put down at an early age because of soundness issues....I may be wrong...but I thought I saw that and wondered about what "issues" the horse might have had with that sort of breeding.)

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            • Originally posted by Sandy M View Post
              Disgusting. Extreme QH (Impressive) conformation, no color, HYPP H/N... but he's an APPALOOSA !! (NOT!)

              (and in the back of my mind, I have the impression that his sire, or a close relative of his sire, was put down at an early age because of soundness issues....I may be wrong...but I thought I saw that and wondered about what "issues" the horse might have had with that sort of breeding.)
              Actually his sire (Im. Andrew) was in his late teens I believe when he was put down. Not OLD but not young either. He was a weird looking horse. Don't know if he was H/N or H/H but I would suspect that had something to do with his soundness "issues"! But I don't know for sure. He sure did his part spreading HYPP around though. =(
              Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

              Proud Closet Canterer! Member Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.

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              • Originally posted by zagafi View Post
                Even though Prince Plaudit is in her 4th generation, she's got too large a dose of tb back there to qualify for Foundation. She's pretty close, though!

                If she's that "close," then presumably if you bred her to a Foundation bred stallion .... say Butterwap Confetti or some of the JG stallions (not all, some are 1/2 TB)....the result would be FPD eligible.

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                  Originally posted by Sandy M View Post
                  If she's that "close," then presumably if you bred her to a Foundation bred stallion .... say Butterwap Confetti or some of the JG stallions (not all, some are 1/2 TB)....the result would be FPD eligible.
                  Heck, even if the baby weren't eligible, it would be gorgeous. Butterwap Confetti is a hottie and, while I'm certainly biased, my girl's a looker, too(she's in my profile).

                  If I had some spare $$ lying about Spiced Hot Chocklate might just have to come live with me. Ye gods, that baby is beautiful!!

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                  • Real Apps look (and perform) like this http://www.teamceoeventing.com/directory.html

                    Or like Mood Indigo, the 6th horse down http://www.teamceoeventing.com/horses.html -- 16'3", 1500 pounds, 100% Rangerbred with no outcrosses on his recorded pedigree.

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                    • Originally posted by mrsbwayne View Post
                      I was going to breed Allegra to a grey w/b last year and everybody said NOOOOOOO!! Sarina
                      I bred my App stallion to mother/daughter Arab mares - both grey. They produced two of the loudest colored colts I'd ever seen. When they shed their baby fuzz they were BOTH black and white leopards! They never grayed out and stayed true black and white. Those were the only leopards my stud ever produced.
                      Founder of the Olde Farte Clique

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                      • Originally posted by summerhorse View Post
                        And he's HYPP H/N to boot!
                        Look how many H/H stallions are in the journal this month. The ApHC should have jumped on that years ago, and closed the books in the 80's.

                        I was going to send this thread to the journal, but I cant figure out how to? How did you know the thread number?

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                        • Originally posted by zagafi View Post
                          Heck, even if the baby weren't eligible, it would be gorgeous. Butterwap Confetti is a hottie and, while I'm certainly biased, my girl's a looker, too(she's in my profile).

                          If I had some spare $$ lying about Spiced Hot Chocklate might just have to come live with me. Ye gods, that baby is beautiful!!

                          Well, I got Magic Marker, but he's staying "home" in Bakersfield until he's about 3.

                          Meanwhile I have to find a retirement home or sponsor for my present guy (see profile). Any NoCal Appaloosa lovers interested in sponsoring a slightly arthritic 2nd/3rd level schoolmaster and trail horse extraordinaire? (He's in Walnut Creek).

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