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    Wow. Have you seen this "blacklist" of horse adopters?

    http://www.crossedsabers.com/ABOUT%2...Black_List.htm

    Interesting, huh? I got a mare from them--wonderful companion for my stallion for 3 years before gray horse tumors took her away. I got some curious emails about the mare a few years later, so when I noticed this link on the site, I actually went to make sure my name wasn't on it! I'm HONESTLY not sure if this is a good idea or a bad one, but whatever way you lean, perhaps it's good to know about?
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    Didn't look at the link yet, but it's standard for rescues/shelters to keep a "DNA" (Do Not Adopt) lists. In fact, you can find statewide lists on Yahoo groups. Usually, the reasons for applying the DNA label are listed or discussed, and individual groups can decide if they also would refuse to adopt to that person or not.
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      #3
      I think that SWAP and their officers should be at the head of their own blacklist. Ultimately it is their greed that led to the names that follow. Bet that isn't the response you were looking for huh!?! Seriously, I am on my last nerve with some of these rescues. Some of their horses are more refugees than rescuees IMO.
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        #4
        I'm somewhat surprised they haven't been sued for slander - since a lot of that hasn't been held up in court.
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          #5
          I would NEVER adopt a horse from them...and I am very very pro adoption..there are a multitude of reasons, but as a for instance who in their right mind would adopt out 17 horses to the same person in less than a year and then complain that they were not taken care of properly.

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            #6
            I read through a couple and noticed that Lone Star Equine Rescue and a local police department are also on their blacklist for taking possession of sick horses. Sounds to me like SWAP is more concerned with maintaining control of their horses than they are about doing what's best for those horses. Keeping a "Do not adopt" list is one thing, but 5 minutes perusing that website has me convinced SWAP is a bunch of psychos.
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              #7
              Actually, Laurierace, I really, truly am not sure how to consider this! It's good to know that DNAs are used in the adoption arena--too many kooks and abusers out there--but at the same time, I found myself CRINGING about the potential for slander and how it represents only one side's view.
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                #8
                She is married to one of the worst rednecks in WV who does not care about animals at all and she become just like him.
                I'm sorry we can no longer recommend _________ if you care about your horse and would prefer that none of the SWAP horses be moved using his transport because we are no longer allowing him on our farm. First of all, his prices are outrageous. Additionally, Terry came onto the women that worked for the program even though he's married making us all very uncomfortable about meeting him. He additionally had nothing but negative things to say about every person he picked up horses from and delivered to (about how they kept their horses), with that in mind we figured he was probably talking about us too, which later we found out he was telling people that we didn't care about the horses and didn't clean our stalls, which is just not true at all, we pay to have our stalls cleaned, so much so that no one else gets paid because we have to spend so much on the stalls and keeping the barn clean and to keep our stall cleaner happy and have our stalls cleaned daily.



                Who wrote this? It reads like it was written by a child. No reputable horse rescue would ever publically slander people that aren't convicted in a court of law for fear of legal action - but I do love these two particular comments, they stuck out.
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                  #9
                  ! I would think that if they have had that many problem adoptions, they are almost certainly doing something--or many things--wrong. I do agree that there probably needs to be some sort of DNA list, but I am not sure it needs to be publicized. And I would RUN, not walk, from that rescue. Those people are not just unprofessional, they are scary.

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                    #10
                    Shock and awe. By the length of that list, I'd say they're not spending enough time doing background checks and follow-ups.

                    That list is unreal!
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                      #11
                      WTF???????

                      The last time this horse was here, she was fat, muscled up, well fed, all her health care done, had a beautiful wavy tail down to her feet, which is now broken off at her hock and shorter. This is a disgrace to the horse industry and to horse people that Emily did this to this horse
                      Uh, yeah. Horse abuse at it's worst...a shortened tail?
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                        #12
                        Actually, I think these SWAP people are nuts. I have no issues with a "blacklist" or a "DNA" list, in fact I think it is a good idea, but just put up the names and "call for more information" or something similar. There is absolutely no reason to put up what they did.

                        I'm surprised they haven't been sued for this as well. And the fact that they have two gov't entities on the list is absurd.

                        Not to mention, if they care so much, why is there adoption area so large. Many adoption agencies I know won't let an animal go beyond a certain mileage away from them. These people have adopted horses out all over the country! kinda insane, in my opinion.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by fullmoon fever View Post
                          Uh, yeah. Horse abuse at it's worst...a shortened tail?
                          Ha!

                          It never ceases to amaze me how crazy people can be and this:

                          she calls herself a Christian but she only uses that as a veil to hide behind when she wants to do her wrong doings against horses

                          What kind of a thing is that to say?! Is this a personal vendetta or actually about horses?
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                            #14
                            Why did they adopt horses to all of these people without first checking references and accomodations?

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                              #15
                              I've never seen a 10K adoption horse before!!

                              Are they a bona fide not-for-profit????

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                                #16
                                Hm, I wonder if any of the folks "blacklisted" know about this?

                                This is a major multiple libel lawsuit waiting to happen, IMO.

                                Oh yeah, and these people appear to be fruitbatting crazy, too.
                                Homeopathy claims water can cure you since it once held medicine. That's like saying you can get sustenance from an empty plate because it once held food.

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                                  #17
                                  A lot of rescues maintain internal DNAs - we do. BUT we would never publish ours, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

                                  We also won't ban an adopter based on another rescue's DNA - we may check them out harder, but I've seen people turned down for reasons like 'He won't be spending enough time/day with his horse' or 'We don't like his boarding barn owner." or whatever.... We check out everything for ourselves.
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                                    #18
                                    nearly 100k for the value of all 3 horses
                                    WOW. You can have ANY 3 horses on my farm for $100k... and they sure ain't rescues...

                                    ~Adrienne

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                                      #19
                                      OMG - I sold a horse to one of the people on that list several years ago. She bounced a check to me. I took her to court and she was suppose to make payments but never did. On top of all that I had to repo the horse and she was at least 300+ pounds underweight and living in a barbed wire sh*t filled pen. She was the saddest looking horse I've ever seen.

                                      Wish I'd seen this list back then.

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                                        #20
                                        "I've never seen a 10K adoption horse before!!
                                        Are they a bona fide not-for-profit????"

                                        Excellent question, and I have my own thoughts about that.

                                        If it's the same group I'm thinking of, they run ads in some horse magazines looking for horses to adopt. Amazing, isn't it, that a rescue would need more horses?

                                        I also received a couple of different "emergency" messages from the same group at different times a few years ago, looking for donations of supplies and money because they'd suddenly taken in 20 or 30 rescue horses from owners going out of business, etc. They didn't respond to emails offering to foster horses, I wonder why?

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