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  • Saddle advice? All purpose or other?

    I ride in a Wintec Pro Dressage. Bought it 2 yrs ago for hard to fit, pretty underweight horse that needed suppling work. I also liked the deep seat and the fact I could change gullets as he filled out.

    I am not going to pursue dressage, however, and my new goals are either an english pleasure class show (very basic!), jumping small cross rails/jumps - he was a H/J lesson horse before I got him, and he lights up when you point him at something - even trotting poles! My true love is hacking out and exploring with him. We also enjoy trotting hills. I ride 3-4 times a week, one is a lesson and I would say I hack out each time, sometimes for just a 15 minute cool down walk in the woods. He is quiet and not spooky (he's older).

    I do weekly lessons with a wonderful eventing instructor. We are working on flatwork right now, especially balancing the canter (horse and me!). She recommended an All Purpose saddle for me (even a Wintec). I also had the pleasure of riding in a very old Courbette she had, on her horse and I fell in love with it. Position, feel - if I could have bought it from her that moment I would have. That's what got me thinking about a new saddle.

    My riding position is this: I tend to tip forward more often than not. So I need a saddle that will help and trainer felt an All Purpose would give me more options position wise.

    I was thinking of looking for an old Courbette. BTW my horse filled out pretty nicely (it's been 2 years) but he still has the dips behind his withers and needs more topline. I just moved him to a new barn almost a month ago with better hay, grass, care, and he is gaining already and I am starting to finally see a topline change. So it's not as much of an issue.

    No matter what I buy, I plan on doing "try before you buy" if I can to make sure the fit is right.

    Any advice or saddle ideas? What about a close contact?

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    Well, most all purpose saddles will give you the option of riding with a slightly longer leg if you ever want to. CC saddles will certainly look better in a hunter ring for your pleasure classes etc. And there is so reason why you can't find a nice cc saddle to do basic flatwork in and stay balanced. I love my County Stabilizer for its all around good balance. (But I have a dressage saddle for flatwork anyway.)

    So it really comes down to what you find that fits you and your horse well, and that you are comfortable/secure in. And your personal choice.

    I've seen some good deals on eBay lately, including some Courbettes, if you can find the sellers who will allow a short trial. . .

    I personally like a medium seated saddle for trail riding, haven't had my County out there yet.

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    • #3
      Definitely make sure it suits you before you sign the check!

      I got a Wintec All-Purpose when I first shifted from stock to hunt seat. To me, it combined the disadvantages of a H/J saddle with all the disadvantages of a dressage saddle. I wound up giving it to my daughter, who'll ride anything.
      The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
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      • #4
        hmm, all I do is trail ride, and the only saddle I've tried that seems to fit my wide racking mare is an old Wintec 500 dressage saddle with the red gullet in it--and now I need to buy the white even wider gullet, since she has been gorging on grass all summer...

        Now, I am a white trash trail rider to the extent that I am not ashamed to ride her in this rig with a loud red nylon bridle (with an even louder red and white patent leather browband) and big ol trail stirrups. We look like hell, I'm sure, but we're both comfortable. For me a trail ride is no less than an hour and sometimes more than four hours. Its true that my butt can get a little stiff on that long of a ride but it would with any saddle, I'm thinking.

        I ride with long legs Western or English, and I feel like I'll fall off of saddles that dont have a deep seat. When I say trail ride understand I mean for the most part unimproved trails, some logging roads, up and down hills, crossing creeks, hopping logs, and spooking at deer and turkeys and armadillos and what all. I feel pretty secure in the dressage saddle.

        I'd love one of the new Wintec dressage saddles for trail-riding. Perhaps you and your instructor can borrow some saddles and see if there's a compromise for what you intend to do. Then there's always the option of starting a saddle collection...

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        • #5
          Going to tell you the "all purpose = no purpose" adage here...

          Truly, the "type" of saddle (AP, CC, etc) doesn't matter so long as it A) fits your horse; B) fits YOU; C) you feel secure in it. Let me put it this way - I am INFINITELY more comfortable doing all manner of things (hacking around, encountering "scary" situations, riding a hot horse, etc) in a a flat as a pancake saddle seat saddle. Put me in a nice, deep dressage saddle and watch a freakout happen. Truly - it's a matter of where you are comfortable.

          A close contact saddle will look better in the ring and will be more helpful when jumping, perhaps (though this does not apply to all).

          Your guy sounds like an interesting fit, so I would watch for saddles that are going to address that. I know County does something with Skidrow panels, which has built in padding for the dip behind the withers. I'm sure there are several other makers which do this. After my lovely experience with County I'd recommend taking a look at the Stabilizer and Innovation. There are many used options for these saddles as well - complete with skidrow panels and a million other little tweaks. I, like you, will tip forward if the balance in my saddle is not quite right (Pessoas feel like they're constantly launching me into the neck) - don't have this problem with my Stabilizer, and I feel tight as a tick in it.

          Another thing to consider - if you liked the Courbette that much and it fits your horse, why not look for the exact same model?

          See how many saddles you can borrow to try out - most barns have quite a collection You will know it when you sit in the RIGHT saddle - it will be easy to post, go into two-point, you'll feel sticky and NEVER want to get out of it. Dover has quite a saddle trial program, along with VTO, Ricks Heritage, etc. If you go the County route a rep will come and visit you with about a million saddles in tow. Saddle shopping can be fun - and exhausting... enjoy it as much as you can!

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