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  • Do all horses know how to swim?

    So in the course of a trail ride yesterday I accidentally almost went swimming. A large puddle (or small pond, apparently) across an old tractor road turned out to get very deep in the middle. Probably not so smart to wade out into it to see if we could get across, but my DH was bravely cheering me on from the shallows (!).

    I have never been swimming on a horse, and my first three thoughts as we started plunging through the deep water were "quicksand!" "sharks!" and "what if she doesn't know how to swim???" DH kindly advised me not to panic.

    We plunged back to dry land, with no repercussions except my boots full of water, wet saddle, and my jeans chafing all the way home.

    But I swear I've heard horror stories of horses drowning just because they didn't know how to swim...

    Can they naturally swim?

  • #2
    Where the heck were you?!?

    I used to go swimming with my horse when I was a teenager, it was great fun. My friend's horse used to sink down until all that was visible was her nose. We weren't bothered by this (clueless teenagers) probably because the horse wasn't bothered by this.

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    • #3
      Don't know how true it is, but some local old timer cowboys used to say that not all horses will swim and some got in trouble crossing deep water, when they had to bail out and the rider could not swim either.
      The other cowboys would get to them and fish them out.
      The horse just drifted and some, in rougher spots, drowned.

      Now, cowboys tell tall tales, so you never know if they were serious or not.

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      • #4
        As a person who used to work cows on the St. Johns river, I can tell you that MOST horses know how to swim. Some horses, however, panic when they have to, and can get in serious trouble. I had a gelding who had never seen water before and who tried to "run" across our pond the first time we turned him out. He plunged in and flailed around for a while, but eventually he got the idea, and ended up being the most enthusiastic swimmer at our barn. On hot days you'd see him out there just cruising around, only his head sticking out of the water.

        We never really taught the horses to swim, but when we'd have to cross deep water (which was fairly dangerous) we'd keep the young horses near an older horse (but not too near, as they'd often try to climb on the older horse!). Then just hang onto the saddle horn and don't try to interfere too much with the horse. Sometimes they'd plunge around for a while before they got the idea but they usually caught on pretty quickly. Then all you had to worry about were the gators. We each usually carried a dog across on the saddles (dogs attract gators so you don't want them swimming by themselves) and THAT wasn't a lot of fun for the horses!

        Also, it's not a good idea to cross deep puddles when you don't have a good idea of what's on the bottom - I got my mare stuck one time and we had to pull her out with another horse! Luckily she was calm and didn't freak herself out, but it could have been bad. People also throw all kinds of trash into water holes like broken bottles and metal.

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        • #5
          We swim our racehorses in a pool ahd while most are good at it every once in a while we get one that doesn't even try to swim and will sink to the bottom. We always have lines attached and plenty of hands for the first timers just in case we need to lift them out. Most really enjoy the pool after a couple of days figuring out it's better than galloping on hot days. Maybe one in a hundred just don't have a clue.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by lily04 View Post
            We swim our racehorses in a pool ahd while most are good at it every once in a while we get one that doesn't even try to swim and will sink to the bottom.
            THAT is hysterical. Although I guess it's not funny to either the horse or the folks who have to fish it out.


            Our old farm flooded once, and I took my horse of very little brain out to a deep spot and spent all day swimming and playing in the water. I figured if she could do it, then everyone must know how. Guess not. Of course, knowing her, she may not have realized there was no ground underneath her and just kept trotting, without any thought whatsoever as to why she was surrounded by water.

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            • #7
              I went to a pony club sleep-away camp for a few years, and one day a week was cross-country day where we would only have one lesson and it was out on the x-c course. In the afternoon instead of a second lesson, we would all takes the horses swimming. We would get on in shorts and bathing suits and helmets, with just a halter and lead. The pond had been dredged with gravel on the bottom, so we knew it was safe- and there was a ramp to walk the horses down.

              In the years I was there, only one horse had trouble. My friends little QH mare walked right down the ramp, and at the point where most horses would lift up and start swimming, she just kept right on walking until she was totally under water- ears and all. She walked a good four steps under water before she all of a sudden pops out of the water shaking her head violently and swims to the out ramp. She clearly got it at the end- it was just a bit scary there for a while- and they never did try swimming her again.

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              • #8
                I always thought any animal could swim in an emergency, even things like rabbits and groundhogs.
                I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Seven-up View Post
                  THAT is hysterical. Although I guess it's not funny to either the horse or the folks who have to fish it out.


                  Our old farm flooded once, and I took my horse of very little brain out to a deep spot and spent all day swimming and playing in the water. I figured if she could do it, then everyone must know how. Guess not. Of course, knowing her, she may not have realized there was no ground underneath her and just kept trotting, without any thought whatsoever as to why she was surrounded by water.

                  Is that the one wo dove into mud puddles?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
                    Is that the one wo dove into mud puddles?
                    It's pretty safe to assume that if I have a crazy or stupid story about a horse, it was about her.

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                    • #11
                      The most fun I ever had with my horse

                      was going to a 'swim meet' with horses. It was up near Ft. Leavenworth, and I went with friends. My horse had never swam, [swum?] before, so I didn't know what to expect. Heck I had never swum with a horse so I didn't know either. In this case we sort of hopped off a small embankment into the water. No hesitation at all, she snuffled a bit but was a good swimmer. and I trailed out behind holding the lead rope and mane. What a blast! Then you could 'feel' when she touched bottom, and pulled yourself onto her back. I think she enjoyed it as much as i did. What a great horse she was...
                      Another killer of threads

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by thatmoody View Post
                        Also, it's not a good idea to cross deep puddles when you don't have a good idea of what's on the bottom - I got my mare stuck one time ...!
                        As I like to say, Hind sight is a fat, happy bastard. I also got stuck once in a mud hole. Luckily, my mare was able to get herself out, but it was a nightmare kind of situation before the days when everyone carried cell phones.
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                        • #13
                          I always thought any animal could swim in an emergency, even things like rabbits and groundhogs.
                          Yes, most are capable of swimming in an emergency but some will panic instead of letting instinct kick in and can drown. Although there are some animals that just can't swim, like apes. Monkeys can but I think it's the apes who are built too heavy to stay afloat. Not sure if I have that right...I don't ever really deal with apes.

                          As I like to say, Hind sight is a fat, happy bastard. I also got stuck once in a mud hole. Luckily, my mare was able to get herself out, but it was a nightmare kind of situation before the days when everyone carried cell phones.
                          That happened to me when I was 15...scared the shite out of me! Swimming through a pond and came out the other side and my mare went in up to her chest in mucky mud! She floundered a bit and without thinking I hopped off the side hoping to lighten the load...she was able to keep kicking herself backwards and finally broke the suction and got out by backing into the deeper water...she changed direction and paddled to a dryer pond exit. Meanwhile I was past my hips and stuck but good.
                          And that was the day I realized as much as I loved that mare and thought she loved me back...that she was definitely NOT the equine version of Lassie. She grazed for a bit ignoring my hollering, then at dinner time walked back to the barn for her supper. She never bothered telling a soul that Timmy was stuck in a mine. (or that I was stuck in the mud) Eventually the BO sent his son looking for me when they noticed Misty was eating with a bridle on and I wasn't around. Lucky for me the son noticed me as the short blob sticking up out of the back pond...unlucky for me he sent the pot head son after his second or third bong. Took him a while to figure out how to get me out.
                          Wicked creepy feeling being that deep in mud and feeling things squiggle around your legs...which turned out to be air bubbles but I was assuming were Mud Piranhas or something else sinister.

                          I had a dog that didn't swim...loved water and would trot right out to stand belly deep in it or even lay in the shallow parts. But if I went past him to deeper water he'd just keep walking and s-l-o-w-l-y disappear under the water.
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                          Hold onto the bridle!
                          Jump in the line!
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                          • #14
                            LOL, that reminds me of my last dog, flat coated retriever/border collie mix - out on the trail with the horse, the dog would run ahead and find a puddle and lay down in it and wait for the horse to catch up. But she would lay straight down, not on her side. So when we came up to the puddle, looked like it was reallllly deep, like the dog was standing in the water, barely the dogs head sticking up, the horse would step in and be fooled, almost fall, cause it was only about 4 inches deep but that dog could flatten herself down til her back was covered in water. Wierd.
                            Airborne? Oh. Yes, he can take a joke. Once. After that, the joke's on you.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AnotherRound View Post
                              LOL, that reminds me of my last dog, flat coated retriever/border collie mix - out on the trail with the horse, the dog would run ahead and find a puddle and lay down in it and wait for the horse to catch up. But she would lay straight down, not on her side. So when we came up to the puddle, looked like it was reallllly deep, like the dog was standing in the water, barely the dogs head sticking up, the horse would step in and be fooled, almost fall, cause it was only about 4 inches deep but that dog could flatten herself down til her back was covered in water. Wierd.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by MistyBlue View Post
                                And that was the day I realized as much as I loved that mare and thought she loved me back...that she was definitely NOT the equine version of Lassie. She grazed for a bit ignoring my hollering, then at dinner time walked back to the barn for her supper. She never bothered telling a soul that Timmy was stuck in a mine. (or that I was stuck in the mud) Eventually the BO sent his son looking for me when they noticed Misty was eating with a bridle on and I wasn't around. Lucky for me the son noticed me as the short blob sticking up out of the back pond...unlucky for me he sent the pot head son after his second or third bong. Took him a while to figure out how to get me out.
                                Wicked creepy feeling being that deep in mud and feeling things squiggle around your legs...which turned out to be air bubbles but I was assuming were Mud Piranhas or something else sinister.
                                I'm sure it was very frightening while it was happening, but what an image the whole scenario makes. I had to laugh! Glad everything turned out ok and you, despite your non-Lassie, abandoner of a mare, were rescued!!

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                                • #17
                                  Chincoteague ponies swimming

                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAKB0md5B84

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                                  • #18
                                    Sandra Day O'Connor, in her autobiography, tells the story of a mare belonging to, I believe, her brother, who sadly drowned because she couldn't swim. So I guess not all of 'em can. And when you find out they can't, it's a bit late to do anything about it I reckon.
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                                    • #19
                                      Snopes says: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...that-cant-swim
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                                      • #20
                                        No.

                                        Some know how to swim, while others do not, or do a very poor job of it. They also may have a "unique" style of swimming which can sure grab your attention the first time out! You keep thinking, " Are they going to swim or drown?? She isn't moving her legs or floating up!"

                                        We had a lake we could take the horses into, swam them and ourselves fairly often, so we learned about styles. Had one who pretended she was a Hippo. Went along with everything under the water except eyes and ears, surfacing to take a exhale, get a breath, sank back under the water until the next exhale, which could be a LONG time comeing!! Another believed that LOTS of motion kept him from drowning, so he threshed his legs rapidly while in the water, not touching bottom. A new horse showed us the "Seahorse Style" when introduced to water. She went in well, then tried to walk on hind legs when it got deep. She somehow stayed vertical, swimming along with head and neck above the water, hind end dropped way down. REALLY hard to stay on while laughing hard. Also harder to steer with no seating. There were even a couple who swam in a 'normal" fashion, head up, legs stroking, body horizontal so rider seat was just barely under water.

                                        I would be very careful when introducing a horse to water, sometimes the "natural instinct to swim" just is not there. We have pulled a couple back to where their feet touched ground, when they didn't float up or even try stroking. We tried again, and finally got them going, but had precautions in place. These were kid horses, had lots of weird stuff we did with them, so not overly reactionary in the water. Horses who are less exposed to kid stuff, might have more problems with deep water and figuring out swimming. Be prepared for problems if you have never done water with these horses!

                                        Two horses we got later from the Great Plains of Canada, had never seen water deep enough to swim or running water. THEY were scared silly, but went in anyway when asked to go across the shallow water. Only knee high on them, but they were VELCROED together the whole time in the water. They also drank about 15 gallons while in there, used to tanking up at waterholes! We ended up crossing the creek a bunch of times, so horses relaxed and got confident, even when the canoers went by us! Much improved when we left the trail camp that weekend, never had any water crossing problems with them again, alone or together.

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