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  • #21
    Originally posted by bludejavu View Post
    The only ones that I ever had serious problems with are the neighbor's pure blood pitt bulls...They weren't a mix and there was no question that they were pitts.
    Actually, at this time, there's not really a way to determine just by looks alone a purebred pit bull b/c they are so similar to American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and Staffordshire Terriers in looks. They are still more of a "type" at this point, but there are reputable breeders who are trying to turn them into an actual breed. Kind of like a TB mare crossed with any old Draft stallion doesn't produce a "purebred" Warmblood.
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    • #22
      CHOOOOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA!


      "ALL ABOARD! LAST STOP - CRAZY TOWN"

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      • #23
        http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

        Of the dozens of people to whom I've sent this link, ONE has succeeded in identifying the pit bull... and that's because she owns one.

        Just for good measure, here's another:
        http://www.pbrc.net/poppysplace/game...itbull_v4.html

        Countless pits have been used as baitdogs in the ring because they are too kind, too docile to even fight back when a fighting dog is tearing away their flesh - and these dogs, when successfully taken from these hellholes, look to their rescuers with such hope and devotion. These are not 'born bad', they are not evil merely because of their breed. The fact that this sort of pit bull even exists flies in the face of the claim that these dogs are bad.

        I'm sorry, but the facts don't support the notion of bad breeds.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Parysa View Post
          Actually, at this time, there's not really a way to determine just by looks alone a purebred pit bull b/c they are so similar to American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and Staffordshire Terriers in looks. They are still more of a "type" at this point, but there are reputable breeders who are trying to turn them into an actual breed. Kind of like a TB mare crossed with any old Draft stallion doesn't produce a "purebred" Warmblood.
          The neighbor who owned the dogs is well known by the pound folks here. The neighbor said they're pit bulls and the pound said they're pit bulls. That was good enough corroboration for me .
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          • #25
            Originally posted by RHdobes563 View Post
            The worst horse-aggressive dogs in our area have been 1) a Golden Retriever, 2) a mutt (NO pitbull in his genetic background), and 3) a Jack Russell Terrier.

            The first was taken behind a barn and shot by his owner when he (the dog) decided to harass children on bicycles, the second had to be chased back into his yard constantly by riders (he pretty much ignored his owners who let him run loose), and the third was hit and killed by a car (also allowed to run loose).
            my freinds horse was bit on the nose by a roaming dog a few months ago... it was a mutt, mostly some lab, so many people want to lable pitts as bad dogs and ANY DOG in the wrong hands can be an agressive dog, and that some dog in a diffrent enviroment can be the sweetest dog!! its the owner that makes the dog!

            working at a vets office some of the sweetest dogs we would see were pitts or pitt mixes, and the happiest, we had one that would come in for a nail trim and all he wanted to do was roll over get his belly scratched and give you kisses, we would have to muzzel just so we could see his nails with out a toung in the face!!! lol he was the sweetest dog and so happy to be there
            !! lol were some of the most agressive dogs are what people would thing be a low mant. or easy breed ect or faimly dogs, when never in my lif would i put some of those dogs in room witha child!

            Pitts and Dobermans ect can me some of the nicest sweetest happist dogs, its a shame they have gotten a bad name b/c of bad owners!
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            • #26
              Originally posted by bludejavu View Post
              The neighbor who owned the dogs is well known by the pound folks here. The neighbor said they're pit bulls and the pound said they're pit bulls. That was good enough corroboration for me .
              Take a look at the first site Paragon posted. I've been around Pits for quite awhile now and I couldn't tell which one it is and never would have picked the one that was it! Most people wouldn't know a Pit Bull if it did bite them. However, that's not to say that those dogs aren't the type or that they're not mean. Just trying to clear up a common misconception.
              That said, any dog, be it Pit Bull, Lab, GSD, Chow, Afghan Hound, or a Chihuahua that puts you, your family, your employees, your guests, or your animals in danger is not to be tolerated ever.
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              • #27
                As an owner of a pit/hound mix rescued from a pound, I will say that yes pit types can be wonderful. At the same time I never allow my dog outside my home without supervision. For his safety and that of others. I know of many breeds that are more of a danger, Dalmatians, herding breeds, and chows.
                ( or worse chow/pit.. I had to tech one at a shot clinic, for an idiot owner who had been attacked by its litter mate!....EVIL)
                In the end ANY dog no matter what the breed or size can be dangerous.
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                • #28
                  And just to add, animal and pound folks, in my experience aren't the most savy in breed identification. Over 7 years ago (my now deceased) Registered Amstaff dug under her dog run and got loose. I looked all over for her and even called the Humane Society to see if she got picked up. Finally 4 days later, I go to another neighbors house, some distance away. She was at their house a day earlier and picked up by animal control. I went down to the shelter and there she was. They had her labeled as a boxer mix, because thats what the animal control guy thought she was. Now mind you she was a Very light tan and white dog, no resemblance to a boxer in my opinion.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Coup De Des View Post
                    CHOOOOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

                    CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA!


                    "ALL ABOARD! LAST STOP - CRAZY TOWN"
                    Exactly. As much as this should not turn into a dog breed bashing thread, it shouldn't be to defend it either. The OP gave no opinion about dog breeds, she simply stated the report. Can't we see past which kind of dog did it and focus on the fact a mini foal was mauled? To heck with what breed the dog was. That's for another forum.

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                    • #30
                      I'm not into any specific breed as a pit across the street (always kept on a chain) got loose and injured one of my boarder's horses. The pit who lives next door is always loose (he could dig his way to China in a heartbeat) and has never touched the horses. The difference? The first had no training whatsoever. While he was okay with people, his manners were awful. Petey, next door, has been through tons of obedience classes and behaves like all the other dogs.

                      I'm not against Chows but had two that were running my horses a few years back. When my Border Collie came, she ran them out of the pasture for good. The chows eventually wound up biting for the last time (they had 15 between the two of them...must know someone at Animal Control) and were put down. Everyone in the neighborhood avoided them. The other two Chows who lived on the other side of the street were friendly and well-mannered, sitting just inside their invisible fence waiting for someone to come and pet them.

                      I think it has more to do with the individual manners of the dog. A responsible owner should put lots of training into their dog(s), whatever the breed, which gives the dog a sense of responsibility. When Petey first started to run after the horses, I yelled out a sharp "No!". He stopped in his tracks and slunk back to the fence.

                      My worst stray dog? A beagle who ran the horses for an hour before finally getting kicked by my head mare. Animal Control watched him for nearly a 1/2 hour, not being able to get in a shot for fear of hitting one of the horses. When he finally caught the beagle, it made six attempts to bite him, even drugged up. Dogs are a reflection of the care of the owner. Good owners make good dogs.

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                      • #31
                        The only problems I have had with dogs in a barn setting are Jack Russells, personally I think little dogs do much much more damage then the larger dogs that people are more afraid of, I have had horses chased, kids chased, cats chased, anything that moves chased, and if it moves slow enough, occasionally, they latch on. When I was younger I was bitten by a jack and I had to slam it into a wall to make it let go of me. I have owned shepherds, labs, and have friends with pits and other large mixes and never a problem...not one!

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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by Paragon View Post
                          http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

                          Of the dozens of people to whom I've sent this link, ONE has succeeded in identifying the pit bull... and that's because she owns one.
                          Well that's not a good test!!! How many of the breeds listed on your page are found in ANY good number here in the US (with the exception of the boxer, lab, Rotties and maybe the Ridgies)? Fact is that MANY of the breeds that you listed are rare here in the states and not likely to be found in any populous numbers. Not only that but do you really want your breed associated with dogs like the Presa??

                          I've known good and bad examples from EVERY popular breed. Taking the stand of "all pitties are fabulous" is just as damaging as heading the other way. It's about responsible pet ownership and knowing your breed.

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                          • #33
                            More jingles for the mini here too!

                            On the dog topic, I think it's a shame when breeds get classified as "dangerous" because of people's perceptions. My husband's Dobie, while he is protective of the house, he would rather sit in your lap if he could fit. But because of his breed, people are very afraid of him. We also fostered a Pit rescued from Katrina, and even after all she had been through was one of the sweetest and most gentle dogs I know. Any dog can become a threat when they are allowed to travel free in a pack. There is a group of Husky mixes in our neighborhood that have been known to attack other animals because they just wander around together.

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                            • #34
                              My 28 inch Mini in Frederick isn't feeling too safe today
                              Good thing she has her big brothers to defend her!

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                              • #35
                                I'm with you jilltx. I have known docile and aggressive members of a lot of breeds, but the deal with pit bulls is that

                                a) they appeal to knuckle dragging yahoos (I'm not talking about the responsible people who have posted here).
                                b) they have an extraordinary pounds per square inch jaw strength.

                                I have read somewhere that statistically, the "bitingest" dog in N.America is the cocker spaniel. However, the damage caused by a cocker just cannot compare.

                                The woman that washes and repairs my horse blankets runs a pit bull rescue. I have met many sweet pit bulls at her house. However, I confess if I met her dogs running loose I would be concerned. I expect if I saw a couple of cocker spaniels running loose the odds they would bite me are probably the same as the pit bulls. But the results?? Quite a bit different.

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                                • #36
                                  I think a dog that does this should be put down. Its a liability for everyone to have a dog like this around.

                                  I am not prejudiced against a pit bull, but once these dogs learn this they can be very dangerous. My Boxer got attacked by a pit bull female once while we were walking by a house. We could not get the dog off of her. Finally we threw water on the dog, and it released, but it was locked on there so tight.

                                  The shame about this incident too, is that foal will probably be a dog hater now when it gets older. That in itself is dangerous. I was at a barn with a dog hating horse. It would kill a dog if it got in the field. Not a good thing.

                                  I hope it doesn't remember this incident in this way and become vicious itself towards dogs.
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                                  • #37
                                    I was in school for veterinary technology and when we took our behaviour class I have to say, I was shocked when we were told that the number 1 breed referred for behaviour issues was COCKER SPANIELS!
                                    It is unfair to blame one breed for attacks..you also have to keep un mind just how popular they became and how many were bred..so there were alot more of them. It is how they are trained...but ANY dog can be TRIGGERED to bite or attack. Unfortunately..small children get it the most becasue the trigger the dog..no dog just walks up and decides to attack..they are triggerded..children should never be allowed to play rough with the family dog..sooner or later the dog will perceive the child as a threat and attack.
                                    I had a greman sheppard growing up that I adored and trusted completely..she bite me one day because I got rough and did something she saw as a threat. it can happen to anyone at any time. I'm not saying its the childs fault by any means..just that the dog has to be triggered by something to attack.
                                    Could be in this case that the foal felt threatened by the dog in the field..possibly other horses got protective and became aggressive to the dog..the dog would respond and unfortunately..went after the weakest herd member..Now by no means should that dog have been in the field..that is the OWNERS fault
                                    My boyfriend has a pit bull cross and is the sweetes dog you could ever ask for...I'd trust him before I completely trusted my old border collie..and I lived my dog but if he felt threatened.. he would get defensive and bare his teeth,snap and growl at you...
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                                    • #38
                                      I think a dog that does this should be put down. Its a liability for everyone to have a dog like this around.
                                      I agree. I don't care if its Lassie - I got a rifle, a shovel and 144 acres........

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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by Mozart View Post
                                        b) they have an extraordinary pounds per square inch jaw strength.
                                        No, no, no. Not true at all--please do not pass around misinformation which is used to encourage BSL when you have no proof. And you can't have any, because there is none. Of the ONE "scientific trial" conducted on the issue, here are the results:

                                        Dr. Brady Barr of National Geographic (Dangerous Encounters: Bite Force, 8pm est 8/18/2005) – Dr. Barr measured bite forces of many different creatures. Domestic dogs were included in the test.

                                        Here are the results of all of the animals tested:
                                        • Humans: 120 pounds of bite pressure
                                        • Domestic dogs: 320 LBS of pressure on avg. A German Shepard, American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) and Rottweiler were tested using a bite sleeve equipped with a specialized computer instrument. The APBT had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested.
                                        • Wild dogs: 310 lbs
                                        • Lions: 600 lbs
                                        • White sharks: 600 lbs
                                        • Hyenas: 1000 lbs
                                        • Snapping turtles: 1000 lbs
                                        • Crocodiles: 2500 lbs
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                                        • #40
                                          Sorry but a pit bull or pit bull "cross" is more likely than a Golden Retriever to attack someone or something and do serious injury. Period. Maybe someone knows a dangerous Golden but the numbers don't lie. I've met some nice pits. But I would never own one as I don't want the liability. Saying that is not pit bashing at all IMHO.

                                          What appeared to be a pit cross savagely attacked 2 of my dogs on 2 different occassions in my yard. He would have killed my Golden Retriever if it hadn't been for my husband's employees seeing it and beating the dog off. The dog is now buried.

                                          Poor mini...

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