• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Your forum sign-up is not complete, you must add an Alias/Screen Name before you can post to the forums. Your name and email is not exposed to Forum users, only the Screen Name is accessible or viewable. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.
    Complete Profile
  • Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.
    Complete Profile

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 2/8/18)
See more
See less

Boycotting PetCo

Collapse
X
Collapse
  • Page of 3
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous 1 2 3 Next
  • #41
    In other news, I just farted. It smells like peppermints.
    Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

    Comment

    • #42
      Originally posted by LexInVA View Post
      In other news, I just farted. It smells like peppermints.

      Mine smell like roses.
      Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
      Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
      -Rudyard Kipling

      Comment

      • #43
        Originally posted by JSwan View Post
        Mine smell like roses.
        It's better than peanut butter, no?
        Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

        Comment

        • #44
          Originally posted by Bluey View Post
          Around here, the small pet stores are the ones that are overpriced and sell backyard, sometimes we wonder if puppy mill puppies.

          I don't know about Petco, but our Petsmart doesn't sell puppies, works with our local rescues and every time we can and every Saturday and Sunday we take adoptable dogs by there for the public to look at them and they have a cat room we keep cats for adoption there all the time.
          They have really been nice to work with all these years, so most people in the small animal world around here sure don't have much bad to say about them.
          Same here with our PetCo - they have a little nook near the front that has adoptable cats all the time (it's run by one of the local rescue groups, though I forget which one, and there's almost always someone there handling the cats, cleaning the cages, etc.) and plenty of special events where dogs and other adoptable animals can come in. (They even have rat day when the local rat rescue can bring in adoptable rats, and people can bring in pet rats for competitions and contests.)

          Also, while there is some turnover in the staff, many of them have been there for at least a couple of years now, and recognize our dogs and greet them every visit and ask questions about how things are going.

          As it happens, we don't get our dog food there - they don't carry Evo, which is what both dogs do best on - so we go to a local independent store for that. (They also don't sell animals other than some birds, which they seem to specialize in, and often have one or two cats for adoption from a local rescue.) But PetCo is quite good for us for little stuff - treats, puppy pads for traveling, leashes, etc.

          Comment

          • #45
            Originally posted by wendy View Post
            why on earth would you expect a dogncat supply store to support equine rescues? Not that I care, I only shop small locally owned dog supply stores, who actually stock nice products and sell them for fair prices.
            Exactly! PetCo is the most expensive pet supply chain store around! My vote: horses are livestock, pure and simple.
            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

            http://s1098.photobucket.com/albums/...2011%20Photos/

            Comment

            • #46
              I think horses fall into a unique category but if I had to choose it would be companion since they serve as partners and pets by most owners, they are workers and fun. How is that not companions?

              Comment

              • #47
                Originally posted by Susan P View Post
                I think horses fall into a unique category but if I had to choose it would be companion since they serve as partners and pets by most owners, they are workers and fun. How is that not companions?

                Well - I have a goat as a pet.

                Do you think I have the right to demand that all zoning, tax, and animal laws be changed just because I like to refer to him as a pet?

                Call your horse a pet if you want - I don't keep mine as companion animals. They're huge, require a tremendous amount of open space, are horrifically expensive to maintain, and require specialized housing.

                They are working animals - I keep them to ride - not to sit by me while I watch TV.

                I happen to treat mine as part of the family, the goat included. But that is MY business - not the governments. Nor anyone else's for that matter.
                Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                -Rudyard Kipling

                Comment

                • #48
                  How about chickens? What if I have pet chickens? That's a companion animal.

                  Horses are livestock. They don't live in the house and 99% of the people who own them have them to ride, drive, race, or some other working purpose, even if it's just hacking out on trails.
                  Author Page
                  Like Omens In the Night on Facebook
                  Steampunk Sweethearts

                  Comment

                  • #49
                    Originally posted by RedTahoe View Post
                    Iams is not really all that good anymore; however, the Wal-Mart at which we shop sells Newmans Own Organic Advanced Formula which compares to some of the pricier foods sold at specialty stores.
                    no, i agree - but if you are trying to avoid grains and most especially gluten when feeding cats (a very good idea), your less expensive options are few and far between. iams is at least helpful in that one type of canned food, so i tend to recommend that when people stare in horror at the price of the more upscale grain free brands!
                    Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

                    Comment

                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Ambrey View Post
                      Deciding to focus their funding $$ on the animals they sell products for does not, in any way shape or form, indicate in any way that they are "OK with horse slaughter."
                      Agreed! I really feel this has been blown all out of proportion.
                      How the heck did a company that's primary focus is small pets suddenly become the target of boycott because they decided to direct their (almost certainly dwindling) donations toward groups that serve the needs of those small animals? I still have not seen anything that makes me think Petco has done anything remotely 'wrong' by doing that!

                      It is a shame that equine groups will no longer be eligible for that money, but I bet the company had to set some limits. It might be better to look at it this way: the horse folks were fortunate to have gotten money in the past!
                      Y'all ain't right!

                      Comment

                      • #51
                        Originally posted by Ambrey View Post
                        What an excellent illustration of the "slippery slope" fallacy!

                        Deciding to focus their funding $$ on the animals they sell products for does not, in any way shape or form, indicate in any way that they are "OK with horse slaughter."
                        No, but the way they worded it does.
                        Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

                        http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

                        Comment

                        • #52
                          Petco-Wallyworld

                          hehehe ok, I had to put in another two cents worth just to be fair. I dont blame people for not wanting horses called companion animals. At least legally. Some may do the job of a companion while others are strictly for riding or breeding. I just happen to have lots of rideon lawnmowers, weedeaters, babysitters etc etc.

                          Petco does not sell horse feed and so I dont ask them to support my equine rescue and dont blame them for not. They do support rescue. I love seeing the dogs and cats from the shelters in there instead of the puppies from the mill. And Petsmart is much the same but I do know, it varies from store to store. Do I shop at these stores, yup, Paris knows they have better quality bully toys. The simply do.

                          I shop at a high end dog and pet food store close to Bird4416 in Canton cause not only do they always give me a heck of a deal, they always send me out the door with supplements and samples for my friends. And.........................they always donate to my horses as well. TC Country, best animal and equine store I have EVER been in.

                          But Wallysworld. Say what you will but the Wally'world in my community absolutely supports me. they give me all the broken bags of pet food for the animals at the shelter and............. they donate $1000 dollars a year to my hay fund and $1000 dollars for me to send two underpriveleged kids to horse came each summer.

                          Two years ago, the manager here called me at xmas time. He said he still had $740 dollars in the kitty and it was mine if I could write a letter telling him what I could use it for. Merry xmas.

                          Every Wally;s world has a set amount for nonprofits in there community. Its a very very simple form and all they ask for is a thankyou. All rescues, make note of this please.
                          Our horses are not seen as the old and disabled they may have become, but rather as the mighty steeds they once believed themselves to be.

                          Sunkissed Acres Rescue and Retirement

                          Comment

                          • #53
                            the thing is, tax wise they are considered companion animals- no write off... and on the other hand they want them to be livestock [but still you get no write off].

                            I love how the government gets it both ways.
                            Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

                            http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

                            Comment

                            • #54
                              Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post
                              the thing is, tax wise they are considered companion animals- no write off... and on the other hand they want them to be livestock [but still you get no write off].

                              I love how the government gets it both ways.
                              Are you sure?
                              All our horses have always been considered livestock for tax purposes.

                              Maybe you are thinking of business or hobby designation, that is different, but not companions or livestock?

                              Comment

                              • #55
                                Originally posted by danceronice View Post
                                How about chickens? What if I have pet chickens?
                                Chicken no make good pet!

                                Comment

                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post
                                  the thing is, tax wise they are considered companion animals- no write off... and on the other hand they want them to be livestock [but still you get no write off].

                                  I love how the government gets it both ways.
                                  That's the first I've heard about that. If your horses are used for business purposes you can "write them off" just like you can if you have a dog breeding business.

                                  Business versus personal use - not pet versus livestock.

                                  I'd have to look into tax issues associated with things like search and rescue but if it's similar to the volunteer work I do some expenses associated with volunteer work can be deducted - I would think that at least some horse expenses associated with search and rescue could be.... mileage certainly - but special equipment perhaps.... I'd have to look it up though.

                                  Where horses are considered pets by local government, the horses are usually taxed and the land is no longer eligible for land use valuation. Often, exemptions are giving for a breeding operation and all that does is encourage people to breed horses so they can obtain land use on their land. Otherwise - the taxes would drive them out.

                                  I don't think there is anything good about changing the legal definition to pets. It would destroy the horse industry, and it certainly has not done dogs and cats any favors. They are killed by the millions each year.
                                  Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                                  Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                                  -Rudyard Kipling

                                  Comment

                                  • #57
                                    I want a pet goat!!!!!!!!!
                                    I would buy him food at the feed store and let him eat grass and weeds. I can have livestock, sort of, if I can place his house just right on my lot to meet the requirements for setbacks.
                                    I will name him Herbert and knit him sweaters.

                                    Comment

                                    • #58
                                      Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                                      Are you sure?
                                      All our horses have always been considered livestock for tax purposes.

                                      Maybe you are thinking of business or hobby designation, that is different, but not companions or livestock?
                                      I guess that is what I am thinking. In my area boarding horses does not get you an AG designation- you have to be breeding them to get that. It's frustrating because we have developers cutting up large farms into 5 acre McFarms. Open space is disappearing, and other than having dairy, or growing a crop the options for keeping those spaces open and green are slim.
                                      Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

                                      http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

                                      Comment

                                      • #59
                                        Originally posted by JSwan View Post

                                        Where horses are considered pets by local government, the horses are usually taxed and the land is no longer eligible for land use valuation. Often, exemptions are giving for a breeding operation and all that does is encourage people to breed horses so they can obtain land use on their land. Otherwise - the taxes would drive them out.
                                        See my explanation, this is exactly what I meant.

                                        Originally posted by JSwan View Post
                                        I don't think there is anything good about changing the legal definition to pets. It would destroy the horse industry, and it certainly has not done dogs and cats any favors. They are killed by the millions each year.
                                        The difference [for me] is that those small animals are euthanized in a more humane manner.
                                        Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

                                        http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

                                        Comment

                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by Coreene View Post
                                          Chicken no make good pet!
                                          There was a guy in Miami recently who was given a notice to find a new place for his rooster, "Clucky." The judge said that the neighbors in the apartment building were complaining of "Clucky" crowing at all hours of the night.

                                          Meanwhile, I was thinking, what apartment building allows "roosters" in their pet policy to begin with? The guy wasn't hiding him or anything.

                                          Comment

                                          Previous 1 2 3 Next
                                          Working...
                                          X