We have two tow vehicles. During the summer and in nice weather I prefer the Suburban (3/4 ton, 4wd, 454 V8). During the winter I like the pickup (5/4 ton 1008 CUCV) as it's more stable and the rear end doesn't tend to skate around in snow and ice (not that I tow much in those conditions anyway!).
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This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.
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Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:
Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.
Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.
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I have a bumper pull with dressing room. Our horses are 1100 and 950 pounds. I tow with a Toyota Tundra 4WD.
I LOVE my truck. Without the trailer it gets 16 mpg. It will go through anything in terms of snow, slush, mud etc. I've had it since 2001 and I've never gone into the engine. I've put new shocks on it (at 100,000 miles). Otherwise, just routine maintenance.
The Tundra now comes in a larger engine version which approaches a 3/4 ton. Mine is a scant half ton. If I trailered a LOT, in tough terrain (mountains), I'd want more truck. But for my uses, which means 2 hours maximum, freeway/good roads, not much in the way of steep hills, the Tundra is perfect. We mostly use it to go to lessons (15 miles) and schooling shows (local), with occasional jaunts as much as 100 miles away. It is stable, solid, responsive, and even in fairly bad weather no problem with the trailer. If the weather is really bad we don't go.
I've got 112,000 miles on it and expect to take it to 200,000 before getting serious about replacing it.
So it really depends what your use is, and what your local terrain is. And how much you care if the guy behind you is annoyed
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I towed a 2horse extra tall w/dressing room all alum Sooner trailer with a 2000 (1st year they sold 'em) Tundra. I had a weight distribution hitch on it, and mostly hauled one 17H warmblood in it - over Cascade mt passes and all over. It was a great truck - never had any trouble hauling/stopping. In 2007 I did upgrade to the 5.7 liter, long bed. Still have the weight distribution hitch and use it on long hauls with two horses or over the mountains, but on short hauls - 30 miles or so - I don't bother. The new Tundra came with tow package. Love my Tundra.Originally posted by Pat Thrasher View PostI have a bumper pull with dressing room. Our horses are 1100 and 950 pounds. I tow with a Toyota Tundra 4WD.
I LOVE my truck. Without the trailer it gets 16 mpg. It will go through anything in terms of snow, slush, mud etc. I've had it since 2001 and I've never gone into the engine. I've put new shocks on it (at 100,000 miles). Otherwise, just routine maintenance.
The Tundra now comes in a larger engine version which approaches a 3/4 ton. Mine is a scant half ton. If I trailered a LOT, in tough terrain (mountains), I'd want more truck. But for my uses, which means 2 hours maximum, freeway/good roads, not much in the way of steep hills, the Tundra is perfect. We mostly use it to go to lessons (15 miles) and schooling shows (local), with occasional jaunts as much as 100 miles away. It is stable, solid, responsive, and even in fairly bad weather no problem with the trailer. If the weather is really bad we don't go.
I've got 112,000 miles on it and expect to take it to 200,000 before getting serious about replacing it.
So it really depends what your use is, and what your local terrain is. And how much you care if the guy behind you is annoyed
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Another Tundra here. 2008 5.7L. I've pulled a regular two horse BP no problem. Now I'm pulling a 2H BP with Dressing Rm and Side Ramp. I'm considering weight distribution for this set-up.Originally posted by MEP View PostI towed a 2horse extra tall w/dressing room all alum Sooner trailer with a 2000 (1st year they sold 'em) Tundra. I had a weight distribution hitch on it, and mostly hauled one 17H warmblood in it - over Cascade mt passes and all over. It was a great truck - never had any trouble hauling/stopping. In 2007 I did upgrade to the 5.7 liter, long bed. Still have the weight distribution hitch and use it on long hauls with two horses or over the mountains, but on short hauls - 30 miles or so - I don't bother. The new Tundra came with tow package. Love my Tundra.
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I don't have a truck or trailer but always looking into it and trying to keep up with what it new so when I have the $ I will know what I want to get.
I think most 2h BP trailers would do fine with a properly equipped 1/2 ton truck. I have been back and forth between the F150 and F250 but the new F-150 looks pretty good. For me it would come down to how it is equipped for the price and if it would have to be my commuting vehicle as well.
Check out the videos they have on towing and hauling. http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/
I have a 97 Jeep GC and I would not tow anything alive behind it! I do tow dirt, hay, feed and lumber and based on how that feels I would never tow a shifting heavy live load!No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
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