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  • Original Poster

    #61
    it's luke and my trainer is female. i want to be nice and all but i still don't really quite understand why i need to spend a lot of $$$$$ for these boots for luke. i love him and all and i am thrilled leasing him but that is a lot of $$. i will e-mail or ask my trainer about it.



    ihb
    iheartbuea

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    • #62
      This IS an odd situation, becausae it's a therapeutic riding barn, and the horse iheartbeaue is going to half-lease is only used for leadline the rest of the time. So it DOES make sense that there is only one saddle to fi t him, and it's an unusual style. At least they pay attention to fit!!! For whatever ELSE (i.e., not with i.h.b.) the horse does, he doesn't appear to need a regular saddle. And compared to being led around at a walk, lessons at a walk/trot ARE advanced, so boots MAY be indicated for that work ONLY. A horse should be outfitted correctly by the barn for any lessons he's used in, though, and I assume that you, i.h.b., ARE taking lessons on this horse. But if you are happy with everything else, i.h.b., don't worry about this.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by iheartbuea View Post
        it's luke and my trainer is female. i want to be nice and all but i still don't really quite understand why i need to spend a lot of $$$$$ for these boots for luke. i love him and all and i am thrilled leasing him but that is a lot of $$. i will e-mail or ask my trainer about it.



        ihb
        Just ask her to explain to you again why he needs them, and perhaps link you to exactly what she's talking about. If she tells you you need SMB boots, ask her why splint boots aren't good enough. If she tells you that the SMB boots (or something similarly expensive) are necessary, than you need to do some hard thinking and anyalyze whether this is really as good a situation as you think it is.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by iheartbuea View Post
          luke has took a shoe off in the crossties so my trainer is trying to prevent that
          ihb
          Okay, this is probably going to sound really dumb, but how did he take a shoe off in the crossties??? Was he not being watched? Is he not trained to stand in crossties?
          Is this a "normal" thing? I've never heard of a horse taking a shoe off in crossties before. And how would SMBs help prevent that??? It doesn't look like they provide any protection for the hooves. Either I'm confused or your trainer is really full of $%*^
          And I agree with the other posters that it's ridiculous to say that you need SMBs for w/t/c.
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          • #65
            IHB,

            Edited to have realised the train wreck this has become...my opinion is now irrelevant.

            Good luck IHB
            Last edited by AstonMartin; Sep. 19, 2006, 07:06 PM.
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            • #66
              I read this thread with interest because I really wanted to know what the heck a leg warmer is . Then my interest became the human interest aspect...just plain curious about what people would say. It is an odd set of problems for sure. iheartbuea is in a really strange position here! I just wanted to say to this wonderful young woman- You are a sweetie! I think you have gotten some really good advice here. You have handled this beautifully and certainly earned my respect! I am certain the maturity and openmindedness you've shown here will help you talk to your trainer and decide what's best for you and Luke. I for one wish I had a barn full of kids like iheartbuea.
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              • #67
                parysa, I think the shoe issue was in response to the bell boot question, not the splint boot question.

                As far as taking shoes off in the crossties, I am forever amazed at the way horses can get their shoes off. my friend had one that took them off in his stall.
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                • #68
                  This does sound like a sketchy situation...However, remember the info posted by IHB is what her trainer told her non-horsey mom who in turn told IHB and I wonder if something got lost in translation (remember the original post referred to "legwarmers").

                  At any rate, IHB, I have an excess of boots here of various types, and a couple pairs that are in the "free" box at my barn. If you'd like me to send you a pair, send me a PT
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Midge View Post
                    parysa, I think the shoe issue was in response to the bell boot question, not the splint boot question.

                    As far as taking shoes off in the crossties, I am forever amazed at the way horses can get their shoes off. my friend had one that took them off in his stall.
                    I had a horse this summer, Bobo, who had front bell boots on and clips on his shoes to help keep them on. My friend watched him from a far distance one day when Bobo was out in his field. She later reported she knew how he kept pulling his shoes off.

                    The farm where I kept Bobo also has cattle so they have some areas of wire/wood plank fencing. Bobo had learned to use his mouth to flip his bell boots up and then he would look all around him, to the left to the right. Then he would put his foot on the wire part of the fencing and get it under his shoe from the bottom and he would rip his shoes off this way.

                    I would always know it happened before catching him since he could never figure out how to flip the bell boot back down. I was so angry every time before I heard the story but then every time after my friend told me how he did this, I would just start laughing. Horses can be so smart and clever sometimes!
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                    • #70
                      I'm another one that started reading this thread to find out what 'leg warmers' for horses are! IHB, you seem very sweet and I'm a big fan of young horse crazy girls. I started out as one of those myself.

                      It sounds like you're in the middle of a big learning curve here. There are a few serious questions that haven't been answered. How much does this horse stumble? Is Luke stumbling while you ride him? Has your trainer given you an explanation of why the horse has these problems? If you have the relationship with your trainer that you say you have, then start asking the tougher questions. She should be willing to educate you. If the horse is simply lacking conditioning, splint boots should be all that you need. If it's a bigger physical problem, the horse may need a vet or a new farrier.

                      Support boots were orignally designed to aid horses recovering from injuries (whether or not they work is another question). Then they became popular to prevent injuries. Horses in REAL hard work (i.e. jumpers, xc eventers, dressage, cutting, reining, polo, endurance) don't usually wear this type of boot.

                      Setting aside the question of $$$ for the moment, I'd ask your trainer why she feels the horse needs this much support to do light work. There is simply no way a sound horse should need expensive support boots to do w/t/c work.
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                      • #71
                        How about polo wraps or just cheapy velcro splint boots? You can get leg protection for under $20...and they even come in purple .
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                        • #72
                          Remember that not all lesson horses are perfect, some do have flaws, but I do agree that the trainer should provide for them. I rode school horses that tripped, he was my favorite, as opposed to the one that took two people to tack up, the one that bit HARD, the one that would stop dirty at the canter to try to get you off, and the one that kicked the wall if you squeezed him to go. Don't look at me, that's what they had.

                          Always feel free to question your trainer, that's what she's there for! If you do need SMBs and are going to buy them, I have 5 sets and don't use them often, I'd be willing to part with a pair. I have switched to polos for my mare and regular old splint boots for my gelding.
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                          • #73
                            I think you've linked us to your barn before, and it looked like a very fancy facility. Perhaps there was something lost in translation.

                            Perhaps your trainer was giving you things you could buy since you seem to be so enthusiastic about buying things for luke.
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                            • #74
                              I opened this to see what legwarmers were.

                              Does this really warrant a pile on? Sport boots could mean splint boots. Buy an inexpensive pair of boots and you can use them on your next horse too. If you have a good relationship with the instructor and you are enjoying the horse, I wouldn't make a big deal about it.

                              No one here knows the arrangement you have with your instructor. Perhaps there are extra things the instructor does, too.

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                              • #75
                                Hi IBH

                                So, email the trainer and ask her exactly what kind of boots or wraps she wants luke to have and why? Ask how much she thinks this item will cost. Ask where you get such an item for the best price? If the amount is too much for you, tell her in a nice way OR if you feel you shouldn't have to buy the item tell her.

                                You can always say, I'm sorry but I don't have the money to spend on things right now OR After talking with my Mom, we decided I can't buy things that might not fit the next horse I lease.

                                I would love to see pictures of you riding luke and your barn...I missed that.

                                SORRY for spelling your name wrong in the title IHB!
                                Last edited by Hazelnut; Sep. 19, 2006, 06:56 AM. Reason: spelling

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                                • #76
                                  I am not trying to be mean here but this is what I noticed...You ask a lot of questions about what your trainer says. Ask her!!! Are you embarrassed? She should understand that you are new to riding and will need better clarification. If she makes fun of you for asking these questions, or refuses to answer, then maybe you should ride elsewear. She's your trainer, you pay her to teach you. This includes riding and in the barn.
                                  Most of the time we don't understand your questions, and end up having a hard time helping you out. It's frustrating for both sides. People want to help you but its tough. Maybe once you trainer explains it to you, your friends on here could explain it further if you still need help.

                                  Just a friendly suggestion!! I having been riding my entire life and I STILL have soooooo many questions. You think it's tough asking your trainer stuff? Try asking someone questions who rode in 5 consecutive Olympics....


                                  I also agree that the barn should supply special need items for an in-barn lease. Say you leased a show horse for an entire year, that was at your on personal barn, then you would your own tack. I When I was starting out you should have seen all the stuff I bought! That was 15 years ago and some of that stuff is still taking up space in my parents sun room!!!

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                                  • #77
                                    Horses' legs aren't meant to be WARM. They're designed so the critter is perfectly comfortable standing knee-deep in snow, 24/7. "Warming" their legs is strictly to make the human feel better, and does nothing for the horse except mess with Mother Nature. Save your money.
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                                    • #78
                                      IHB, I think you should have your parents read this thread.

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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
                                        Perhaps your trainer was giving you things you could buy since you seem to be so enthusiastic about buying things for luke.
                                        I think you might have hit it...
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                                        • #80
                                          IHB --

                                          Here's what you need to ask your trainer:

                                          1) Why does Luke need boots? (This is good to know from an educational perspective.)

                                          2) What kind of boots does he need? Can you use $15 neoprene brushing boots?

                                          3) Does she have a pair you can borrow while you lease?

                                          If the answer to #2 is Professional Choice or Woof boots, you shouldn't buy them. That's too much money for a horse you don't own. I can certainly understand wanting to buy things for the horse...trust me.

                                          I've borrowed horses and leased horses my entire life and I've probably bought something for each of them. The difference is, I know what I can buy and use again down the road. Bell boots, cheap brushing boots, saddle pads, polo wraps...no big ticket items (as in $100+). I even own three bridles which is ridiculous considering I don't have a horse. I was lucky to grow up near an infamous used tack shop (Bea Crossan's) where I could buy a beautiful $20 used Crosby bridle or a $10 pair of boots. But, I didn't buy everything at once. If I saw a good deal at a tent sale or online, I'd pick up the item then. But you have years to collect. Set yourself some limits and goals. Ask for tack shop gift certificates for the holidays or birthdays. There's no problem with having your own halter, leadrope or boots. Just don't let anyone tell you you need to buy things for THEIR horse. If you do it on your own accord that's one thing. Also, don't get caught up in the trends you hear about on the board. You'll never be able to keep up with the fanciest GPA helmet or the Antares saddle...few of us can keep up. I'm happy with my used saddle and my International helmet.

                                          I hope this helps. Trust me, I know where you're coming from and can relate fully.
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