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    Originally posted by BeastieSlave
    Evidently, NOTHING
    I was getting all excited like it was New Years!

    996
    997
    998
    999
    1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    but then Nothing. J Swan, did you get your stick thingy?
    http://lessismore17.blogspot.com/

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      Shoot - it's over 1000. I think I'm going to be sick.

      Kelly - I did the same thing on another thread about an artist whose work could have been construed as exploitative taken out of context.

      Folks were getting up in arms - speculating, accusing, etc. Know what I did? I emailed the guy - was polite, honest - and guess what. His company emailed me back, explained, showed me the work in context - it was actually quite moving.

      We were all wrong about the examples of his work cited. There was an explanation. There was context. Was it art? I don't know. But it wasn't what folks thought it was - that's for sure.

      This thread could have benefitted from such a polite and honest phone call on - page 2. Pretty boring, though.
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        Originally posted by BeastieSlave
        Maybe the thread will just self-destruct? We should be so lucky
        I've got to leave, so I think I'll miss it....

        Let's all go mess up the "Suzy's out drinking" thread! Mwahh haa haa
        I think it already self sestructed on page one!
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          Amen to that!

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            Originally posted by LessIsMore17
            you can post over 1000 but I took another look at the policy page and it's changed QUITE a bit. http://www.virginiasporthorses.com/p...f8997b45056180

            Good thinking Liz!
            Much Better.

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              Originally posted by LessIsMore17
              you can post over 1000 but I took another look at the policy page and it's changed QUITE a bit. http://www.virginiasporthorses.com/p...f8997b45056180

              Good thinking Liz!
              Now that's much better already.....

              and check out the "request counter" on the bottom right of that page. I think we created a world record for any on-line horse dealer.
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                I dont see ANY policies o n the page, only three examples (and JUST examples, mind you) of contracts. Are there amended policies listed???????
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                    Original Poster

                    Well, I tried to end the thread

                    I asked Erin to lock it, but for whatever reason she hasn't. so I guess I'll take this opportunity to restate MY (as the OP) original case

                    1. a non-refundabledeposit is unheard of, at least to me. I can't think of any type of sales-cars, real estate, etc, where this is done.

                    2. Altering Coggins papers is unethical at best, if not illegal.

                    3. Using scare tactics to keep buyers from going directly to the PMU farms isunprofressional to say the least. If she wants excusive rights to buy from or sell for these farms, she should negotiate that with the farms.

                    4. Not allowing pre-purchase vetting is, again, unheard of. I can see no way in which it benefots anyone but the seller.

                    5. I cannot see how she can claim concern for the welfare of the horses she sellson one hand while actively trying to discourage people fromcomingto seethe horses in person and pre-purchase vet exams. To do so increases the probability of someone ending up with an unsuitable horses which may very well end up being dumped.

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                      Those would be great questions for VSH to answer, simply.
                      But the facts shall remain in the Twilight Zone....hey, wasnt that a GREAT marathon over the 4th!
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                        Originally posted by A. P.
                        I asked Erin to lock it, but for whatever reason she hasn't. so I guess I'll take this opportunity to restate MY (as the OP) original case

                        1. a non-refundabledeposit is unheard of, at least to me. I can't think of any type of sales-cars, real estate, etc, where this is done.

                        2. Altering Coggins papers is unethical at best, if not illegal.

                        3. Using scare tactics to keep buyers from going directly to the PMU farms isunprofressional to say the least. If she wants excusive rights to buy from or sell for these farms, she should negotiate that with the farms.

                        4. Not allowing pre-purchase vetting is, again, unheard of. I can see no way in which it benefots anyone but the seller.

                        5. I cannot see how she can claim concern for the welfare of the horses she sellson one hand while actively trying to discourage people fromcomingto seethe horses in person and pre-purchase vet exams. To do so increases the probability of someone ending up with an unsuitable horses which may very well end up being dumped.

                        Agreed. I would add that the horses are (a) mispresented as to breed/registry (fact); and (b) overpriced for what they are (opinion).

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                          And to sum up, those policies on her web site are apprently COMPLETELY ACCURATE. No "misinterpretation" here, or "other side" to be gotten.

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                            Funniest thing...I just stumbled onto this...quite by accident.

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                              After 50-odd pages of thinking about this, it occured to me that LB is a "picture importer" executing a pyramid sales scheme. Hers is *exactly* the same business model as the GV scheme, only the draft crosses are coming from Canada rather than England/Ireland.

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                                Originally posted by ElonGrad1997
                                Funniest thing...I just stumbled onto this...quite by accident.

                                Windjammer
                                Aside for the VSH connection, I find that very amusing. A "Warmbloods only" site that doesn't know what a warmblood is. It's one of the banes of my existence that when I am helping people "horse hunt" I have to wade through ad after ad for "warmbloods" only to find that many of them are draft crosses.

                                I was doing this recently for a friend, and it was very annoying. (She finally found a nice Hanoverian P-line filly). VSH has it both ways: they say it's a draft cross, but call it a warmblood anyway. Well, they're not the only ones to do that, certainly, but that doesn't make it correct. More annoying are the ones who won't even say it's a draft cross until you pin them down on the breeding.

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                                  If you haven't checked out the site recently, policies page isn't up, but everything else is, for the most part. The sales list is also updated and no longer includes "Canadian Sporthorse" as the breed of any of them.

                                  I personally have a farm I already deal with in Canada that is a very nice family run farm if I decided I wanted to get another draftx, and the prices (with shipping) are less and their horses are VERY nice and all come halter broke with first set of shots and unaltered coggins. But, I'll stick with my OTTB's for the time being.

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                                    Originally posted by J Swan
                                    Shoot - it's over 1000. I think I'm going to be sick.
                                    Why? Because like half the posts are yours?

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                                      Actually, the first page of the website still states that they sell Canadian Sporthorses:

                                      "Virginia Sporthorses (VSH) specializes in selecting, importing, and training Canadian Sporthorses."

                                      Unfair to the people who are trying to market and promote actual *registered* Canadian Sporthorses.
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                                        I know!

                                        Originally posted by LessIsMore17
                                        WHO is the movie star horse????? Would we have seen him in a recent movie?

                                        "As our clients can tell you, there is no shortage of fox hunting propsects at VSH....VSH horses have gone on to compete in all range of disciplines....we even have a movie star!"
                                        I know, I know!!!! (waves hand in the air). Do I get a prize??? I only know because it was the first horse I looked at on the website. Here's the link:

                                        http://www.virginiasporthorses.com/p...products_id/32
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                                          Hmmmm...somehow the photo is over the copy so you can't read it........
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