I see this as no different than dollhouse/doll furniture collectors or model train collectors.... the "horse show" part is what I just don't "get". But I am a little dense at times, so I am SURE it's me! At any rate, it has to be cheaper and easier than showing the real thing, so maybe WE are the weirdos!
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Originally posted by spookhorseAnd Julie here was the live show hostess of the first model horse show I ever went to 13 years ago... so it's all her fault I'm a model horse weirdo
And yes, the hobby can be a great way for parents and kids (even grown kids) to spend time together! My guests this weekend were a mom and 25 year old daughter. Mom doesn't show models, but she goes along as a cheering section and where ever they go, they usually find other things to do in the area together.
My real horses suffer in no way either, from my model involvements. My real horses are my therapy, I spend time with them everyday!
And Gracie's Mom certainly doesn't lack for REAL horses either... =)Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.
Proud Closet Canterer! Member Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.
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And God Bless all of us and our beloved horses and friends both human and equine. I'm personally neither lacking in divine equine companionship nor the warmth & comfort of my model (and real) horse pals!! Horses (both real & model) bring us so much joy!Originally posted by summerhorseAnd Gracie's Mom certainly doesn't lack for REAL horses either... =)
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[QUOTE=spookhorse]And Julie here was the live show hostess of the first model horse show I ever went to 13 years ago... so it's all her fault I'm a model horse weirdo
Shannon....I may take some credit for your model horse involvement...But I won't take it for your becoming a wierdo!!!
Gracie's Mom
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this is somthing that i was really into last summer. I couldn't (and still can not) afford a breyer horse (too many other bills right now), hence why I'm not quite as into it. I did all sorts of research, looked at pictures from the shows and stuff. this is a VERY big thing with a lot of people. some of that minature tack is AMAZING, the time and effort it takes is tremendous!
I have a picture of an off brand horse with a paper saddle that I made from last summer, here, I'll post it.
http://i6.tinypic.com/156ydxd.jpg
it really doesnt look too bad in real life. it took me a couple of hours i thinkTuffy 8 year old QH mare
Dash 2 year old Halfinger gelding
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Well, actually, we *could* have a Special Run made, just for COTH. The Peter Stone Company will do SR's for groups. But you do have to raise some cash first. They won't just agree to an SR for the heck of it, and *someone* has to pay for the prototype. And the edition horse will not be a $20 piece of junk, it would likely cost between $30 and $45, conservatively.Originally posted by goeslikestinkwell i think you guys should make a coth horse as a mascot to the board haha
at least you dont have to feed it -
I have been thinking about it all week. Now I'm thinking about it some more. I think I will even go so far as to call or write the company tomorrow!! All this thinking is going to get me in trouble, isn't it?
I'm thinking the Pony or the walking Thoroughbred. I lean towards the Pony, with the braided mane/tail version. She is very hunter-y and has a cute face. The TB would appeal more if he didn't have that mile long bridle path.
For the uninitated, the Pony was first done as a portrait of Kiss Me Not. I happen to be the proud owner of the only two Kissy's signed by Amanda Forte.
This could be fun!
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pat why dont we combine the coth as in mascot but coth as in some how rasing pennies to go towards a gruop that resuces horses that coth use
so the mascot when presented at model shows has smoe real meaning and will help a bit towards keeping those in a center to becare for -- i dont know which coth resuce center it likes the most but could suppported different ones at difrent model shows -- and then peenies put in box and then donate boxt to rescue center-- i dunno what do you think
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I was just thinking that... I used to be very into dollhouses. I had a house and chose wall papers and paint and furniture - I made some things, bought others and tried to make it historically accurate (for a Victorian time period). I didn't get very far though, before I got back into riding seriously and then I had a horse and all my spare money went to riding lessons and schooling fees and show entries! But I still have maybe $500 worth of stuff that I bought - it was all so elaborate and so expensive! And I have such respect for anyone who's good at that stuff - you need a lot of patience and very nimble finger tips, plus a good sense of design to get colors right and make it all perfect - plus all the research that goes into making everything accurate! Anything in minature is VERY expensive to do well (dollhouse, trains, horses, what have you) and the collections done by the dedicated collectors are truly impressive.Originally posted by moonriverfarmI see this as no different than dollhouse/doll furniture collectors or model train collectors.... the "horse show" part is what I just don't "get". But I am a little dense at times, so I am SURE it's me! At any rate, it has to be cheaper and easier than showing the real thing, so maybe WE are the weirdos!
I had some friends when I was young who did Breyer showing for 4-H - it was an educational thing I think - they had to learn about confirmation and tack and equipment and then dress up/prepare a model to show off what they had learned.
I'd LOVE to see some more photos if any one has them, especially of the set ups for the classes!Sarah ( & Regal)
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger -
unless it breaks your heart first
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Here are some pics of tacked up models
Stockhorse in English (she's a standing model, this is not one I did)
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spookh...c5.jpg&.src=ph
Stockhorse in Western (again, I did not do this set-up)
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spookh...4f.jpg&.src=ph
Puissance Wall (though I notice I put the flags on wrong *sigh* will have to retake plus he has a rider now!)
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spookh...29.jpg&.src=ph
English Trail- jumping natural obstacle
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spookh...d5.jpg&.src=ph
I will have to get some of my major stockhorse contender- he does steer roping, barrels, and reining!~ Shannon Hayden ~
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best place to sell breyers- ebay?
I collected models for years and years but always thought the showing part was kind of goofy. I totally understand why hobbyists do it, but it's just not my cup of tea. I do think it's an art form to sculpt a beautiful model. Those folks have a lot of talent, for sure.Originally posted by poltroonThere is an auction at Breyerfest where they sell one-of-a-kinds from the factory where prices typically run a few thousand for the most desired pieces.
Some of the old "decorators" - ie, non-horse colors that no one wanted in the 50's and 60's like blue and metallic gold - will sell in the thousands if in perfect condition.
A more typical premium price for a model that was produced in reasonable (>100) numbers and is desirable would be $50-$100.
An older horse that is nothing special and/or with rubs in the finish might go for $5-$20. (The newer paint jobs have more detail and more depth and complexity than the older ones did.)
I thought the price of models had really dropped in the past few years, but this post makes me think maybe not? Or maybe since most of mine are older models, they just aren't worth as much as the fancy new ones that I no longer collect.
well anyway, I have a real filly in training and have 95% decided to sell some of my breyers to keep her there a few more months. What's the best place- ebay? Some of these other breyer- specific sites? I have a wedgewood running mare and Mosaic, the first connoiseur horse and am hoping those two alone will pay for another two months of training!
There are a few of my childhood favorites that I don't think I"ll be able to sell, but for the most part I have probalby over 80 horses that have been in boxes for years and years- why do I hang on to them! Time to let them go and get my little filly started correctly for what I really like to do with horses- ride them!~Living the life I imagined~
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Hey101: The eBay crowd is a little soft, except for the more rare/desirable horses. It's a good place for the ones that are worth $20 or less. I'd sell the Mosaic on the Model Horse Sales Pages or the Haynet Exchange (a Yahoo group) BUT if you announce the auction on the Pages and the Exchange, eBay is not a completely bad choice. The Wegdie would still fetch a good price, just set a reserve. No less than $800, but I would expect to get more if she's in very good to mint shape.
OK here's the email about the COTH SR. GULP!!
[SIZE=2]Thank you for your interest in Stone Horses. We would be happy to work with
you on a project like this. Here is a quick rundown on doing a special run:
1. You submit a painted sample, pictures, or even a good verbal desciption
of the horse, and the date you would like to have the run by. We will
review it and see if it is too difficult to produce, or too similar to
another item we have produced. If we accept the run, we will need a $500
nonrefundable prototype deposit to create a sample.
2. We send you a painted prototype (or email pictures) and a special run
contract. We make any adjustments based on your review. When you approve
the prototype you send the prototype and contract back to us.
3. We determine the price based on your approved sample. If the price is
acceptable, we ask for 50% down to schedule production. We then credit you
for the $500 prototype deposit, and the balance is due prior to shipping.
We do require a 100 piece minimum order. Any of our current large or medium
scale models are available, although there are minor limitations. If you
are interested in pursuing this further, I will put you in contact with
Kellie, who handles our special runs, and she will be able to give you more
particulars. If you have any questions, please let me know. You are also
welcome to call us at 866-581-1370 (toll free).
We hope to work with you soon.
Sincerely,
Doug Galbreath
The Peter Stone Company
SOOO, what do "we" think? $500 up front is a bit scary. It's a deposit, but that's nearly half my rent!
We would pretty much get to choose exactly what it looked like, which is nice.
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I sell a lot on ebay, but it's probably not the best place- lots of people looking for deals.It depends quite a bit on what you have and your timing. You will probably get good prices for the two you mentioned, though, especially if you make them featured auctions.Timing is strange though- I bought two very limited Peter Stone models, and put one on ebay right away. While they were still available direct from the store (at around $65), I sold model #1 for $225. This last week I could barely get $75 for the other, which was also signed. But I didn't have time to go advertise it elsewhere either.
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Hmm, perhaps. I'm going to start another thread for this.
BUT before I do, I have to announce how incredibly smart I am
I occaisonally come up with fabulous ideas (about once every 10 years) and have a GOODIE this time.
(Drum roll, please) How's about having the SR be RR's $700 Pony? With her permission, of course. Well, *I* like it, any way.
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Originally posted by PatHmm, perhaps. I'm going to start another thread for this.
BUT before I do, I have to announce how incredibly smart I am
I occaisonally come up with fabulous ideas (about once every 10 years) and have a GOODIE this time.
(Drum roll, please) How's about having the SR be RR's $700 Pony? With her permission, of course. Well, *I* like it, any way.
Pat, I don't know the stry of RR's $700 pony, could you share?
Well.....I have a humble suggestion for a COTH SR. That would be my own mare, GracieWunder. She is the foal I bred from my beloved TB mare Hillary (owned her now for 15 years) from a Hanoviarian stallion named Gonzo I. The vets didn't discover the twins, and Gracie was the larger of the pair at 58 lbs at birth (the other lived for a very short time & was around 40#). The vets gave her practically no chance to survive, but she defied less than 5% odds and finally stood on her own on her 6th day of life, which was coincidentally the day my hubby & I had decided to throw in the towel! She was in ICU care for a month, then had to have more surgeries for her eyes, hernias, and even spent a week in the padded stall at University of Florida due to horrible nonstop seizures from atropine toxicity from her eyedrops. We used euthanasia solution to put her in a barbituate coma to stop the seizures after the vet emtpied all the valium off his truck into a mere foal.
Besides her story, she is an amazing & wierd color, nobody really knows if she is a bay or chestnut base. She is the color of a Hershey's kiss, and has classic rabicano roaning & skunk tail, plus a distinctive tornado-like large blaze! She is a color you don't see much of, that's for sure! I've asked Lesli Kathman about her and she didn't know what to call her color, I'd need to send her hair to be analyzed.
On top of it all is that MANY hobbyists know of Gracie, as Haynet got the longwinded stories about her progress, waaaay back when Haynet was a very friendly and supportive place. I bet some of them would buy a "GracieWunder" SR model, Gracie's Haynet Aunties are wonderful and still ask me how she's doing 6 years later!!!
The pony mold would work nicely for her, as she's matured to just about 15 h on a good day & is very "pony-like" in many ways!
See her here, just go to Gracie's Pages. I haven't added any recent pictures of her for few years, but you can see what she went through.
www.julhar.com/
Just a suggestion from Gracie's Mom!!!
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