NH or no NH...and why?

[Need4speed]

I witnessed the beer cans first hand at a NH clinic I attended several years ago. I also think NH definitely has roots in WTD.

I think a blinged version of BWAWB will sell allot better. Perhaps BWAWB should be written on the bag with glitter.

No no Percheron X, BWAWB needs to be emblazoned across the ass of the complementary hot pants that comes free with the BWAWB

[horse_poor]

Well, you see, Walmart did not want their name associated with us for whatever reason so We "lifted" their name off the bag using some of our super duper WTD DT (only $19.99/roll), leaving only part of the ink behind. Then, A.P. our world renowned Camp WTD Macaroni Art Counselor, hand placed macaroni art on the bag, spelling out WTDNH on one side, BWAWB on the other. (Since Walmart caught wind of their name used in the BWAWB name, it is now Branch With A WHITE Bag) The price of this artwork alone is $49.99, so the entire BWAB is a real steal!

And do not be fooled by imitations.

PS-Need4Speed is only half right-hot pants are only given out to random purchases. Like the ones who book at least 5 private training sessions and order at least 50 BWAWBs.

[Percheron X]

No no Percheron X, BWAWB needs to be emblazoned across the ass of the complementary hot pants that comes free with the BWAWB

Thanks speed... you just made my day.

[Gnalli]

No no Percheron X, BWAWB needs to be emblazoned across the ass of the complementary hot pants that comes free with the BWAWB

Aunt Esther is going to come smack all of us with her purse!! I just keep seeing sparkly gold hot pants ala Solid Gold dancers with tall boots-oh wait, they have to be go go boots, not field boots, right? And under our helmets, we can wear the sequined skull cap things!! OOH, WTD meets WTDNH

[horse_poor]

You big silly-there are no helmets in WTD or WTDNH. Only the beer sippy hats!

[catknsn]

Personally, my problem with NH is that a lot of it is basic common sense wrapped up in fancy packaging. You don't NEED a fancy shmancy carrot stick to form a relationship with your horse. And really, judging from some of the Natural Horsemanship dropouts I've seen (and the work people have had to put into them to really understand exactly what was done to them), do you even WANT that relationship to begin with?

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but that's my take on it. To me, it's like dieting. You can pay a whole bunch of money to Jenny Craig or Nutrisystem or buy every Atkins book, cookbook, audiotape and accompanying exercise mat on earth or you can, as my good friend the personal trainer likes to put it EAT LESS AND EXERCISE MORE...for free.

There is nothing you'll learn from any of these "gurus" that you can't learn from working 100 different horses who've had 100 different lives. And you might actually get paid for that!

[DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho"]

I am so touched...(pauses, to wipe a tear from her eye)...this is aboslutely a shining example of derailment. I humbly accept that I may have inspired you all. Now, if we could just add an element of rollkur here....that could take us over the top.

[LMH]

OK I will bite and treat this like a real question

It is no BB secret that I thoroughly enjoy lots of what Parelli and other NH'ers have to offer.

Several years back I bought my first foal, had NO clue and needed help. I looked into Lyons, Buck, Dorrances, Mark Rashid, and Parelli. I have picked up wonderful information from everyone.

I currently use almost exclusive Parelli for ground skills, manners, teaching confidence and just pure 'fun stuff'-call me a geek but I LOVE watching the things Parelli does with his horses at liberty.

Yes, it can be taught with lots of different methods-but his makes sense to me and it works for me...so I use it

For physical development I go more classical-I currently am taking dress-ahge lessons weekly and the balance between both worlds is the best *I* have seen.

I don't pay so much attention the the orange stick swingers and many (most) of them kinda freak me out...but reading what Pat has to say and watching him, well I learn things that I use...again call me geek-ina.

My experience is using the information while ignoring the flash has been nothing but positive, enhanced the development (mentally and emotionally) of my horses...through in some good old fashion dressage and hunter training while respecting the instincts of the horse (as taught through Parelli and others) and I am very pleased with the outcome.

I know people say it is common horsemanship-but reading classical type books just didn't break it down enough for me to grasp until I found the Parelli information-now I can see the relationship between the two worlds.

Then again I am blonde so maybe this just speaks to my roots

[DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho"]

Leah, Leah....can a derailment of a derailment count as a derailment, or did you just return the train to its tracks?

[physical.energy]

DGRHo I'd say that counts as another derailment

[LMH]

Just here to help ma'am

[EqTrainer]

Sorry to be serious, but there is a real lack of written material on classical horsemanship, other than riding. I think what Leah has done is the smart way to approach it.

I keep meaning to write that book.. but then I start having to say all the standard disclaimer words and I give up.

[JackieBlue]

May I point out that in every thread in which Aly is "sharing" pm's or emails with us, all of her supposed friends/supporters make all the same spelling and grammatical errors? The word which stands out the easiest in every single one is "advise". I find it odd that everyone who pm's or emails Aly not only likes to use the word "advice" a lot, but they all misspell the word the exact same way. STOP MAKING THINGS UP! It won't make them come true!!

[Percheron X]

May I point out that in every thread in which Aly is "sharing" pm's or emails with us, all of her supposed friends/supporters make all the same spelling and grammatical errors? The word which stands out the easiest in every single one is "advise". I find it odd that everyone who pm's or emails Aly not only likes to use the word "advice" a lot, but they all misspell the word the exact same way. STOP MAKING THINGS UP! It won't make them come true!!

I don't get it? Unless everyone is sending everyone else's emails to each other, and that's weird in its own right...

[JackieBlue]

I don't get it? Unless everyone is sending everyone else's emails to each other, and that's weird in its own right...

I was pointing out the distinct possibility that her shared "pm's and email" are fabrications.

[OakesBrae]

JackieBlue, I tip my hat to your powers of observation. That was pretty good - I didn't catch it - but it is highly unlikely that the word advice would be spelled incorrectly by a "group of friends".

[Sswor]

alysheba debunked!

That's it Sherlock! She's caught red handed! And to think, her downfall was caused by her lack of spell check...

[Candle]

oooookay here goes. I know these aren't in proper form, but I don't have THAT much time on my hands!

There was once a young man with kholrabi
He didn’t know he was teaching the obvi
He jumped on a horse
Unbroken of course
And ended up marketing his hobby

And then there were horsemen who rode
For the kholrabi no good did this bode
For they laughed in his face
Took his horse to their place
And trained it just fine with their mode

The people on COTH filled with mirth
For flickitatin’ ropes filled the earth
They hoped and they prayed
For many a day
For the NH’er who’d ne’er even tightened her girth

For she was not allowed to ride
Nay, not sit astride
‘Til her mare was deemed fixed
By the man with the kohlrabi stick
As her money came in his time did he bide

At last the new owner was broke
Weary and tired, she spoke
“I’m so tired of this prattle
Just give me my saddle”
And ne’er again with kohlrabi did she poke!

[equusrocks]

Candle that's precious!

[Candle]

I can't sleep I thought I'd contribute something useful to this thread. Thanks