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NASTY barn visitor...now morphed into a discussion of class, and lack thereof

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  • Originally posted by InVA
    "They're the type born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and have never had to take it out to see reality. I wouldn't say anything "

    I beg to differ. It isn't the people that are born with silver spoons in their mouth that act that way - it is the one's that weren't and who have someone acquired all the trappings of wealth but not a shred of good manners. ALL the money in the world doesn't buy class and you won't see evidence of that anywhere more than in the horse world. and btw having class does not mean walking around with your nose in the air and a stick up your butt. (you know who you are)....

    I agree. My dad worked in the financial industry in Palm Beach for nearly 30 years. Consequently, he had lots of contact with people with lots of money, and I had some as well. The nicest were the ones that had "old money", that had been taught how to handle it and how to behave properly. The nastiest and most rude were the nouveau riche, who insisted on letting everyone know exactly how much money they have, how much they pay for everything, and how they only buy the best (in their minds, the most expensive ), and belittling anything they don't think is expensive enough to command their respect. Fortunately, they're easy to spot......... not so easy to avoid, though.
    In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
    A life lived by example, done too soon.
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    • Originally posted by SBT
      That's goeslikestink. She's mentioned on this board that she's dyslexic and not the best typist/computer person. If you look up her other posts, you'll find that she has a lot of intelligent (and funny!) things to say.
      you said it faster (and better!) than me.

      My excuse is that I spew what I'm eating on the keyboard when I read posts and start laughing and now it sticks.
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      • Originally posted by Pat
        My barn has yours beat by a mile. I have an outhouse, complete with a moon cut out on the door. I've opened the door once. I was too afraid to go any further.

        I personally don't mind the short walk back to the house.
        Oh, but ours is DECORATED with many horsey themed items. And spiders in the warmer months, so you often kick the door and then yell at them and then leave the lights and door open and hover.

        And I rip off teepee from work to stock as it often forgets to make its way down from the house.
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          Agree w/ESG. I've also met my share of both types. Bottom line is that a person is a person, and I've met as many "poor" nasty people as I have "rich" nasty people. Money, or lack thereof, doesn't fortell class.

          Currently boarded at my barn is an old, laminitic show pony owned by a VERY wealthy family in NYC. Last week, they came for a visit. They arrived in an Escalade with a driver, but the little girl bounced out of the car in ratty sneakers and "ordinary" clothes. After fussing over the pony, I asked if she wanted to ride one of the school horses. Her face lit up: "REALLY?" Then she looked sad: "But I don't have my riding stuff." I told her she could borrow my helmet and half chaps. She lit up again!

          This adorable kid had A BLAST on the not-fancy lesson horse, and her grandfather and driver (who spent the time picking grass for the horses ) had to practically drag her off the non-fancy farm when she was done. I told her she should come visit her pony and ride with us more often, because we have trails she just has to see. "WOW, REALLY?"

          The sweetest thing was when she was done riding, she took off my helmet and half chaps, neatly folded the half chaps, and held them out to me with a big "Thank You!" and "I LOVE your helmet, it's so cool!" (ATH)

          PURE CLASS. If this kid (and driver) ever go missing from Manhattan, it'll be because I kidnapped them to come trail ride in the boonies with me.

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          • Gee, if your non-fancy barn has a chemical toilet or an outhouse, what does that mean for where I board? I have a stall with a designated bucket

            I don't put much stock in "fancy" anymore. I like safe, clean and functional/efficient.

            SBT: you handled the telling of the BO very nicely. I would be proud to have you as an employee any day.
            <>< Sorrow Looks Back. Worry Looks Around. Faith Looks Up! -- Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may be given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.

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            • Originally posted by ChocoMare
              Gee, if your non-fancy barn has a chemical toilet or an outhouse, what does that mean for where I board? I have a stall with a designated bucket
              Who needs a bucket?

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              • My other half needs that bucket. He has a thing for "using" a stall after I cleaned it. I know it shouldn't make me mad, but it does.

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                • Mine used to, too, until we built our bathroom in the barn. Hacked me off totally. Let him clean the effing stall then, after I "use" it!
                  In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
                  A life lived by example, done too soon.
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                  • LOL, reminds me of the time I was boarding and the BO ducked into a stall to pee. The place was brand new, just built and didn't have a bathroom or port-o-pottie yet and I know lots of folks will pee in stall bedding. Good for them...but this bloke had ducked into one of MY stalls. I just looked at him through the stall bars and said, "piss in my stall and I swear by all that's holy I'll tie that thing in SUCH a knot!" I heard a fast zippper noise and he relocated himself to outside the barn, LMAO!
                    (he really was a sweet person, I think I scared him a bit)
                    You jump in the saddle,
                    Hold onto the bridle!
                    Jump in the line!
                    ...Belefonte

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                    • Originally posted by MistyBlue
                      LOL, reminds me of the time I was boarding and the BO ducked into a stall to pee. The place was brand new, just built and didn't have a bathroom or port-o-pottie yet and I know lots of folks will pee in stall bedding. Good for them...but this bloke had ducked into one of MY stalls. I just looked at him through the stall bars and said, "piss in my stall and I swear by all that's holy I'll tie that thing in SUCH a knot!" I heard a fast zippper noise and he relocated himself to outside the barn, LMAO!
                      (he really was a sweet person, I think I scared him a bit)
                      Good response!! Too funny.

                      I would throttle anyone who tried that in my barn. Yuck. Poor horses.
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                        Originally posted by ChocoMare
                        Gee, if your non-fancy barn has a chemical toilet or an outhouse, what does that mean for where I board? I have a stall with a designated bucket

                        I don't put much stock in "fancy" anymore. I like safe, clean and functional/efficient.

                        SBT: you handled the telling of the BO very nicely. I would be proud to have you as an employee any day.
                        Thanks, ChocoMare!

                        As far as toilet facilities go, that is one area in which my barn is NOT "ghetto." We have a HEATED bathroom with a flushing toilet! Now before you all go green with envy, the cleanliness of said bathroom is often questionable. Still, it's useable...overall what I'd consider "upscale ghetto."

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                        • Originally posted by MistyBlue
                          ...but this bloke had ducked into one of MY stalls. I just looked at him through the stall bars and said, "piss in my stall and I swear by all that's holy I'll tie that thing in SUCH a knot!"
                          Mistyblue, you're going to have to warn me before you just crack one off like that. *shork*

                          My craptastic, ghetto-licius barn DOES have a bathroom, but it's a SCARY SCARY place to visit, nevermind that I usually forget that I need to bring TP *with* me. I would clean it, but there are things living in that thar bowl that would probably fight back or at the very least try to get even.

                          I prefer my stall, but I must admit it hacks me off to think of anyone else using it for that purpose!

                          Oh and by the way, wealth is something ANYONE can achieve. The same can not be said of class and brains.
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                          ~Jilltx~

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                            Originally posted by jilltx
                            I would clean it, but there are things living in that thar bowl that would probably fight back or at the very least try to get even.
                            You mean I'm not the only one who's sat down, only to discover there's a big fly in the bowl and he wants OUT?

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                            • Originally posted by jilltx
                              Oh and by the way, wealth is something ANYONE can achieve. The same can not be said of class and brains.
                              Very true. Class, respect, manners, common courtesy MUST be taught: both in word in deed. Children learn what they hear and see.
                              <>< Sorrow Looks Back. Worry Looks Around. Faith Looks Up! -- Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may be given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.

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                              • Originally posted by SBT
                                That's goeslikestink. She's mentioned on this board that she's dyslexic and not the best typist/computer person. If you look up her other posts, you'll find that she has a lot of intelligent (and funny!) things to say.
                                If that's the case, my apologies. I editted my previous post to delete the insensitive comment.
                                Last edited by dizzywriter; Jun. 2, 2006, 01:04 PM.

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                                • Originally posted by Pat
                                  My barn has yours beat by a mile. I have an outhouse, complete with a moon cut out on the door. I've opened the door once. I was too afraid to go any further.

                                  I personally don't mind the short walk back to the house.

                                  See, now don't fuss. I saw the cutest outhouse in BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS about a month or 2 ago-it was floored, painted white, had a window with colored glass bottles to reflect the light, and candles and a white painted galvanized garbage can with lime (and a scoop) in it, complete with a supply of water....They've gone uptown now... (seriously, I did see it there, and it was like that)
                                  http://community.webshots.com/album/548368465RfewoU[/url]

                                  She may not have changed the stars from their courses, but she loved a good man, and she rode good horses….author unknown

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                                  • Originally posted by SBT
                                    Agree w/ESG. I've also met my share of both types. Bottom line is that a person is a person, and I've met as many "poor" nasty people as I have "rich" nasty people. Money, or lack thereof, doesn't fortell class.

                                    Currently boarded at my barn is an old, laminitic show pony owned by a VERY wealthy family in NYC. Last week, they came for a visit. They arrived in an Escalade with a driver, but the little girl bounced out of the car in ratty sneakers and "ordinary" clothes. After fussing over the pony, I asked if she wanted to ride one of the school horses. Her face lit up: "REALLY?" Then she looked sad: "But I don't have my riding stuff." I told her she could borrow my helmet and half chaps. She lit up again!

                                    This adorable kid had A BLAST on the not-fancy lesson horse, and her grandfather and driver (who spent the time picking grass for the horses ) had to practically drag her off the non-fancy farm when she was done. I told her she should come visit her pony and ride with us more often, because we have trails she just has to see. "WOW, REALLY?"

                                    The sweetest thing was when she was done riding, she took off my helmet and half chaps, neatly folded the half chaps, and held them out to me with a big "Thank You!" and "I LOVE your helmet, it's so cool!" (ATH)

                                    PURE CLASS. If this kid (and driver) ever go missing from Manhattan, it'll be because I kidnapped them to come trail ride in the boonies with me.
                                    Kids like that are jewels and precious beyond measure. You are right, classy. Mama and Daddy should be proud.
                                    http://community.webshots.com/album/548368465RfewoU[/url]

                                    She may not have changed the stars from their courses, but she loved a good man, and she rode good horses….author unknown

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                                    • Having class has absolutely nothing to do with money

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                                      • Originally posted by Gnalli
                                        See, now don't fuss. I saw the cutest outhouse in BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS about a month or 2 ago-it was floored, painted white, had a window with colored glass bottles to reflect the light, and candles and a white painted galvanized garbage can with lime (and a scoop) in it, complete with a supply of water....They've gone uptown now... (seriously, I did see it there, and it was like that)
                                        Scan that article and send it to me, right now!! I promise that if we do ever by this place I will do that to the outtie! But not now, not only do I just rent the joint, there's all manner of biting insects in that thing right now. Nuh-uh, no way Im going in there.


                                        Yuppers, class rarely has anything to do with money. Tho, I've met a few local yokles out here that would make your teeth curl. Bless thier hearts, they don't know any better.

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                                        • Originally posted by YankeeLawyer
                                          When my horses are stalled, I never want to see them without hay, and I would rather have to throw out a bit of hay in the morning than have them standing around without hay. Plenty of hay and water, among other things, helps stave off colic and keeps them from developing bad habits out of boredom. I do not board my horses but if I did I would rather pay extra to make sure the horse has adequate hay than quibble about how much hay he / she can have.

                                          And if the stall in fact smelled, it is not being cleaned well enough. Stalls should not smell.

                                          While I wouldn't do as this visitor did, as it is really none of her business how someone else manages a barn where she does not even board, I do not think her general viewpoint regarding the hay or stall cleaning is illegitimate.

                                          Regarding whether wealth correlates with rudeness; I have no idea what kind of "wealthy" people some of you are hanging out with but I wouldn't make assumptions about people's character based on how prvileged they may be. And you might stop to think for a minute that at least some of these privileged types did not get that way because they are dumb and lazy shi*s. If you flame me for this, so be it. I can't stand that "oh she's rich, therefore "X" attitude."
                                          Very well said - the whole thing.


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