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NASTY barn visitor...now morphed into a discussion of class, and lack thereof

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  • Originally posted by Aptor Hours
    What is a minimal care barn? I don't think I ever want to keep my horse at a barn like that. I know somebody said only barns on the A circuit get cleaned more than once a day but surely horses deserve clean stalls even if they aren't on the A circuit. All horses deserve high quality care in my opinion.
    And every one has thier idea of what is best for them.

    Don't ASSume that minimum care means poor care.

    Personally, if I where to put horses on board, this so-called "minimal care" is EXACTLY where I'd be. This is the type of place where I won't be nickle and dimed to death, no-one will have a heart attack if my horses' manes aren't pulled on a schedule, and would more likely than not turn my horses out for more than an hour or two every day, and probably in a group, too.

    Yup, that's right, most of those stuffy "A" barns think it's perfectly fine to turn your horse out for two hours!! And to even suggest that a horse should have a buddy is blasphemy. I know this because I have WORKED in these barns.

    Here's another shocker, horses feet wont fall off if the stall gets cleaned only once a day. Maybe the OP can clarify the typical turn out duration, but unless the horse is in it's stall for 20 hours a day, is this really a problem?

    I for one sincerely doubt that the pissy sister had any motivation but to try to one up the 17 year olds mom. Mom is in a 'average' barn and SIS is in a 'fancy' one. IE: I have more money than you! Classy, really classy.

    I'm appalled that ya'll are so quick to ASSume that the horse isn't being cared for well or properly, or what ever. Kudos to SBT for handling all this insulting behavior, HERE! SHE's the one taking care of said creature, you know!

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    • What insulting behavior? And what are you so mad about? Your post sure comes across as full of emotion for someone uninvolved in the original situation.
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        Pat, once again: You are the greatest!
        Nicker, thank you for your kind words.

        JackieBlue, I'm sorry this thread has offended you so much...but you DON'T have to read it, ya know.

        I talked to the BO today and told her what happened, then asked how she wants me to handle things like this. BO's response was that, obviously, we can't control what other people say...but that, as a staff member, I am ABSOLUTELY authorized to enforce barn policy. So people better respect my authoritah! J/K...sorta...

        So it's all water under the dam at this point. At least I know I did the right thing in sticking up for the barn/BO. And for the record, I would have done it even if I weren't an employee, because when people disregard barn rules and essentially steal from the BO, it drives up everyone's board. Call me a pot-stirrer if you want to, but that's just the way I feel about it.

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          Originally posted by JackieBlue
          Oh, and there is a Hay Nazi who will jump you if you dare to step out of line.
          Darn right! Just give me a sharp metal pitchfork and a badge...

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          • As for the hay thing, I would get FURIOUS if someone just gave hay whenever they wanted in what ever amount they wanted. I rent a barn, and lease out 2 stalls, 1 for a horse in training, and 1 for a friend. The friends daughter is bad to get into the hay, and give her horse more. Of course, everything in the barn then thinks DINNERTIME and goes into feeding mode. They buy feed and hay, but since we do it on a split deal, I have it figured out exactly how much hay it takes to get us thru til the next batch can be bought. Kiddo giving her horse more hay throws all that off.

            Besides the money issue, if I came into the barn and saw leftover feed and or hay when the horse should have cleaned it all up, I would go into immediate worry mode. Nothing in my barn leaves feed, so seeing it when there should be none IS cause for worry. Now, if kiddo has given the horse feed or hay, horse eats it all and I don't know he has been fed already, and I come behind her, and put more feed in, we have a major problem just waiting to happen.

            One person needs to be in charge of the feed-not a bunch of folks feeding whenever they want what amount they want.
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            • Originally posted by Gnalli
              One person needs to be in charge of the feed-not a bunch of folks feeding whenever they want what amount they want.
              And you would think that this would be obvious, wouldn't you? Sigh...

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              • Man... My barn is the cleanest, most friendly, horse caring, older place BUT, you get one snob "visiting" with one of the boaders and all of the sudden barn is not nice anymore because the horses don't have electric wateres...

                It's everywhere.

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                • Originally posted by goeslikestink
                  goad love adove -- tis was a family conversation between siblings look to me if there hay then it should be fed ab lib best thing for ahorse is hay

                  so on that score havent a problem god oliie gets a bale to himself at night hes 172hh warm blood smallest of 11.2h get 3 sectiions othere get half and gracie 3/4 of a bale and if then in during the day then the same constant hay as that what they do outside constantly eat the grass-- and pick the best palces to eat it to--

                  dont get so defensive just forget it
                  Editted to delete insensitive comment.
                  Last edited by dizzywriter; Jun. 2, 2006, 01:03 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by JackieBlue
                    Alysheba

                    The above quotes say so much about you and your values that I actually feel embarassed for you. People with brains and class get much further in life (financially and otherwise) than people who have money handed to them and they tend to be happier along the way, as well. And, BTW, all the things you listed that you can't do with brains and class really make you look like an idiot b/c people with brains tend to be better at almost everything you mentioned. And since when does buying things make the world a better place?
                    Anywho, I hope you're having a better day today SBT.
                    JB, Alysheba said nothing about brains. S/he said s/he preferred money to class. Someone who says that clearly has no brains and no class, but maybe has money. But I disagree with you that people with brains tend to do better. It is sad, but that's not always true. People with brains who USE them often do better (how do we define "better" is a different issue), but they don't always use them.

                    As for spanking kids, I don't think that's an indicator or class, brains or money. Often it's just luck to have kids that need or don't need spanking.

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                    • Originally posted by magnolia73
                      I find it interesting that she grabbed 4 flakes of hay, but did not pick up a pitch fork. If she thought the stall was gross, she should have done something about it.

                      I think it's great that she wanted to see her friend's horse in a clean stall with hay.... but really, if you speak, you need to act. I think some people just like to hear themselves pontificate. It's a trait that crosses all income levels.
                      ...and ages. i just spent an afternoon with a middle-aged friend that spent the entire time pontificating.

                      But I don't think that saying a place smells requires the person making the comment to clean the place up. We don't know the level of stink here. My barn smells of shavings, sh!t and horses. Perfume to me. But stalls get picked every day (for which I pay good money). Without details, it's hard to judge who is in the right.

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                      • I think that you might be over-reacting. If a BO flipped out everytime a boarders' relative said something they didn't like they'd have no boarders! Stuff happens. I would have suggested they talk to the BO about feeding to make sure they understood and are happy with the care. There are some clients you can never please and sooner or later they move on.

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                        • Originally posted by Pat
                          And you would think that this would be obvious, wouldn't you? Sigh...

                          You would think so, but someone's sig line on here says it all-common sense is the least common thing in the world.
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                          • "They're the type born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and have never had to take it out to see reality. I wouldn't say anything "

                            I beg to differ. It isn't the people that are born with silver spoons in their mouth that act that way - it is the one's that weren't and who have someone acquired all the trappings of wealth but not a shred of good manners. ALL the money in the world doesn't buy class and you won't see evidence of that anywhere more than in the horse world. and btw having class does not mean walking around with your nose in the air and a stick up your butt. (you know who you are)....

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                            • Originally posted by LovesHorses
                              My boarding barn when I am sounds exactly like SBTs. I take it upon myself to clean the stall a second time in the afternoon. It needs it and my horses are outside all day. At the same time, board is low, therefore you get what you pay for. The hay at our place is locked up due to people giving their insanely fat horses extra piles of hay. Other boarders shouldn't have a rate increase due to a few ignorant people.
                              That pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter, too. Even if the OP was a boarder, and not an employee, I think she still had a right to say something if another boarder or their guest was violating barn rules. Ultimately, if there are problems like that, then everyone else will suffer with increased board rates or locked feedrooms.
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                              • Originally posted by InVA
                                "They're the type born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and have never had to take it out to see reality. I wouldn't say anything "

                                I beg to differ. It isn't the people that are born with silver spoons in their mouth that act that way - it is the one's that weren't and who have someone acquired all the trappings of wealth but not a shred of good manners. ALL the money in the world doesn't buy class and you won't see evidence of that anywhere more than in the horse world. and btw having class does not mean walking around with your nose in the air and a stick up your butt. (you know who you are)....
                                I'd say having class is precisely the opposite. Nobless oblige anyone? Maybe I'm sensitive to this because I live in a place with mucho nouveau riches whose idea of charity is inviting the driver/bodyguard in out of the rain. Too often crass is confused with class.

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                                  Originally posted by dizzywriter
                                  I haven't read the entire thread but had to butt in here. Does anyone understand this?
                                  That's goeslikestink. She's mentioned on this board that she's dyslexic and not the best typist/computer person. If you look up her other posts, you'll find that she has a lot of intelligent (and funny!) things to say.

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                                    • Originally posted by Feenikks
                                      Man... My barn is the cleanest, most friendly, horse caring, older place BUT, you get one snob "visiting" with one of the boaders and all of the sudden barn is not nice anymore because the horses don't have electric wateres...

                                      It's everywhere.
                                      We had someone come to the barn to try someone's horse [one of the women who trailers in to take lesson with the trainer, she doesn't have an indoor]. Our barn is not fancy, but well built and clean. Indoor is 22 x 22 so not the best for riding but fabulous for ground work. It is NOT a show barn, but it is a happy, peaceful place with well cared for horses.

                                      And so I very proudly showed the visitor our chemical toilet when she asked to use the facilities...
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                                        • My barn has yours beat by a mile. I have an outhouse, complete with a moon cut out on the door. I've opened the door once. I was too afraid to go any further.

                                          I personally don't mind the short walk back to the house.

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