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  • #81
    I know the type

    And one thing is for certain. She may think that her current barn is "all that" but eventually she will think otherwise. And then it is her current barn owner that will be dragged through the mud in between her ringing up sales.

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    • #82
      Well, not to argue and not to "down" any barns...but if my horse is in for the day due to any reason, that stall should be cleaned more than once in 24 hours. Resp issues come from fumes. And I don't want my horses' hay thrown on the floor of a manure filled stall...otherwise I might as well just buy wormer and throw it right out again for all the affect it will have. If the barn is full care, then stalls cleaned more than once in 24 hours if they're inside for the day. JMO. If it's partial or rough board, then if the owner doesn't like the stall's condition the owner should be able to find the muck bucket and forks.
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      • #83
        Originally posted by SBT
        Alagirl, I didn't hear her "gossipping" at the tack shop per se (though I wouldn't put it past her), just spouting HER snooty opinions on things. Hard to explain, so I'll just share my experience.

        I went there a few months ago, looking to replace my smashed ATH with another one just like it. I browsed the helmet section, and found nothing but Charles Owens and GPA's. So I asked Sweet Sis if they had any ATH's. She remarked in a catty tone, "What, you don't like the GPA?" I said, "No, my pocketbook doesn't like it." She responded, "Well, *I* bought one for my daughter. It's the safest helmet there is, and you can't put a price on your safety." I said, "Sure I can, and it's not $400." Sweet Sis reluctantly offered to ORDER me an ATH. I said, "No, I'll just order it from Dover. It'll be cheaper and I'll get it faster!" Sweet Sis walked away in a huff. I was NOT at all rude to her, just honest about not wanting to spend $400 on a helmet.

        Rather than waste the trip, I picked up a few supplies and went to check out. I had never met Sweet Sis before, but she bore a striking resemblance to 17 y/o's mom, so I asked, "Are you XXXXX's sister?" She said yes. I then told her where I boarded...same barn as her sister...and her reply was a flat, "OH." She didn't say anything else, but she didn't have to.

        Basically, with this kind of holier-than-thou attitude, I find it hard to believe she WOULDN'T badmouth the barn if asked about it. Especially after her behavior the other day.
        Maybe I'll get flamed here, but if I went to visit a barn and the stalls smelled and horses were consistantly standing around without hay, that's exactly what I would tell someone if they asked me about it. I don't think that's strange or catty or gossip-y. It's telling the truth and, when asked for my opinion, I give my truthful opinion if any comment is appropriate. And people ask tack shop employees for advice, opinions, recommendations on barns, trainers, etc... all the time. Are you sure you're not just miffed that this particular woman saw your barn not looking/smelling its best? You didn't tell us in your OP that you already knew and didn't like the sister.
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        • #84
          Originally posted by Mozart
          And one thing is for certain. She may think that her current barn is "all that" but eventually she will think otherwise. And then it is her current barn owner that will be dragged through the mud in between her ringing up sales.
          Why? Why will she eventually think otherwise? That sure is a lot of conjecture about someone you don't know? Who is even being drug through the mud now? Some folks around here sure do love a good old fashioned witch hunt.
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          • #85
            Well...

            I said that based on the OP's description (which, given that this is a bb, is all that we have to go on . Ever. ) of her condescending attitude and her behaviour. They are the trainer hoppers, the ones who move from barn to barn and always have negative things to say about the last barn they were in. And if I am wrong, well, to SBT's employer's boarder's aunt ...SORRY! ( )

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            • #86
              My boarding barn when I am sounds exactly like SBTs. I take it upon myself to clean the stall a second time in the afternoon. It needs it and my horses are outside all day. At the same time, board is low, therefore you get what you pay for. The hay at our place is locked up due to people giving their insanely fat horses extra piles of hay. Other boarders shouldn't have a rate increase due to a few ignorant people.

              I like my barn, the BO and boarders are awesome. So what if I have to pick out my stall. I'll gladly do it to be there. If someone doesn't like the stalls cleaned once a day then they can pay more $$ and gladly go somewhere else.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Mozart
                I said that based on the OP's description (which, given that this is a bb, is all that we have to go on . Ever. ) of her condescending attitude and her behaviour. They are the trainer hoppers, the ones who move from barn to barn and always have negative things to say about the last barn they were in. And if I am wrong, well, to SBT's employer's boarder's aunt ...SORRY! ( )
                I've never been a trainer hopper and if I went to my sister's barn and her horse's stall reaked, I'd tell her about it. Maybe the one sister isn't as "horsey" as the other and the more experienced one just being the "caring sister" and trying to let her sister know that she can do better in the way of horse care. I just don't get how commenting on a smelly stall automatically makes this woman a trainer and barn hopper! The speculation on some threads around here makes my head spin!
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                • #88
                  Originally posted by MistyBlue
                  Well, not to argue and not to "down" any barns...but if my horse is in for the day due to any reason, that stall should be cleaned more than once in 24 hours. Resp issues come from fumes. And I don't want my horses' hay thrown on the floor of a manure filled stall.
                  Actually, this is a good point. If I knew my horse was going to be in all day, I would expect to clean it out myself a second time. I would only expect the barn staff to do it if we had talked about it ahead of time. I wouldn't expect full care to cover this unless they were keeping my horse in when he should be out.

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                  • #89
                    As for her comment about horses needing food in front of them all the time.. I don't have a problem with that.. all our horses have food in front of them. I Certainly would give my horse 4 flakes of hay to keep him busy over night.
                    There was still hay in the stall.
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by JackieBlue
                      Maybe I'll get flamed here, but if I went to visit a barn and the stalls smelled and horses were consistantly standing around without hay, that's exactly what I would tell someone if they asked me about it. I don't think that's strange or catty or gossip-y. It's telling the truth and, when asked for my opinion, I give my truthful opinion if any comment is appropriate.
                      So do I. But you and I both know how the truth can be twisted. In this case, the TRUTH is as follows:

                      A. This isn't a "fancy," full-care barn
                      B. 17y/o's horse was in the stall because that's where 17 y/o put it. It WAS out on pasture for the day, but 17 y/o brought it in...and left it in.
                      C. 17 y/o's horse is a PIG. One of the worst I've ever seen.
                      D. If ANYONE thought the stall smelled bad (17 y/o, mom, even sister), they could have picked up a pitchfork.

                      Unfortunately, the REAL truth rarely gets around.

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                      • #91
                        Originally posted by SBT
                        So do I. But you and I both know how the truth can be twisted. In this case, the TRUTH is as follows:

                        A. This isn't a "fancy," full-care barn
                        B. 17y/o's horse was in the stall because that's where 17 y/o put it. It WAS out on pasture for the day, but 17 y/o brought it in...and left it in.
                        C. 17 y/o's horse is a PIG. One of the worst I've ever seen.
                        D. If ANYONE thought the stall smelled bad (17 y/o, mom, even sister), they could have picked up a pitchfork.

                        Unfortunately, the REAL truth rarely gets around.
                        I'm always frustrated by these posts where we're fed portions of a story bit by bit in order to sway the group opinion in favor of the OP. If the stall smelled, it smelled. That's all you told us she said. Not, "This place stinks" or "The care here really sucks." And if boarders can't have extra hay, can they help themselves to shavings or straw or whatever you bed with? My guess is no. If the horse is in a nasty stall, what good will mucking it do without the ability to add new bedding? Are there rubber mats? Or would the horse be standing on hard ground once the wet and funky bedding is removed? It is clear, SBT, that you don't like the sister in this scenario. What good does telling a whole bb about her do you? All you've told me is that there is at least one stinky stall at the barn you board and work at and that the horses don't have free choice hay throughout the night. Oh, and there is a Hay Nazi who will jump you if you dare to step out of line. (That last sentence was really a joke. I just couldn't help myself. sorry.)
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                        • #92
                          Originally posted by MistyBlue
                          Well, not to argue and not to "down" any barns...but if my horse is in for the day due to any reason, that stall should be cleaned more than once in 24 hours. Resp issues come from fumes. And I don't want my horses' hay thrown on the floor of a manure filled stall...otherwise I might as well just buy wormer and throw it right out again for all the affect it will have. If the barn is full care, then stalls cleaned more than once in 24 hours if they're inside for the day. JMO. If it's partial or rough board, then if the owner doesn't like the stall's condition the owner should be able to find the muck bucket and forks.
                          The OP has already stated that the boarders are well aware the stalls are cleaned every AM and that any additional stall cleanings the owner is responsible for. Nothing wrong with that. Sounds like her barn is more a partial care barn, helps keep costs down for those of us on a tight budget.

                          SBT you could board at my barn any time. If someone came in bad mouthing my place and my boarders didn't stick up for me I'd be really dissapointed. Feeding extra hay when you're not suppose to drives up costs for the BO, which in turn drives up board.

                          And for those who feel a horse has to have hay 24/7, you can pay the vet bills for my sisters pony when she founders. You just walk past her stall with hay and she gains weight. A fat horse IS NOT a healthy horse.

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                          • #93
                            Again, how does stating that a stall smells equate to bad mouthing the barn?
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                            • #94
                              Mind your own business

                              First of all, I'd mind my own business. I certainly would not tell the B.O.
                              Nobody likes a rat...of the human version. Its not going to do any good except make yourself look like the barn gossiper.

                              Secondly, I'd be pretty pissed off if another boarder TOLD ME to put away the hay!!! You have no business telling another boarder what they should or should not be doing. That is up to the B.O. and workers.
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                              • #95
                                Originally posted by Huntertwo
                                First of all, I'd mind my own business. I certainly would not tell the B.O.
                                Nobody likes a rat...of the human version. Its not going to do any good except make yourself look like the barn gossiper.

                                Secondly, I'd be pretty pissed off if another boarder TOLD ME to put away the hay!!! You have no business telling another boarder what they should or should not be doing. That is up to the B.O. and workers.

                                She is a worker.

                                On the other hand...wouldn't you get ticked if some stranger, not a boarder wastes the recourses of the barn and in turn causes your barn rules to be changed or board to go up? I'd be p*ssed!

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                                • #96
                                  she DOES work there.

                                  And the fact the kid put the horse in the stall---they can't complain that the stall is a mess.

                                  And feeding hay on your own? Most boarding barns are not that happy about boarders just feeding extra hay when they want to---very hard to manage your hay supply and boarding fees when people willy nilly take it upon themselves to help themselves to the feed. It sounds like the horse gets plenty of food---and if she had left the horse out, he'd be eating grass. Why bring the horse in anyway?

                                  I think sbt had every right to not be so happy with pissy lady---she walked in, and didn't know the situation. And sadly because she own or works at a tack shop, she could be in a position to diss the barn--where she doesn't know the workings of it.

                                  She sounds like a reasonable person, well spoken, and no, we will never know the true story, but it sounds plausible and her explanations are sound. I say you did the right thing in your comments---certainly let the BO know about the situation. The fact the mom came to the barn's defense to her own sister says a lot about how full of crap the sister is. Just saying.
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                                  • #97
                                    HUH?

                                    Originally posted by JackieBlue
                                    Maybe I'll get flamed here, but if I went to visit a barn and the stalls smelled and horses were consistantly standing around without hay, that's exactly what I would tell someone if they asked me about it.
                                    Did I miss where it was confirmed that the stall "reeked" and the horses are always standing around with not hay?

                                    "Your" smells bad isn't "my" smells bad. And how do you know that this piggy horse's stall always has an 'odor'. I have one horse that is pure pig and I do clean it thoroughly every day and he stays out more hours than he's in. Trust me, he stall stinks compared to the rest.

                                    I've worked in a mid-high end tack shop as well as the dink feed store I help out in. I know all about the whole tack shop gossip thing. If I'm asked, I answer as honestly as possible, OR I just keep my mouth shut. Any way, tack shop owners and/or employees are hardly the BBB or a referal service!

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                                    • #98
                                      What is a minimal care barn? I don't think I ever want to keep my horse at a barn like that. I know somebody said only barns on the A circuit get cleaned more than once a day but surely horses deserve clean stalls even if they aren't on the A circuit. All horses deserve high quality care in my opinion.

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                                      • #99
                                        Actually, this is a good point. If I knew my horse was going to be in all day, I would expect to clean it out myself a second time. I would only expect the barn staff to do it if we had talked about it ahead of time. I wouldn't expect full care to cover this unless they were keeping my horse in when he should be out.
                                        Agreed. I think I typed my post a tad odd. If the BO or BM put the horse in themselves when it should be out and there is full care board, I'd hope the stall would be cleaned a second time. If the horse was in due to the boarder putting it in or the board was partial board, then I would hope the horse's owner would clean the stall more than once in 24 hours for their own horse's comfort and health. In this situation, it doesn't sound like teh barn's issue but the horse owner's issue they created themselves. Back when I was boarding, if my horses were in due to weather or injury, I always cleaned their stalls at least one extra time each day to avoid fumes, excess manure, bedding waste and other boarders having to smell the stink of my stalls. I would be royally cheesed at any boarder where I was a working that kept putting their horse in and letting that stall get filthy.
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                                        • Originally posted by lilblackhorse
                                          she DOES work there.

                                          And the fact the kid put the horse in the stall---they can't complain that the stall is a mess.

                                          And feeding hay on your own? Most boarding barns are not that happy about boarders just feeding extra hay when they want to---very hard to manage your hay supply and boarding fees when people willy nilly take it upon themselves to help themselves to the feed. It sounds like the horse gets plenty of food---and if she had left the horse out, he'd be eating grass. Why bring the horse in anyway?

                                          I think sbt had every right to not be so happy with pissy lady---she walked in, and didn't know the situation. And sadly because she own or works at a tack shop, she could be in a position to diss the barn--where she doesn't know the workings of it.

                                          She sounds like a reasonable person, well spoken, and no, we will never know the true story, but it sounds plausible and her explanations are sound. I say you did the right thing in your comments---certainly let the BO know about the situation. The fact the mom came to the barn's defense to her own sister says a lot about how full of crap the sister is. Just saying.
                                          Didn't realize she was a worker there. My B.O. doesn't mind if the horses have all the hay they want, as long as they finish it and don't waste it.

                                          I still don't think the statements were *that bad* to report it to the B.O.
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