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  • Riding in the Caribbean?

    My parents are taking our family on a Caribbean cruise for christmas (crazy cool huh?). We will be visiting Princess Cays, St Maarten, St Thomas and Grand Turk. I want to go riding while I'm there, but can't seem to find much info. Only place I have found is http://www.baysideridingclub.com/index.html and they haven't gotten back to me about their weight limit (bf is a big linebacker type guy, and I think he might be too big). Any info would be great.

    Thanks!

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    Great place. There are two places to ride on St. Martin, one on the dutch side and one on the french. Bayside is on the french side and is definately the better of the two. The one on the dutch side is in a very industrial area. DD went to Bayside on the french side of the island while we were there and had a GREAT time.

    Keep trying to reach them but remember that they work on "island time". Also, if they are out on rides there is no one to answer the phone - it is pretty laid back. Depending on how your BF is actually built (please don't take offense - I don't mean any) they may make an exception. Their posted weight limit is 200 or 225 I think. We had some friends with us and the husband is a big, solid guy. He is about 6'3" and maybe 230 - 240. They put him on a larger boned horse and let him go on the group ride.

    Group rides are only walking rides though. If you want to do more than walk you need to book a private ride. DD went on a private ride and got to do it all. Trot, canter, swim, etc. I even have the obligatory picture of her cantering up the beach. Have a great time on your vacation.

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      Thanks for the info, he's a big solid 220, I'll have to make sure he would be ok, would hate to leave him behind

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      • #4
        Also check thru the shore excursions that Princess has. Their reputation rides on you having a good experience so they are good at "vetting" the local businesses for tourists. Not to mention they will get you there and back and feed you! If you look on the Princess website you should find all the information you want, and they will even contact the business to check up on just these types of questions for you.

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        • #5
          Sounds like fun! Definitely check through the cruise line first. It may be more expensive but...there are a few perks from booking through the cruise. Like the ship will stay if your excursion runs late. It won't if you booked privately. Have fun though, I'm so jealous!

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            My only suggestion: if the horses look like crap, turn around and walk away. Giving money to people who neglect their horses will not cause them to take better care of them (there are places all over the world that don't take care of their horses, not just the caribbean, but because of a big tourism industry there are some people who will take advantage).

            Hubby has a terrifying story of riding down south when he was really young. Half way down the trail the skinny nag he was on lay down and gave birth to an aborted foal, then the guys made her get up and continue on down the trail.
            "For some people it's not enough to just be a horse's bum, you have to be sea biscuit's bum" -anon.
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              My experience was different on St Maarten. Bayside hired a guy who was soooo full of himself. I did not like him. We had hired them for a private ride. When we showed up, he said that since we were going to "go very fast" that DH was too heavy. Now, yes, I am a very good rider and DH is not so bad. However, I did not want to go very fast. This guide had been fired from the place on the Dutch side because he was so full of himself.
              The Dutch side is run by a guy with a dressage background. He is REALLY nice and very knowledgeable. However, the place is in a very industrial area. You have to go through that. BUT, the areas they take you are beautiful.

              I do NOT recommend going through the cruise line. They tack on a huge amount of money that does NOT go to the horse business but to the cruise line themselves. Both Bayside and Lucky Stables are great and have been around for a long time. I wish I could remember the name of the guy at Bayside. As long as you don't get him, Bayside is good too.
              I go to St Maarten every year and have always found time to ride while there.

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              • #8
                We were lucky to get one of the two girls that runs the place. They were the only ones that I saw there that day. She let DD ride at whatever pace she was comfortable with. When she wanted to trot, they trotted and when it opened up on the beach they were able to go for a good canter.

                The horses and ponies that we saw there were well taken care of. They were not fat by any means but they were in good, trim shape. Bayside would probably be about a 30 - 40 ride from where your cruise ship is going to dock.

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                  Originally posted by mjrtango93 View Post
                  Also check thru the shore excursions that Princess has. Their reputation rides on you having a good experience so they are good at "vetting" the local businesses for tourists. Not to mention they will get you there and back and feed you! If you look on the Princess website you should find all the information you want, and they will even contact the business to check up on just these types of questions for you.
                  I have checked through princess, and the only one I found was the one mentioned above, and they charge way more for it.

                  Originally posted by Nes View Post
                  My only suggestion: if the horses look like crap, turn around and walk away. Giving money to people who neglect their horses will not cause them to take better care of them (there are places all over the world that don't take care of their horses, not just the caribbean, but because of a big tourism industry there are some people who will take advantage).

                  Hubby has a terrifying story of riding down south when he was really young. Half way down the trail the skinny nag he was on lay down and gave birth to an aborted foal, then the guys made her get up and continue on down the trail.
                  Eeek...I totally agree. That's why I've been kind of hesitant because I have seen pics of horses that were not taken care of on these kinds of things...

                  Originally posted by chancellor2 View Post
                  The Dutch side is run by a guy with a dressage background. He is REALLY nice and very knowledgeable. However, the place is in a very industrial area. You have to go through that. BUT, the areas they take you are beautiful.

                  I do NOT recommend going through the cruise line. They tack on a huge amount of money that does NOT go to the horse business but to the cruise line themselves. Both Bayside and Lucky Stables are great and have been around for a long time. I wish I could remember the name of the guy at Bayside. As long as you don't get him, Bayside is good too.
                  I go to St Maarten every year and have always found time to ride while there.
                  I will look into Lucky Stables, thanks!

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                    Lucky Stables

                    I know this is an old thread, but might as well keep the reviews together. I went on a vacation last week and got to ride at Lucky Stables. Short story: the horses are in good condition and yes I have pictures (pro shots so they might be large). In honor of COTH habits, I'll touch on some of our favorite nerve-rawing points.

                    The horses were all of good weight to plump. The tack was beat up synthetic - anyone here want to send leather tack out into the sea 2-3 times per day? Some had small white spots on their backs from too-tight gullets. My experience is that it is hard to keep a Carribean horse's weight constant because of the wet season-dry season annual swing, plus the difficulty in getting consistent (or any) hay. I had a wintec with changeable gullet on a Paso phenotype horse, and could never get it to fit him in back. I got Hoover a custom fit leather saddle and he has plumped up enough to give himself small white spots from the custom. So yes, I can sympathize and live with the small white spots I saw since I saw no sores or galls.

                    Some hooves looked very good and some shod hooves were a bit long. I mentioned that I trim my own guy and the woman in charge joked that a few horses had dates with the farrier, did I want to shoe them? No one had large flares or obvious problems, we've seen similar posted routinely on the boards. There are around 200 horse owners on the islands, so I wouldn't think there is a wide choice in farriers.


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                    Muneca and I heading out. She is a full Paso Fino. That is a sweet iron bit. I gasped when I saw it and ran my finger inside, but it had rusted to a smooth finish as sweet iron is designed to do. She had a motor so I just rode on a looped rein and neckreined.
                    HAS provides hospital care to 340,000 people in Haiti's Artibonite Valley 24/7/365/earthquake/cholera/whatever.
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                      more news and more pictures

                      This was a walking ride only - with a private ride you can do more gaits, frankly the beach wasn't long or wide enough for a large group to go cantering together. The trail is somewhat steep but nothing a sound horse can't handle. The footing was good, better than in the mountains around here. Muneca got to show me her largo a few times anyway. Niiice! Wish my Hoover had that installed.

                      The beach ride was out in the water. The other horses were willing enough to go out wither deep. Muneca minded but clearly wasn't comfortable being as far out as the others. She was at least a hand shorter and was carrying a higher % of her body weight, so no surprise that depth and waves were a bigger issue for her. If we got deep she tried to cut in shoreside and use the horse in front as a breakwater, smart girl! So we stayed in shallower water. I did get her caught oceanside of another horse once trying to get through traffic as we toodled around, and she had to prop to bodysurf an incoming wave. I gave her a break on the beach before going back in and she was willing to go back, after asking if I really wanted her to and if I'd gotten a clue!

                      If you really want to practically swim with your mount, ask for one of the taller and heavier horses. If you've never tried a Paso and would like to, this would be a good chance. Just ask.

                      Yes, a couple of the horses did poop in the water as a reflex from the cold water. Just dodge the floaties and go somewhere else!

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ID:	9138304 The float belt shows off my vacation-aquired buffet paunch. Hoover will be free lunging ME to get that off before he lets me ride him again!
                      HAS provides hospital care to 340,000 people in Haiti's Artibonite Valley 24/7/365/earthquake/cholera/whatever.
                      www.hashaiti.org blog:http://hashaiti.org/blog

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