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  • #81
    King something (or something King) is asking about whether what was in the USOC report was true -- AB is asking him to come back with specifics at Saturday meeting
    Nothing says "I love you" like a tractor. (Clydejumper)

    The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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    • #82
      King Penniman (sp) now says that from what he has read, the USOC is not on the USAE's side "they think we are buffoons..." Who is right?

      AB responds that every single action that USAE has taken has been considered, consistent and proper... however, USOC has been somewhat inconsistent

      Then KP asks is it true that we will raise the membership fees to cover expenses of intl./elite group

      AB says dues have not been raised since 96, may in fact be possible that dues will be raised

      Finance committee will report later in the mtg.

      AB says if there are particular concerns about ANYTHING done in response to USOC docs, the specific request will be addressed immediately

      I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
      Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
      \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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      • #83
        Now reviewing proposed constitutional amendments

        will allow time to read each one, does not think they will be controversial...

        I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
        Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
        \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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        • #84
          http://www.equestrian.org/Equestrian...-1-16-2002.pdf
          Mal:This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then .... explode

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          • #85
            Sam Barish asks abouts proposed paid CEO position - what would they do versus what the president would do
            Nothing says "I love you" like a tractor. (Clydejumper)

            The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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            • #86
              Dr. Barish is asking about the position of paid CEO and how that relates to the position of president and possibly the exec director

              AB responds they are trying to clear the way for a CEO to succeed him

              No one should be expected to do this job without compensation, as it has grown to be a considerable, complex position

              I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
              Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
              \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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              • #87
                Roos says board can choose to select a CEO - this would be a hired professional

                Can be someone other than the president

                I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                • #88
                  CEO reports to president,
                  president's duties do not change, continues to preside over mtgs etc

                  I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                  Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                  \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                  • #89
                    Bill Roos explains that currently we have President/CEO - that if president chooses to hire ceo then the duties will be seperated but that ceo will report to president

                    Barish says that the proposal does not state this and wants to be sure that paid ceo would not be running the organization
                    Nothing says "I love you" like a tractor. (Clydejumper)

                    The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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                    • #90
                      Barish says he sees no problem bringing another person in, his concern is that this is a volunteer organization and he thinks it is not a good idea to bring in a paid person

                      I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                      Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                      \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                      • #91
                        AB says this will be looked at later, after counsel reviews language of proposal

                        Someone is mad that this has to wait for later

                        I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                        Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                        \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                        • #92
                          Several want to discuss the provisions so that will be held out for more discussion later
                          Nothing says "I love you" like a tractor. (Clydejumper)

                          The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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                          • #93
                            KP asks what is an ASO and do any of our affiliates meet this criteria

                            AB says this is a USOC term amateur sports org and currently none of our affiliates meet the def. as it is written

                            To do with the development of elite athletes

                            I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                            Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                            \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                            • #94
                              question: what is an ASO
                              answer: Amateur sports ORganization

                              there are specific requirements to be considered as such
                              Nothing says "I love you" like a tractor. (Clydejumper)

                              The reports states, “Elizabeth reported that she accidently put down this pony, ........, at the show.”

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                              • #95
                                There is a question - if necessary, this provision says the officers could increase the number of board members?

                                Roos says this allows board members to propose amendments, not to make the decision independently.

                                Done because per USOC, new qualified ASOs could arise, and have to be included on the board once they become qualified. This gives the board a mechanism to extend a seat to a new ASO

                                I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                                Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                                \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                                • #96
                                  ASO is not nec. the same as an FEI affiliate. Also not the same as the discipline orgs (USET term)

                                  This is just a PROCESS

                                  I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                                  Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                                  \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                                  • #97
                                    KP questions whether the terms for committee members put USAE out of compliance with USOC

                                    AB responds that it does not, he feels that four year terms work for quad cycles but that any affiliate can decide for themselves what term they wish to adopt, as long as they do it upfront and the appointee agrees

                                    I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                                    Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                                    \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                                    • #98
                                      Returns to art 5 sec 3

                                      Jeane Malone asks why the def. of exec director being redefined, why is there no asst director

                                      I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                                      Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                                      \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                                      • #99
                                        There is discussion about whether the size of the organization requires additional staff?

                                        I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies.
                                        Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
                                        \"It\'s a funny thing about life: If you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.\" ---W. Somerset Maugham

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                                        • #100
                                          Liverpool, you are the Queen of Comms!! I'm listening and you are doing such a great job - I keep bluescreening, myself. :P
                                          "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."--Lt. Gen. David Morrison, Austalian Army Chief

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