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  • Pretty Good Scam E-mail!!!

    I just got a scam e-mail with no mention of Nigeria! I have some ads up for our BO as she does not have a computer and here is what I received:

    Hello,
    I'm Mr John Hill from Isle of Man,UK.I'm very glad that you do currently have stall boarding Space Available,I will like to bring my horse along with me on my vacation in the States and at the same time I'll like to have my horse in your Full board for Regular Service for 2 months (including twice a day feeding of quality grass or alfalfa hay. Stalls cleaned once a day, new shavings). I like you to know that my horse "Dream" is 4 yrs old, 15.2hh,has a loving disposition, and has lots of ground work. A nice gelding who still has earning potential at the smaller tracks.He is quite easy going, catches well,loads,trims...Well-behaved.

    I will ship my horse from Isle of man to a local quarantine facility this month for one month and will be coming to your farm in late May. I will need you to keep a board available for my horse and I will talk more better with you prior our arrival to your farm. As you know that my horse must have Coggins test result and Health certificate before accepting him into your farm.I'm sure that you understand that dealing with owners involves special considerations, well beyond talking on phone or email. I am happy to talk more better with you when arriving at your location in May.

    The health certificate is available which I will send to you later.Also,coggins test result will be sent to you before our arrival to your farm. Shipping date verified by the carrier and port of arrival will also be known to you. I believe that as soon as you receive my paperwork and have a verified shipping date, this will guarantee that my horse will have a place reserved at your facility.

    As for the payment, this is what I'm going to do, I want the payment to be paid upfront before our arriving at your farm with my horse. I am paying through my Financier please bear with me. I just had a talk with my financial institution over there in the U.S and he would be happy to send you a U.S certified bank check for payment that would cover the 2 months. I hope you understand that I want the payment to be with you by next week, so I will want you to provide me with the name that will be on check and full contact address to
    which the check will be mailed to and your phone number both home and office so that I can forward that to my financial institution to have the check sent to you on my behalf.

    I await to hear back from you regarding the full information and your total charges for 2 months to have my horse in your Full board.Thank you and hope to hear from you soon.
    John.
    No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
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    Originally posted by dghunter View Post
    I will like to bring my horse along with me on my vacation in the States and at the same time I'll like to have my horse in your Full board for Regular Service for 2 months (including twice a day feeding of quality grass or alfalfa hay. Stalls cleaned once a day, new shavings). I like you to know that my horse "Dream" is 4 yrs old, 15.2hh,has a loving disposition, and has lots of ground work. A nice gelding who still has earning potential at the smaller tracks.He is quite easy going, catches well,loads,trims...Well-behaved.
    Sorry, but I disagree with you. Anyone with horse knowledge who reads this description of the horse would know it was a scam.

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    • #3
      Call me stupid, but... where exactly is the scam?

      He's proposing sending money to you, for the price of board (not sending "too much" and asking you to return the difference like most scams).

      It's strange and sounds incredibly unlikely, but I don't to see how this could in any way result in you (or any recipient of this email) to be scammed out of money...

      Can someone explain??

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        #4
        Originally posted by chaltagor View Post
        Sorry, but I disagree with you. Anyone with horse knowledge who reads this description of the horse would know it was a scam.
        By pretty good scam I more meant that the English isn't overly atrocious as normal scams are and there's actually mention of normal horse stuff (ie boarding) instead of the normal ones we get which are always "I'm from Nigeria and just came into 1.2 million dollars and need someone to keep it safe for me in their bank account" etc...

        Yes it is clearly a scam and anyone with some knowledge would see it but no mention of Nigeria and bank accounts?!
        No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
        For Hope, For Strength, For Life-Delta Gamma
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lazy Palomino Hunter View Post
          Call me stupid, but... where exactly is the scam?

          He's proposing sending money to you, for the price of board (not sending "too much" and asking you to return the difference like most scams).

          It's strange and sounds incredibly unlikely, but I don't to see how this could in any way result in you (or any recipient of this email) to be scammed out of money...

          Can someone explain??
          The, "Oh by the way I sent too much money, can you send the extra to my shipper" line will definately come if the OP continues to play along. The scammers are learning that people have caught on and are changing the game plan a bit, but the results are always the same.
          "Is it ignorance or apathy? Hey, I don't know and I don't care." ~Jimmy Buffett

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          • #6
            I got the same email a couple of days ago and I also got it last year and put it on the "I'm A BNT" scammer thread.

            I have just been too busy to play with the scammers this time.
            Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.
            Bernard M. Baruch

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              #7
              Originally posted by Amwrider View Post
              I got the same email a couple of days ago and I also got it last year and put it on the "I'm A BNT" scammer thread.

              I have just been too busy to play with the scammers this time.
              Since I have a week off in between finals and summer classes I was considering playing with one of them for something to do I'll have to go read your thread
              No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
              For Hope, For Strength, For Life-Delta Gamma
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              • #8
                DON'T DO IT!!

                Even responding to these people opens the door to your personal information! Seach the threads here - I posted the exact same alert a few months back - total SCAM!! They'll send you a check for a huge amount of money that you are supposed to wire to the hauler. Once you deposit the check and wire the money, the bank comes back and tells you it's bad. YOU have to pay the bank the money!!

                If you're really willing to part with the money, just send it to me!
                "A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority." Rick Warren

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                • #9
                  You really must read Amwrider's scammer thread from last year - it read like a soap opera - people dying under mysterious circumstances and (if I remember correctly) a possible mafia connection - hilarious

                  I am now a BNT !!! * * they just don't learn, do they?
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                  • #10
                    Amwrider's thread was indeed hilarious--I loved it.

                    At least in this new one, they seem to have learned a LITTLE bit. At lease his didn't call the horse "the product".

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                    • #11
                      E-mail him a contract for the horse (make the horse a Breyer horse, he won't know he difference). Tell him he has to sign it and send it back to you overnight since you will be going out of town or something like that. He will waste his money overnighting it to you. But, oh no, you never got the contract and he needs to send another.
                      The virtual "woodshed" seems the only remedy for willful fools .

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                      • #12
                        I wouldn't play with them, but there have been some hilarious threads here and elsewhere with scambaiters.

                        My personal favorite is the Order of the Painted Breast - it doesn't involve horses, but the circus comes into play near the end:

                        http://www.419eater.com/html/joe_eboh.htm
                        Delicious strawberry flavored death!

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                          #13
                          Haha no worries I wasn't going to actually take any money or anything Though that contract thing sounds like it could be a riot! Amwrider, your thread was HILLARIOUS!!!
                          No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
                          For Hope, For Strength, For Life-Delta Gamma
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                          • #14
                            While clearly a scam, I agree with you that it is written much better than the usual scam! They actually did some homework. Grass and alfalfa hay. Stall cleaned with new shavings. Coggins, health certificate. The 15.2 gelding who is still winning at the local tracks, but who is going to vacation with his owner in the states is a little much. The English is still bad, but no glaring errors. It might just catch someone! I also wouldn't play with them. As soon as you respond, they now know it is a working e-mail address and may try harder to hack into your computer or something. Just delete.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by avezan View Post
                              While clearly a scam, I agree with you that it is written much better than the usual scam! They actually did some homework. Grass and alfalfa hay. Stall cleaned with new shavings. Coggins, health certificate. The 15.2 gelding who is still winning at the local tracks, but who is going to vacation with his owner in the states is a little much. The English is still bad, but no glaring errors. It might just catch someone! I also wouldn't play with them. As soon as you respond, they now know it is a working e-mail address and may try harder to hack into your computer or something. Just delete.
                              Hmm I never thought about them trying to hack a computer... Good point. Yes they brought up some actual horsey terms! Who knew?
                              No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
                              For Hope, For Strength, For Life-Delta Gamma
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