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  • What a spot to be in! upsetting

    I call my dad each evening before I go to work as that is the only chance I get to talk to them. Well last evening I asked if anything exciting had gone on durning the day and...

    I guess he was visiting friends in the area and the wife came running to the house yelling HORSES which everyone sitting at the table took as odd as no one owns any close by. They ran outside to find a runaway team running in the yard taking out trees and anything in their way. They were finally stopped by a tree caught between them.

    My dad has owned horses all his life so was able to help somewhat. He grabbed one of the tangled horses and a young boy (15 or so) grabbed the other while the father picked himself out of the rode. I guess things went from bad to worse there as they were untangling the team one decided to start kicking and the boy was kicked several times including in the face.

    The boy was unable to help the father bring the horses home so my dad walked one home atleast a couple of miles. Sadly one horse broke his eye socket and the other had some deep wounds. The father stated that the horses would be on the trailer that night and to a local slaughter buyer.

    I guess this was not the first time that they ranaway. My dad later found out that he did load the team and was headed towards the buyers place. I guess the boy was ok just really bruised.

    I just thought I would share this with everyone. I don't know the owner or any history about the horses. So I don't really know what made him decide that slaughter was the answer.

  • #2
    Interesting indeed. I don't know the background either, but will hazard an answer that will probably get me flamed (but I don't care, obviously or I would just keep quiet.)

    In my experience, there are many people who enjoy the idea that they have the power of life and death over some other living creature.

    Sometimes out of anger or spite, they choose to exercise their power.

    Or maybe the man just feels these horses are a danger, and he does not want to feel responsible for them hurting someone else BUT he doesn't want to or believes he can't afford to spend the money to have them euthanized. By sending them to slaughter, he gets "something" for them AND he absolves himself of the responsibility of selling them to someone else, whom they may hurt.

    Of course, one has to wonder if they just need more training or training by someone more knowledgeable.

    At any rate, by selling them to slaughter, he avoids any vet expenses to repair the injured eye and the deep cuts. But actually with an eye injury and deep cuts, neither one sounds like meets the USDA requirements for slaughterbound horses -- but then again, the slaughter pipline asks no questions and is notorious for NOT following regulations.

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    • #3
      Sorry your Dad had to deal with this.
      It was upsetting to me just to read it!

      But maybe it had not such an unhappy ending?
      Surely the owner was shaken and speaking in the heat of passion - team ran off on him, his son was injured....

      He must have felt pretty awful to be responsible for any of this.

      I am a total newbie driver and have been told once a team has run off they may not be safe to hitch ever again.

      Your Dad did all he could.
      Hopefully the owner reconsidered, but if not, sometimes horses suffer for the owner's mistakes.
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      • #4
        makes me question why they felt the need to run away.
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        • #5
          Sorry your dad had to deal with this incident. It's a good thing nobody was seriously injured.

          Now: When one of my brood cows is no longer serviceable; when she either stops having calves or she develops a bad temperament, she's sent to the auction.

          If those horses were deemed no longer serviceable, sending them to the auction is one reasonable option for the owner to exercise.
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          • #6
            Since none of us were there, and we are not him, we have no idea...

            but I wish he had chosen to euthanize them instead.
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            • #7
              A horse with no known medical issues but a penchant for bucking like all Holy Hell when the mood strikes, busts loose under Susie. Susie's a good rider, she didn't do a thing to set him off. One minute he's loping soft circles, the next, his head disappears. He bucked her off so hard, and she hit so hard, she had to go to the Dr to address the black and purple bruising and huge hematomas on her lower back and butt.

              Susie's brother, the horses owner, has ridden this horse and tried to get him sorted out. It ain't happening. Seeing his sister, again- an able rider, piled up and lucky to be alive...promptly shoots and kills said horse. One shot, you're outta here, jacka$$.

              OK by me. You can't save 'em all and it's his property. Within reason, and responsible, to end it right there.

              Horses are not more sacred than people, folks. I hope that little boy is ok, and Dad, too.

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              • #8
                I hope they're both okay, too, but I don't think the jump to slaughter is the answer. There are other jobs available out there, you know.
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                • #9
                  If they are big drafts and spook like that, then there is no other answer. That and they kicked the son. Which would piss off any parent. They are driving horses and if they are huge spookers like that, then off they go.
                  The saving grace would be if they were a sport model. I'm pretty sure that's how I got Winston. He's a big spooker with lots of scars. But he's a cross bred so this outfit picked him up to give him a new career. And then onto me. But honestly, if he was an 18h draft, he would not be manageable.
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                  • #10
                    Sounds like the son could just as easily be killed I hope his injuries are real bad!!! Not unusual for livestock thats a big problem and a threat to people to go to slaughter at all my neighbor just sent a bull their that was mean.
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                    • #11
                      I don't see what the big deal is with sending dangerous horses to slaughter. It is better than letting them hurt someone else.

                      Don't get me wrong, I love my horses and I happily pay to keep all my retired ones, with the best of medical care, until they die of old age. But if they were dangerous, they would go. And I don't particularly care where.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho" View Post
                        makes me question why they felt the need to run away.
                        Horses spook. End of statement. And once they've got their hind ends tucked under and in gear, it's not so easy to stop them. And if they weigh a ton a piece, it's quite the feat to stop them! That goes for riding horses as well as driving horses.

                        Yes, there are some bad horses out there who have learned to bolt to avoid work. But one runaway does not necessarily ruin a team (or a ridden horse).

                        In this case, I feel sorry for all of them -- horses, people, helpers, observers.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by katarine View Post
                          ...promptly shoots and kills said horse. One shot, you're outta here, jacka$$.

                          OK by me. You can't save 'em all and it's his property. Within reason, and responsible, to end it right there.

                          Horses are not more sacred than people, folks. I hope that little boy is ok, and Dad, too.
                          Yes but shooting one is MUCH different than sending it off to slaughter! Shooting one dead in one shot is equivalent to euthanizing them-they don't know what happened-no suffering involved. Of course, a misplaced bullet could be awful but hopefully a good marksman would correct his error very quickly and the suffering would be much less than that endured on the road to slaughter.

                          I would think the horses were at least worth a bullet - any horse is at least worth a bullet right? Sure, you have to pay to replace the bullet and deal with the body removal but slaughter is certainly a harsh sentence even if the horses were truly dangerous.

                          I hope everyone is ok and I hope the horses didn't take that trailer ride...
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