• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Very cool horse photo from 1864!

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Very cool horse photo from 1864!

    http://www.shorpy.com/node/5437

    You can enlarge it and see incredible detail!
    I wonder what breed the horse is? Looks quite "Morganish" to me. And what on earth tack does he have on? Pretty cool!
    www.sauconycreeksporthorses.com
    Dedicated to breeding Friesian Sporthorses
    with world class pedigrees and sport suitability

  • #2
    What a great find. I agree the horse looks like a Morgan or something similar.
    www.laurienberenson.com

    Comment


    • #3
      1864? Wow! One thing I always look at is the feet....and for 1864 I think this horse looks fab! Front and back shoes et al!

      I also agree - Morgan (ish). He's got a surcingle on with what looks like a driving whip hanging from it so maybe it's part of a harness? Not sure but he's definitely a he!

      Very cool photo! I love the guy looking at horse and the horse looking at the camera!!

      Thanks for sharing!!
      Lord Stanely, Lord Stanley - come back to Pittsburgh!!!
      http://www.chronicleofmyhorse.com/profile/2_tbs
      *** I LOVE PUIKA FAN CLUB***

      Comment


      • #4
        Beautiful photo. He seems very slim width-wise. Doesn't have the wide chest or separation between the hinds that many modern horses do.

        Comment


        • #5
          That camera would have needed a long exposure. That horse stood rock still for his portrait.

          I love looking at what kind of horses people rode when it really mattered. I am surprised his mane is so long. But at that time the war had not gotten very ugly? They still had picnics while watching the battles so a war horse was like a show horse but the prizes were. . . . er. . . . more important?

          Comment


          • #6
            Fantastic photo! Seriously nice detail for a photo so old. And a lovely lovely horse.
            I love looking at old photos...makes me wonder what that person was thinking and doing that day so very long ago.
            You jump in the saddle,
            Hold onto the bridle!
            Jump in the line!
            ...Belefonte

            Comment


            • #7
              What a gorgeous horse! I wonder if the man in the picture new people would be admiring his horse 140 years later!!!
              "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

              Comment


              • #8
                What an interesting photo.

                I would guess Tennessee Walker.

                Comment


                • #9
                  For a war horse he sure does shine! I imagine that at times water was a very rare and precious commodity so elbow grease was the order of the day.

                  Looks like a Morgan or "saddlebred type." By saddlebred I don't mean the ASB of today but a "type" of horse bred mainly in the south for comfort on long rides with stamina and stoutness. He resembles many of the "light draught" types now popular for riding, like Fresian or Irish crosses.

                  That is a gorgous photo. Thank you for posting it.
                  F O.B
                  Resident racing historian ~~~ Re-riders Clique
                  Founder of the Mighty Thoroughbred Clique

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    I love old photos too!

                    Here's some other cool ones from the same website:

                    http://www.shorpy.com/node/4954
                    http://www.shorpy.com/node/4899
                    http://www.shorpy.com/node/4536
                    http://www.shorpy.com/node/1720
                    http://www.shorpy.com/node/1633
                    http://www.shorpy.com/node/242
                    http://www.shorpy.com/node/3633

                    Many of the other photos of horses on the site show dramatically how much easier they have it today.....
                    www.sauconycreeksporthorses.com
                    Dedicated to breeding Friesian Sporthorses
                    with world class pedigrees and sport suitability

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Did you see this one?

                      http://www.shorpy.com/node/2126?size=_original
                      "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        That is WAY cool!! Definitely something gaited, but looks Morgan to me, too. I'm not surprised by his condition...war was winding down and the horses were treated infinitely better than the men. I was shocked at what I found when I did some research into it! I am, however, surprised by the mane. I wonder if they did a running braid or kept it confined somehow? It's obviously been brushed through at some point before the photo.

                        If you enlarge it, he's also got a decent sweat on like he was worked just shortly before the photo. You can see his veins in his legs are up, too. His man looks like he's talking to and regarding his "friend" like we do today. Amazing

                        Thanks for sharing! This history/pre-law student who used to do some CW reenacting LOFFS it!!

                        ETA: I also love the fact the old glass plates (esp. the wet plates) are so, so, SO clear!! And the detail they show is amazing....kind of makes you wonder what's happened over the years, doesn't it?
                        "IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jdeboer01 View Post
                          I love old photos too!

                          Here's some other cool ones from the same website:

                          http://www.shorpy.com/node/4954
                          http://www.shorpy.com/node/4899
                          http://www.shorpy.com/node/4536
                          http://www.shorpy.com/node/1720
                          http://www.shorpy.com/node/1633
                          http://www.shorpy.com/node/242
                          http://www.shorpy.com/node/3633

                          Many of the other photos of horses on the site show dramatically how much easier they have it today.....
                          I wonder if the first one is any relation to Tad Coffin?
                          "IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            check out this one of the horse show at The Garden!

                            http://www.shorpy.com/node/4842
                            "You are under arrest for operating your mouth under the influence of
                            ignorance!" Officer Beck

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              The head looks Friesian to me.

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Interesting shoes on these firehorses (guess they weren't pulling on paved roads):

                                http://www.shorpy.com/node/1720

                                And LOVE this shot - very 'artistic':

                                http://www.shorpy.com/node/1633
                                www.moranequinephoto.com
                                "If I am fool, it is, at least, a doubting one; and I envy no one the certainty of his self-approved wisdom."
                                Byron

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by 2 tbs View Post
                                  1864? Wow! One thing I always look at is the feet....and for 1864 I think this horse looks fab! Front and back shoes et al!

                                  I also agree - Morgan (ish). He's got a surcingle on with what looks like a driving whip hanging from it so maybe it's part of a harness? Not sure but he's definitely a he!
                                  It's not a driving whip or bit/ bridle. You see drafts shown in surcingles like that (in Europe anyway) so my guess is that it's some kind of in-hand paraphernalia.

                                  cute horse.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by egontoast View Post
                                    What an interesting photo.

                                    I would guess Tennessee Walker.

                                    I think Walker, also.
                                    "Strength is the capacity to break a chocolate bar into four pieces with your bare hands - and then eat just one of the pieces." Judith Viorst

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      I'd say Walker too judging by the head and neck, looks like an old style plantation walker to me. They were chunkier in build, not so tall as the modern ones today.

                                      BTW - went to a civil war re-enactment with my son Saturday who is a military history major in college. I was amazed at how calm the the horses were with cannons going off, mortars and lots and lots of shooting. It was a reenactment of the Battle of Manassas and the horses were TWHs. Lots of cordite smoke and loud booms, but the horses just stood as they were supposed to. Of course none were right up on the cannons, but were within 250 feet of them, and none broke battle formation and most looked slightly bored with it all. I believe the riders used ear plugs as these horses were used frequently in these types of "battles". I must say the horses did an admirable job of keeping their cool under "fire".

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        That's a terrific photo. I'm guessing Walker.

                                        A friend of mine wrote an excellent book about that battle - and of the significance of horses and cavalry. It was the largest cavalry battle of the Civil War. He also leads a terrific battlefield tour - on horseback of course!

                                        http://www.amazon.com/Brandy-Station.../dp/0786425849

                                        Here is the website for the foundation trying to protect the battlefield.
                                        http://www.brandystationfoundation.c...ter_Jan_07.htm
                                        Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                                        Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                                        -Rudyard Kipling

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X