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CAIR Panels. Look here for an eye opener!

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    #41
    Originally posted by Bogie View Post
    CAIR panels are not air. They are mostly a type of foam. They feel firm.

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    all of the paperwork and pamphlets that came with my saddle when I bought it says the CAIR panels are filled with air.
    "Perhaps the final test of anybody's love of dogs is their willingness to permit them to make a camping ground of the bed" -Henry T. Merwin

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    • #42
      I have a Wintec Pro Jump with CAIR (I also have a Passier GG and Pessoa Legacy XL) the Wintec has been great for the price I paid. I did not expect a custom perfect fit with a saddle I paid $600 for. I've had it for 8 years and I've had no problems with it, I looked into getting it flocked and the saddle fitter told me it wasn't worth it, kinda rude but whatever!
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      • #43
        Right from their website (emphasis added):

        "Fluidly working with your horse’s muscles, the revolutionary CAIR Panel System replaces traditional fillings in your saddle with air. The cushioning nature of air encourages your horse to soften, relax and engage. Seated closer to your horse, you become simply an extension of one another. Transcend into a new world of opportunities through the power of true connection. Empower your horse with the ultimate in comfort, and explore your true potential together with the CAIR Panel System."

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        • Original Poster

          #44
          (apparently we were on the site at the same time FB)

          um yeah, it's air.
          this is off the Bates website under the Caprilli CC section:

          "Fluidly working with your horse’s muscles, the revolutionary CAIR Panel System replaces traditional fillings in your saddle with air. The cushioning nature of air encourages your horse to soften, relax and engage. Seated closer to your horse, you become simply an extension of one another. Transcend into a new world of opportunities through the power of true connection. Empower your horse with the ultimate in comfort, and explore your true potential together with the CAIR Panel System."


          "What is inside an Air Panel?
          The break-through manufacturing method is patented worldwide. The CAIR Air Panels are shaped and refined at the point of manufacture to provide an even thickness throughout the panel. A unique feature of the CAIR Panel System is that the Air Panels are unable to be adjusted, therefore eliminating any opportunity for human error, ultimately affecting performance.

          Air is captured at atmospheric pressure in an open-celled foam and sealed in the Air Panel. Once the air panel is welded the open-celled foam becomes irrelevant, as it is the air trapped in the panel, which is doing the work

          Furthermore, the balance of saddles with the CAIR Panel System is easily altered without compromise to the performance of the air panels"


          and so far I have not seen any photos or demonstrations of the actual panels and certainly nothing that looks like the garbage in the photos I posted tied together with cellophane tape.
          "Perhaps the final test of anybody's love of dogs is their willingness to permit them to make a camping ground of the bed" -Henry T. Merwin

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          • #45
            When I was looking for a saddle for my horse, the saddle fitter's advice was to stay away from CAIR or foam panels because neither one can be molded for each individual horse's back. I found an older wool flocked Wintec and she fitted it on my very hard-to-fit horse. I've bought 3 more saddles since, different brands but all wool flocked, had fitter over to adjust the panels and my horses are very happy. I am glad to have gotten the advice for wool flocked panels in the first place.
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            • #46
              I had a master saddler actually tell me that she liked the CAIR panels for a GROWING horse. One that otherwise would have needed to be adjusted every few months. As soon as my horse stopped growing though, we switched saddles to "real" flocking.
              where are we going, and why am I in this hand basket?

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              • #47
                As visorvet said, some love them, some hate them -- just like with any saddle.

                Who is it who has the sig line, "The Horse World: two people, three opinions."? This is one of those cases where it is all too true.
                "I don't want to sound like a broken record here, but why is it that a woman will forgive homicidal behavior in a horse, yet be highly critical of a man for leaving the toilet seat up?" Dave Barry

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