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  • #41
    Regarding Weatherford's friend with the head injury, I'm not sure about in eventing but I believe in other disciplines and I would imagine probably eventing as well, you can file a request for reasonable accomodation, but I could be wrong. I've never had to deal with a situation like that myself.

    I like the no outside coaching rules, but I do think they should be applied with discretion and perhaps a case involving parents and children should be given a little more leeway. A lot of parents are not up on the rules but think they know how to coach and it sucks for a kid to get disqualified because Mom or Dad didn't read the rulebook and Coach forgot to tell them to be quiet.

    I had a h/j trainer who was big on the whooping and the coaching from the rail, and it drove me nuts. I found it very distracting.
    exploring the relationship between horse and human

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    • #42
      Years ago Pine Hill (Texas) used to hand out "101 Ways to AVoid the Big E"
      about a 5 page summary for newbies. Certainly not all the rules but most of the ones that will get you in trouble! I have saved it all these years but of course now it is obsolete.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by flea View Post
        someone could do that but I have never heard of it happening. Eventers are miles away from being saints but I do not know of anyone who would knowingly pull a stunt like that.
        True story...back in the 'long format' days - ex-girlfriend (of horsie guy) walking the course - new girlfriend...riding the course. On roads and tracks - as NGF rides by...XGF says loudly to companion "that's odd - everyone else was riding in the opposite direction...
        can happen...
        * <-- RR Certified Gold Star {) <-- RR Golden Croissant Award
        Training Tip of the Day: If you can’t beat your best competitor, buy his horse.
        NO! What was the question?

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        • #44
          According to Florida 4-H horse show rules:

          "Assistance or coaching of contestants while competing in a class may warrant penalties or disqualification. No electronic communication devices will be allowed by exhibitors while in the class."

          It is amazing to watch the parents and trainers all biting their tongues during the classes at these shows.

          I also checked my AQHA rule book, and the same rule applies to AQHA shows:

          "If a contestant, while inside the show arena or show ring, is assisted in any manner by another person, the contestant shall automatically be disqualified."
          There are friends and faces that may be forgotten, but there are horses that never will be. - Andy Adams

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Gloria View Post
            I have no clue about eventing world but that rule sounds strange to me. So if I were an eventer, and I wanted to eliminate my toughest competitors, all I needed to do were to yell some instructions when my competitors were going over fences?
            THAT is WHY it is "at the discretion of the GJ".
            Janet

            chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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            • #46
              hayll no it's not too strict

              Regular horse shows are nothing like the FEI riding sports, and the rules (medications, assistance, EVERYTHING) in FEI sports are incredibly strict. All the national federations use basically the same rules as the FEI or they don't get to work in to the FEI competitions and have their teams recognized, develop, etc.

              Those are Olympic and world championship sports, the rules HAVE to be strict or people will be screaming foul all over the place, millions of dollars, careers, reputations and livelihoods are affected, and people better get used to them and make the rules a habit at the early levels.

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              • #47
                I need to print out this thread and give it to one of my lesson kids parents. I took the little girl to her first schooling show (h/j) , spent lots of time in the schooling ring with her, She came out and we talked about things she needed to think about in her classes, I made sure she knew her course etc. She went in and all 3 classes were solid. There were minor mistakes but most of them were things we had been working on at home that just needed a little more polish and that I felt like we could talk about when she came out. If there hads been something major that needed corrected right away like a wrong lead I would have let her know because it was a schooling show. She won 2 classes and was champion in the divison. Now in the walk trot division I was a little more vocal about helping some of the little ones like the one who forgot to change direction with the rest of the class When the bills went out the parent of the little girl who was champion decided she did not have to pay the training fee because I did not coach her child and yell at them during the class like I did the little kids

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                • #48
                  I'm an eventer, and I very much like the no outside assistance rule. Does it catch some people who weren't really trying to do anything wrong? Sure - most rules do.

                  Personally, I warn anyone coming to watch me (who isn't an eventer ) about it beforehand, and tell them that when cheering, it's best to just yell things like "Woo hoo!" Most people understand pretty easily.
                  Proud member of the EDRF

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