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Update FOUND Tb Playacar sold at New Holland 3/16/09

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  • Update FOUND Tb Playacar sold at New Holland 3/16/09

    Here's yet another story about someone giving a horse away with a contract only to find the horse has been sent through an auction.

    I've never seen the horse but I'm told he's a 2002 dark bay gelding with a small star, over 17 hands and in good weight.

    If anyone has any leads, please PM me. The woman who gave him away had inherited him recently and thought she had found him a nice home but the man who took him had him about 10 days before dumping him at New Holland and breaking the contract.

    Update: Playacar has been found. Jack sold him before the sale and was being paid to ship him to TN.
    Last edited by CoolMeadows; Mar. 19, 2009, 09:15 AM.
    Please don't try to be a voice of reason. It's way more fun to spin things out of control. #BecauseCOTH - showhorsegallery

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    How long has he been missing??? Do you have a tattoo number???

    You might get in touch with Lost & Found Rescue and Mid-Atlantic Rescue. There are others that specifically pull TBs from New Holland but I don't remember them all offhand. Might also contact that gal from Another Chance for Horses....

    I know someone who also pulls TBs from there but don't know if she's gone to NH recently. I'll check with her if you can give me a tattoo number it would be helpful.

    Check with May S. who is on the board. She just went to NH on the 16th--said that there weren't many horses there.
    "I'm not much into conspiracy theories but if everyone thinks alike you don't need a plot!" ~person from another bulletin board whose name has been long forgotten~

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      #3
      I don't think it's been more than two weeks since she gave him away and he just went through the auction two days ago. The woman kept the JC papers so I've asked for the number and hopefully will hear back soon... I know it must start with an F. I'll get in touch with Mid Atlantic and AC4H too.

      When I heard the name of the guy she adopted him to my heart sank. He's known to take horses to NH regularly and has several animal cruelty convictions. She immediately checked into it when I told her his history and he admitted to selling the horse at NH.
      Please don't try to be a voice of reason. It's way more fun to spin things out of control. #BecauseCOTH - showhorsegallery

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      • #4
        Let's start a pool of $ to buy ads in the local papers warning people of where their horses may end up if these people buy them, and I mean including naming names!
        What a shame.
        Hopefully he can be found. Is NH not helping to ID who bought him?
        Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

        http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

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          #5
          NH has been less than helpful. All they said was to have either a lawyer or police officer call the office manager as they can't give info on where the horse went. Police aren't interested so the owner's working on the lawyer side of it.

          It's ridiculous! People, if you absolutely have to give your horse away, ask for multiple references and do a background check. Even then it seems like this is happening so often now... I'm just sick of it.
          Please don't try to be a voice of reason. It's way more fun to spin things out of control. #BecauseCOTH - showhorsegallery

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          • #6
            It's very simple to buy a domain name and post to the web the names, addresses, phone #'s, and business names of people who have acquired horses under false pretenses and then sold them directly to New Holland and other similarly meat-frequented auctions. I'm sure that even if such a list were explosively controversial on this BB, that Fugly would be oh so happy to link to such a list, among others.

            Then we could advise sellers to check the list before they sell. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would be a start.
            I tolerate all kinds of animal idiosyncrasies.
            I've found that I don't tolerate people idiosyncrasies as well. - Casey09

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lori B View Post
              ...post to the web the names, addresses, phone #'s, and business names of people who have acquired horses under false pretenses and then sold them directly to New Holland and other similarly meat-frequented auctions.

              I'm sure that even if such a list were explosively controversial on this BB, that Fugly would be oh so happy to link to such a list, among others.

              Then we could advise sellers to check the list before they sell. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would be a start.
              I think that is a great idea, perhaps sorted by state [of the buyers residence].
              Certainly if people WANT to sell a horse to slaughter, it's their choice [save your breath County!], but for those wishing to avoid it, that would be a great resource!
              Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

              http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

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              • #8
                Except that those who sell to auctions / meat would just start enlisting the assistance of folks with other names, family members, cousin Ed, etc. Then we'd have to record those additional names too. But if we made selling to meat / auctions a little less convenient or profitable, that would be fine with me.
                I tolerate all kinds of animal idiosyncrasies.
                I've found that I don't tolerate people idiosyncrasies as well. - Casey09

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                • #9
                  OP-
                  Contact Christy at AC4H and Bev at MidAtlantic Equine immediately. Phone is best for these sorts of situations. There's a good change, if a dealer got him, they still have him. Often, dealers ship on Fridays.... so please get moving quickly.

                  Also, money talks. Hopefully the old owner of the horse is in a position to help.

                  Already jingling for lots of luck...

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                  • #10
                    Longshot

                    check the AC4H website, broker horses page one, there is a bay TB with a difficult ot read Tat that was bought 3/17 ETA oops his number is 3-10-17. Might relate to date or not, and he doesn't look 17hh
                    http://www.ac4h.com/DSC03312_small.JPG
                    more pics there

                    ETA tat starts with H... who knows off the top of their head what year that is?
                    Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

                    http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

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                    • #11
                      F is a 2002.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FatPalomino View Post
                        F is a 2002.
                        so he's 'Not It'
                        That would be tooo easy, right?
                        *sigh*
                        Yo/Yousolong April 23rd, 1985- April 15th, 2014

                        http://notesfromadogwalker.com/2012/...m-a-sanctuary/

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                        • #13
                          I hope the OP is contacting Christy or Bev. They are always available to help.

                          If possible, call out the person who sold the horse fraudulently. People may have seen this person at New Holland and remember that horse.

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                          • #14
                            Wow this is awful. I hope he can be found.
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                            • #15
                              Jingling for a good outcome for this boy.....and a plague of pustulent boils on the lying bastige who sent him there. Cockroach.
                              Regardless of one's feelings about slaugther, they had a CONTRACT. It isn't like some fluffy bunny person who went by some idealistic notion....they actually tried to ensure a horse's safety. It isn't even like they sold him on as a prospect where he had a better chance for a good home - they sent him to the most likely place to end up getting shipped.
                              Aargh.
                              Dee
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                              • #16
                                Is it the same guy who took Gambit and Harry?
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by luvmytbs View Post
                                  Is it the same guy who took Gambit and Harry?
                                  No. The guy who sold Playacar is Jack Cassell, google his animal cruelty record. He's not legally allowed to own farm animals anymore. If it's wrong to post his name I'm sure the Mods will let me know.

                                  I've left messages and sent emails to AC4H, MidAtlantic and Lost and Found. I've had a PM from someone who was there later at the auction and didn't see him go through or in the kill pen so maybe he got lucky and left early to a private home. Even so, this is inexcusable.

                                  Thanks for the help, I'm trying to get more details and will keep you updated.
                                  Please don't try to be a voice of reason. It's way more fun to spin things out of control. #BecauseCOTH - showhorsegallery

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                                  • #18
                                    As in, the 83 yr old Jack ?
                                    It's not scientific, but we google our adopter's names, and phone numbers. Better do it before the adoption than find out afterwards.


                                    You may want to contact this horse rescue that looks like they took his horses. Maybe they know the prosecutor and terms of his deal, and know the right people to tell about his current dealings.
                                    http://www.rvhr.com/localcases.shtml
                                    SCROLL DOWN for a picture of this guy.

                                    WORD TO THE WISE. When an 82 year old man comes by and claims to give your 17 hand, young, fit TB a home for life, think about it. Say ole Jack is a tough and healthy critter that can handle a young TB. Say horse only lives 15 more years. Jack will be 97 then. Think the horse is safe for life? Although, these articles portray him as a hoarder and certainly a repeat offender.

                                    Fugly preached this sort of thought before placing young TB's. When someone says they want your young TB for a kid's riding horse or a therapeutic riding program, think again. If it sounds too good, it probably is.

                                    OP, I sure do hope you find him. You're on the right trail. Consider filing a stolen horse report. The contract will be a civil matter, but you will have the police report. You can always go to the media with that, if you don't get far....

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                                    • #19
                                      CoolMeadows

                                      Any chance of a picture of this gelding?

                                      True 17 hd. horse?

                                      Markings- just a star? (no white on legs)

                                      Color- bay (correct?)

                                      Does the former owner know if he was sound?

                                      I've already notified Christy about this big fella however she didn't get to see much of the sale on Monday as she was coordinating coggins/hc/pickup of ALOT of the broker horses that found homes. We do have contacts though with some of the dealers to inquire. Would be helpful to have a little more specific info on the horses appearance. Thanks!

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                                        #20
                                        That's the one FP. I don't know the woman who owns Playacar, she's a friend of a friend and inherited the horse when her uncle died. I'm not sure how much she knows about horses never mind Ottbs and she didn't think to check Jack out and only spoke to him on the phone. Apparently he sent a woman to pick the horse up. I wish I'd known she had a horse who was looking for a home before she gave him away to Jack.
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