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    #21
    yes that Podium stuff is pellets....I will call mom and tell her to make mush for him!!!
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    • #22
      There was an "oldie" Arab stallion at the barn I boarded at--Frosty was short quite a few teeth and very skinny. I know they had a food for him that was special for senior horses with dentition problems--it was designed so even without soaking it broke down in the mouth easily so he didn't really have to chew, just gum. IIRC he was 30 or so. If it's a recent diet change she might also want to consider changing again (after a vetting) to see if something agrees with his stomach more.

      I also agree with other posters--most of the OLD-old horses I've known (30+, up to a Saddlebred mix who was 42 when he finally lay down in the pasture and couldn't get up) have just been skinny-looking much of the time. However none to my knowledge were Cushingoid so I don't know what difference that can make.
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      • #23
        Old horses frequently get skinny....so no surprise there.

        Old horses lose teeth...no surprise there either.

        Is he eating? Can he lay down and enjoy himself? Does he have a quality of life and is he happy? If so...let him enjoy himself.

        Bloodtest..why not...but I'm a big believer of "if he's happy, he deserves a chance to enjoy himself...if he's not...he deserves a release.
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        • #24
          Originally posted by Beverley View Post
          When you go next week, just hang out from a distance and watch the old fella. And up close, look deep into his eyes. He'll tell you if it's time or not, with or without bloodwork and etc, if you give it an honest look. Whether it's now, or later, let him tell you. You know you are in for a sad day at some point. It's never easy, but you can have some comfort in absolutely putting him and his needs/quality of life first.
          I agree. I had to put one of my old guys down this summer. He lost the sparkle in his eye and you could tell it just wasn't fun anymore. I also agree with the poster who said "Better a week to soon, then a day too late." I had one with Cushings that masked an aggressive cancer. One day his bladder ruptured and he was in a lot of pain. He had been developing symptoms similar to yours, but we blamed the Cushings.

          Good luck with your decision. Let him tell you.

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          • #25
            We live north and east of Toronto, and this winter has been brutal.
            You don't say how often he is fed, or the quantity by weight of the podium.
            Is he wearing a blanket? or at least a rrain sheet to stop the wind?

            We have many in their late 20's and 30's, and their age and teeth dictate what they are fed and how many times a day. Elliot is 30+, no molars at all, and is feed 4X daily, a mixtue od soaked pellets, and alphalfa cubes, and he is robust, and somewhat fat. Fancy is 30+, and in good shape.

            Your mom may have to increase what he is geting and the number of times a day.

            I would also go for the blood work.

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            • #26
              Only have time for a quick comment....if you are using Podium from Shur Gain, it is NOT as far as I know a safe Cushings feed - it is just a regular high energy feed - which makes me wonder if that might be provoking the reaction in him as he may well also be insulin resistant.
              Most commercial feeds are not safe to feed (I found that out the hard way by my little mare radically foundering on a senior feed.
              I see that you are in the GTA - I have a friend in Newmarket who also has a mare with Cushings, and I know that much safer feed choices are available here in ON. I was feeding a balanced hay cube made by Ontario DeHy in Guelph - they are analysed and supplemented specifically for the needs of an IR / Cushings horse. THere are also some good ideas in the Yahoo Equine Cushings group - VERY valuable info there.
              Sorry if later posts addressed this - gotta leave for workQ!
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              • Original Poster
                #27
                thanks for all your replies so far..it is very helpful!!

                mom says he trashes his stall nightly...and still get up and down fine on his own...so I wil have to see when I go home
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