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  • #81
    RTXJ - I feel your pain! I took on a coming two yr old foster filly who has a huge chip on her shoulder and a hot temper. She has kicked, bit and postured since day one. BUT! I think we're over the alpha hump. I never enter her pen without my trusty, small diameter pvc pole. The first time she kicked at me (I'm talking full force, aiming for the kill, kicking), I gave her the three second smack across the rump and hocks. She spun around to face me with WIDE open eyes and once she started the lick/chew, she approached me quietly with nice little forward ears. I did the same with the ears pinned/biting stuff and for the last two days, she's been an absolute angel!

    What I like about the pole is it won't actually hurt them, it's lightweight and long for ease of use, and they then don't associate the whip with "bad" things since I use a whip as an aid in training rather than for punishment.

    But it has reinforced the mare thing we hear so much about! I've given my geldings lots more pats of appreciation lately!

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      #82
      Might have to try that pvc pole idea! How long is it?

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      • #83
        I would guess it's about 5 1/2 feet long? Long enough to not get me hurt! And I should clarify the type of pole - it's a material used in plumbing water lines (hubby has a hot tub business) so it's not the typical white pvc. This stuff is more durable and less apt to crack in the cold. The color is grey and it's about 1 1/2 inches in diameter so lightweight. I store it right outside her pen so I don't forget to take it in with me.

        I think my next horse will be a 20 year old draft cross!

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        • #84
          Hannah is comming 2 in April (knock on wood)and Lucky for me I haven't seen any of the terrible two's. She is still very laid back and wonderful to work with. I did get on her this fall and walked around with no problem. Now I am waiting until spring to get back on. She still gets groomed daily and you can do anything to this girl. I am praying she stays this way.

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            #85
            I have a feeling this is going to be a LONG winter..and an even longer year for me when it comes to Taylor. Oh to be able to look into her little witchy brain and see whats going on!

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            • #86
              My 3 y/o Haffie is three months under saddle, and we just got him back from the trainers last Monday. Thank goodness he came back with a much better attitude and lost his enjoyment of bulldozing people. Basically our lessons focus on maintaining "whoa" and lots and lots of downward transitions. Of course, any thing going on outside the arena offers plenty of distractions...

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              • #87
                I have ones that are 1,2 and 3. 1 and 2 are sadly underhandled as the now 3 year old knew zero when we bought him last year and we needed to show him as he is Mr. Studly: so all free time spent with him. Now that we are frozen in would be a good time to work with the yearling since he IS actually for sale and need to make him look better in case someone ventures out to look at him. The 2 year old is not for sale....so will likely remain at the bottom of the training heap until she is 3. If I magically get some extra time I'd like to get her whippped into shape to show at DAD in the fall. I can hope.........!!!!

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                • #88
                  My two year old Hann/Th gelding(soon to be 3 in April) has done nothing since I backed him lightly this fall (walk/trot). He'll be started back up in May. Right now he's enjoying his cold winter of leisure.

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                  • #89
                    I have a Dutch gelding who will be 3 in April. He didn't know much when I bought him at 2 1/2, but since then he has been trailered twice, he bathes, clips, stands like a gentlemen in the cross ties most days, and picks up his feet.

                    I taught him to pick up his feet when I bend over, grab a foot and say "Up". It really works. You just have to be both patient and consistent.

                    The first time I tried getting him to pick up his front feet, he tried to put it back down by bowing. I just held on and went with his movement. I think he was shocked that I didn't back down by dropping his foot, and now he doesn't do it anymore. Oh, the joys of owning a young horse.

                    Actually, having a 2 year old has really helped me develop patience. There are days when he has a cow and gets freaked about about birds flying out of a tree, or the wind, or kids playing nearby. I just ignore it and do my best to comfort him. Eventually, he will calm down when he sees that I am not upset and then I tell him "Good Boy!" He really seems to respond to verbal praise.

                    It has also given me an ENORMOUS amount of confidence, which I find really counter-intuitive as most people say that only a schoolmaster can help you develop confidence. I have never worked with a horse this young or green.

                    Has anyone else had the same positive experinence or am I just exceedingly lucky?

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                      #90
                      Well, Friday I longed her and she was VERY well behaved. She didnt really try any of her airs above the ground. But since then, just walking around,not really messing with her,shes a witch.

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                        #91
                        Ok, so now Taylor has decieded that she doesnt want her feet trimmed! I have never seen her be so bad! She bounced around like her feet were on fire! It took two hours to get all four feet trimmed! It was awful, I felt so bad for my farrier, he must think I am the worlds worst horse mom!
                        She has never done this before, and I picked out her feet not 10 minutes before he got there!

                        This is so frustrating, one day shes a perfect little angel, the next shes a witch on hooves!

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                        • #92
                          Ok update! Thank you RTXH for telling me to get into the action about my filly. I went to pick my filly's feet and when I got to the back one she tried to take it away. Jennifer said "Hold on to it" and I did. Kiki tried to sit on her butt, but the halter put pressure on her poll and she couldn't sit down. I held it until she stop struggling and then she was perfect! I groomed her from head to toe and she stood still as a statue! What a good girl!

                          Well just as I thought it was going to be fine and dandy I took her to her stall (it was feeding time). She lead like a champ, stopping at my shoulder when I stopped without any pressure at all! I put her in her stall, gave hay and then she decides to jump out of the stall! Didn't make it and knock the door down. It was a light metal small gate do she didn't hurt herself. She wanted to be with her buds who were still outside. On the bright side, her knees were to her eyeballs and they were square and even.

                          Anna saw the whole thing too and she was cool about it. She even told me a story about how her baby tried to jump out if his stall. Ed fixed the stall door (it broke at the hinges) without any problems.

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                            #93
                            Taylor has jumped out of her stall too. She can barely see over it, but she made it with out a scratch!

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                            • #94
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Raven's Wing:
                              Raven will be 2 in May. She lunges, baths, will let me clipper her ears and bridle bath but you can forget the whiskers (and since she is turned out all the time I really don't want them off anyway), she leads, loads and trailors like a trooper, has had a saddle on her back (which she thought was a bore and waste of time), stands for the farrier,

                              My plans are to back her this July. Just get on, sit and walk around. Then she will have next winter to chill and we will go further the next summer when she is a solid 3 year old.

                              All sounds hunky dorrey. Ha! She is a big bruiser and has to be reminded on a regular basis that she can't throw her weight around and be in charge. She is around 15.2 now (in front) but has some bulk to go with it. She also is very oral -- we are working on it. She isn't allowed treats out of people's hands (never really has been) but boy is she mouthy.

                              Babies -- gotta love them -- well sometimes. LOL<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              Your mare sounds like my stallion! He will be 2 in May, 16.1, I imported him from Holland. and he is a dream to work with. He free lunges, knows voice commands, stands like a dream for mane pulling and clipping, wears a surcingle, bathes like a pro etc. He is fearless. Nothing phases him. He is SOOOO smart (maybe too smart). I can't put a blanket on him because he tears it off. He jumped out of the 5' round pen, he dumps his water bucket for fun and screams for more water. But he likes to test his limits. He bites....A LOT. With everything else, I smack him on the butt or neck and yell "NO" and he'll stop (ie: pawing, lifting his hind leg like he is going to kick).....but he WILL NOT STOP BITING. I try to make him respect my space, but sometimes he is just awful. He is being sent to a BNT on March 1st to be shown on the line and trained so that my baby boy will have some good manners! Hopefully he will turn out like his daddy, Voltaire!

                              When does everyone start free jumping their stallion prospects?

                              here he is....The picture is a little dark. you may have to lighten it on your computer!
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                              • #95
                                Anticipation: How and when did you decide to send your guy to a BNT? My boy will be 2 in May as well and has just been logging time in a pasture with other boys. I have high hopes for my boy (hoping he'll be a good jumper like his mommy and daddy)(Adith and Indoctro). But, I don't know when to send him off to the working world?? Don't want to start before his bones fuse and his mind is ready. He's a warmblood, I think they do better starting later. Sadly, his pasture mates are all thoroughbreds and they get started at 2, so he'll need to find a new home. We are in Northern Calif. Love this thread. Any thoughts?
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                                • #96
                                  Hello SBock,

                                  My mare is warmblood too and while I have tried to give her pasture from one place to another, I also spent 1 hour everyday, grooming, teaching her all the basics. Then at 2.5 yo I start her under saddle 15 minutes at the time. Then I let her in the pasture for the winter and I did some works last summer.
                                  If you are looking for BNT, then make sure your boy knows the basics (lunging, give legs, walk under leach, load, clip, etc) and is nice to handle. Starting a horse under saddle and working a horse are two different things for me. I personnaly like to take my time and make sure my mare has been through all the basics before going to another step.

                                  Good luck your your boy !!!
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                                    #97
                                    I worked Taylor on Sunday. We longed for about 15 minutes total. she was REALLY good to the left, she nailed "WALK" and "WHOA" like she never has before. We did a little "TROT" and she was great. Switched to the right and everything fell apart. She started leaning in, getting close, tossing her head up and tipping her nose in. "WHOA" seemed to have been forgotten and of course that led to a faster walk and her working herself up. I attached another line to her outside and ran it over her back. Our circle turned into a larger one, as I walked with her. She got better, but we just did a time or two a nice walk around then stopped. She would get to one spot and start to do her "airs above the ground" I really hate this. I pushed her through this spot and really had to make sure I was ready for her when we got to it.

                                    Could it just be one sidedness or maybe something else? Her teeth? I work her in her bridle, but with a halter over it, which is what the lines are attached to, so I dont hold onto her mouth if she starts acting up.

                                    Any suggestions?

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                                    • #98
                                      I'd bet she is unbalanced in that direction. We all tend to make our horses one-sided. I'd start out in that direction and spend twice as much time on that side as on the left. I think you're doing the right thing by moving her forward when she acts up. I would continue to use two lines so she can't cut in and continue connecting the lines to the halter since she will be hitting the ends of the lines hard while she has her fits.

                                      It definitely sounds like she is improving though, so don't get discouraged! Our weather is so terrible that Lucy hasn't seen a lunge line in months.

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                                        #99
                                        It poured the other day, and is supposed to start again tomorrow. there goes any hopes of riding this weekend and working more with her!

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                                        • RTXJ,
                                          I think all horses have their little 'things'. Dan is so good for grooming in the crossties and the farrier loves him, he just stands and soaks everything up....UNTIL...the clippers! He hates having his whiskers clipped (he is fine everywhere else on his body but his whiskers). And it's not the clippers themself, he goes bonkers even if you cut just one whisker with scissors. He scrunches up his whole face and just freaks out, throwing his head everywhere and just being a menace. I have rubbed clippers and scissors all over his face, cut his bridle path, he's fine. But cut ONE whisker.

                                          He can also be a big PITA on the lunge too, and is also really one sided. Lunging in an arena is the biggest pain, as at least once a session he does a bolt - throw the head - bolt out of the circle - pull you accross the arena. He could be going around a complete angel, then WHAM! It's turned into such a game with him he is back in the round pen in a halter with a chain over his nose. Both my trainer and I feel it's just his late-gelding, intimidation tactics. He hasn't a mean bone in his body, but boy does he want to test (and test and test and test).

                                          Anyway, just wanted to post the negatives so you wouldn't feel alone. There are a million postives as well. He is dead quite while riding, already is totally unphased by anything, goes round naturally, and is so well balanced that he has cantered a less than 10 meter circle around my on the lunge (non intentionally, I wanted him to stop!).

                                          I just think this is the joy of a greenie!

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