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  • Sorry stink, you are very very wrong.

    You use the term "person and me" when the word "me" fits all by itself in the sentence.
    • This is a photo of me.
    • This is a photo of Sam.
    • This is a photo of Sam and me.


    You use the term "person and I" when the word "I" fits all by itself in the sentence.
    • I am going home.
    • Sam is going home.
    • Sam and I are going home.

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    • "It's a pet peeve of mine too. Mostly because I'm tired of hearing the response to

      "How are you today?"

      "I'm well"

      Sure you can be well. But when someone says it, it's like they're being superior in their use of well over good. Sorry, but good is the adjective and is perfectly exceptable as the answer to 'How are you today?'"

      Rugbug, uh....no..... see Gregg Reference Manual, if you don't choose to believe this former English teacher - "To feel well" means "to be in good health" - "I'm well, thank you"; "to feel good" means "to be in good spirits" - "I feel good about our new contract".

      But while we're at it.... "Give the paper to Judy or I" - can we all say 'fingernails on a blackboard'????? Take out the other person (Judy) - and the pronoun you'd use then is the pronoun you'd use with just Judy or with a whole mess of folks.

      C
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      Equine Photography in the Northeast

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      • And the word for an "ah-HA" moment is 'voila' (with an accent over the 'a' which this board doesn't have) - not vwala or wala. It's French for "there you are!"
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        • My biggest is definitely - definItely NOT definAtely... I see it CONSTANTLY... UGH!!! If you don't know it, just type "def" haha.

          Also, when people think they are being ultra correct by saying, "He brought pizza for Katie and I." NOPE - "He brought pizza for Katie and ME." I'd rather somebody said me all of the time and knew they were wrong but were lazy about it... I HATE when people constantly say so and so and "I" when "ME" is actually appropriate.

          My sister's is nauseated vs. nauseous, but even the dictionaries are starting to say that nauseous can now mean nauseated = )

          OH! When poeple say "ya" or "yah" when they mean "yeah." Have hated this since I was little and typing on AIM and couldn't understand why my friends couldn't just spell out "yeah."

          I'm such a nerd about this stuff though. I like to go to those snarky websites where all of the most misused words and phrases are corrected... My roomate and "I" always used to do this while drinking a bottle of wine, and we would just laugh and laaaaugh... Nerds.

          And agreed on "I couldn't care less." vs. "I could care less." Haha.

          Also, "whoa" vs. "woah"... Horse people should know this.

          There are so many of these. Love it!

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          • I was going to try and find a neumonic to help the annoy, ennoy person, then realized I didn't know how to spell neumonic, and rather than risk the spelling police decided to post this instead. Anyway, Peggy beat me to it.

            MOST annoying - to me - are the people that have to correct every word a person says that might be a little ungrammatical. How superior can a person get? La de dah.

            If I knew how to use a dictionary function on the computer, I might be able to spell perfectly, but I'm not geting up to look up the Britannica Dictionary just for COTH.
            Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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            • Sugarbrook - What is a "misspelled wod"??? Now I am teasing
              Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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              • Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                I was going to try and find a neumonic to help the annoy, ennoy person, then realized I didn't know how to spell neumonic, and rather than risk the spelling police decided to post this instead. Anyway, Peggy beat me to it.

                MOST annoying - to me - are the people that have to correct every word a person says that might be a little ungrammatical. How superior can a person get? La de dah.

                If I knew how to use a dictionary function on the computer, I might be able to spell perfectly, but I'm not geting up to look up the Britannica Dictionary just for COTH.
                *whispers to Foxtrot*

                Mnemonic.

                *runs*

                Adversity is the stone on which I sharpen my blade.

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                • Psst - thanks - wondered if it did or didn't have an "m". bye.
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                  • Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                    I was going to try and find a neumonic to help the annoy, ennoy person, then realized I didn't know how to spell neumonic, and rather than risk the spelling police decided to post this instead. Anyway, Peggy beat me to it.

                    MOST annoying - to me - are the people that have to correct every word a person says that might be a little ungrammatical. How superior can a person get? La de dah.

                    If I knew how to use a dictionary function on the computer, I might be able to spell perfectly, but I'm not geting up to look up the Britannica Dictionary just for COTH.
                    You are correct. While someone might make a mistake in spelling or grammar, the grammar police are always there to point out mistakes. More important than grammar is the issue raised or the question asked, whether you speak the Queen's english or geechee or screet language. There are more important issues than that.

                    btw, in "cop" language in Atlanta, one "lays out from work" when calling in sick.

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                    • [quote=goeslikestink;3869581]
                      Originally posted by ybiaw View Post
                      Not always. "This is a picture of me and my friend Sam" is correct. "This is a picture of Sam and I," is incorrect. Why? Because the two sentences "This is a picture of me," and "This is a picture of my friend Sam," both make sense independently. The two sentences "This is a picture of Sam," and "This is a picture of I," do not.


                      nope the proper and corrrect manner would be , this is a piture of my freind sam and I as in well spoken but common language as nowadays it would be changed to me and my friend sam or as you quoted
                      when one uses me in that context its slang type speach
                      look in any old photo album of grandaprents and you find here in uk its ends in sam and I

                      and not me and sam but nowadays the improtance of how one speaks is taken out of prospective in how they were brought up
                      old school as in perhaps private education systems would say I as one would not be
                      seen to class themsleves as me its how you been brought up plays an important part
                      in how one speaks and how society has change the way one speaks
                      Absolutely WRONG. In the case of "My friend took a picture of Sam and me", "me" is correct as it is the object of the preposition "of". "I" would be subjective case and therefore incorrect.

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                      • Originally posted by cloudyandcallie View Post
                        You are correct. While someone might make a mistake in spelling or grammar, the grammar police are always there to point out mistakes. More important than grammar is the issue raised or the question asked, whether you speak the Queen's english or geechee or screet language. There are more important issues than that.

                        btw, in "cop" language in Atlanta, one "lays out from work" when calling in sick.
                        I'll be the first to say that many grammar rules are archaic and random. You know why we can't split our infinitives? Because we couldn't in Latin (they were made by adding endings to verbs in Latin, thus couldn't be split). And we figured that since Latin was KING, we shouldn't be able to do it in English, either. But dang it, "To boldly go where no man has gone before" sounds better than "to go boldly..."

                        There are many, many other examples (don't end sentences with prepositions, etc.) that are simply silly and based on Latinate rules. BUT....does that mean we shouldn't try to be the best we can be in terms of our communication?

                        I keep thinking of Father George Morris ("Blessed art thou amongst hunters..."), and how he's always pushing for people (and horses) to look their best, because presentation is an outward reflection of hard work/horsemanship.

                        Isn't following the rules of grammar, spelling, etc. an outward expression of respect to the reader, and a signification of care on the part of the writer?

                        I'm willing to forgive the person who's a really good horseperson for not having all of her appointments in order, as long as she's working hard, she's being conscientious, and her horse is well tended. Similarly, I'll forgive "computos" and obvious goofs in spelling/grammar made on the fly. But shouldn't I expect everyone to at least try to do their best, and not make the same mistake over and over again? Isn't it just a sign of respect?
                        --Becky in TX
                        Clinic Blogs and Rolex Blogs
                        She who throws dirt is losing ground.

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                        • Original Poster

                          Thank you, Kairoshorses. This is exactly the point I have been attempting to raise periodically throughout this thread, and what keeps it at least marginally horse-related. It is not superficial or elitist to strive for clarity and consistency in communication. The ability to say exactly what we mean is to some degree acquired rather than instinctive for all of us, but it is definitely worth the effort. Think of the example much earlier in the thread, when instead of "accepted" the writer of a news article used "excepted", thereby conveying to her readers the exact opposite of what she intended. To me it is the equivalent of not bothering to develop a good seat and steady hands in order to deliver clear aids to the horse, but expecting a prompt and accurate response when your equine partner is trying to distinguish which bumps and thumps have meaning and which to ignore.
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                          • I love this thread. Some very funny stuff.

                            My pet peeve is poor spelling in stallion ads. Such as.....

                            Hanovarian, instead of Hanoverian.

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                            • I try, and really know the difference, to post without too many spelling errors. Sometimes I get in a hurry and just don't care!! LOl. So, those reading my posts will have to forgive me. I do not mind corrections if they are important.
                              This has been a fun thread.
                              Last edited by Sugarbrook; Feb. 9, 2009, 10:21 PM. Reason: typo
                              Sandy
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                              hunter/jumper ponies

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                              • Originally posted by Phyxius View Post
                                Haha, that's great! I wonder if Metallica would change the lyrics for Enter Sandman and sing your prayer version.
                                LMAO! The thought of that just made Baymare's prayer even funnier to me!!

                                Although I'm a little concerned that "even funnier" isn't going to be considered good enough grammer for this thread...

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                                • [QUOTE=zagafi;3870611]
                                  Originally posted by goeslikestink View Post

                                  Absolutely WRONG. In the case of "My friend took a picture of Sam and me", "me" is correct as it is the object of the preposition "of". "I" would be subjective case and therefore incorrect.
                                  Thank you! That is my biggest pet peeve.."I" vs. "me"...and how people use "I" as the default pronoun when two pronouns or a pronoun and proper noun are joined by "and".... It is okay and correct to use "me"....for example, the judge gave the ribbon to Dobbin and me....this is correct. He did not give it to "I". It depends on whether it is the subject or object. However, when it comes to titles...also depends on whether it is the subject or object..for example "The King and I" or "Marley and Me"

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                                  • [QUOTE=I.C.O.;3871130]
                                    Originally posted by zagafi View Post

                                    "Marley and Me"
                                    Awww, I'm sad just reading that title!

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                                    • I remember years ago when Apple was beginning its resurgence in the computing world, their slogan was "Think Different."

                                      OOOOOOh that bothered me to no end!!!

                                      Think differentLY!

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                                      • I was reminded of this thread today while I was doing errands. I was in a home improvement store, and they were starting to set up some summer items on display in one section. There were several hammocks lined up, and in front of them was a large sign which read, "Do Not Lay in the Hammocks."

                                        :

                                        The mental image, while not the one they intended, was quite entertaining.

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                                        • i dont claim to be the queens laungage as shes german
                                          i am english and british and i dont claim to know latin i havent been fortunate to claim to be so very well educated as the rest of you are

                                          so you lot can count yourselves lucky that you have that knowledge

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