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Please! Nobody "LAYS" on the neck of the horse!

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  • #81
    Vacation - you'd be surprised. This guy goes on and on and on about how our grammar and spelling sucks because of computers and texting...and he makes all the exact same mistakes. I feel the need to point it out to him because he is constantly pointing out all of our mistakes. :P

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    • #82
      Originally posted by eventer_mi View Post
      Um, actually, it IS longe. It's from the French, meaning lead (as in animals). The verb form means to run alongside, or to go along.

      To lunge is "any sudden forward movement; plunge", which isn't exactly what we are referring to when we longe our horses, or, to be correct, put our horse on the longe.

      That's a pet peeve of mine. You do not lunge, or lounge, your horse. You longe your horse.

      Seriously?? I haven't seen it spelled "longe" - maybe it's one of those country differences?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by eventer_mi View Post
        Um, actually, it IS longe. It's from the French, meaning lead (as in animals). The verb form means to run alongside, or to go along.

        To lunge is "any sudden forward movement; plunge", which isn't exactly what we are referring to when we longe our horses, or, to be correct, put our horse on the longe.

        That's a pet peeve of mine. You do not lunge, or lounge, your horse. You longe your horse.
        Then why is it called a lunge line?
        http://www.doversaddlery.com/product...cd2=1234048284

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          #84
          It isn't called a lunge line. It is a longe line.
          www.baymarefarm.net

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          • #85
            Originally posted by baymare View Post
            It isn't called a lunge line. It is a longe line.
            Why do all the magazines call it a lunge line though?

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            • #86
              If you want to call it a longe line, call it that. If you would like to call it a lunge line, call it a lunge line. Obviously there are 2 opinions on it, and its in google as lunge, longe and a million other ways.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by WorthTheWait95 View Post
                Why do all the magazines call it a lunge line though?
                Because they don't want their readers to feel stupid.

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                • Original Poster
                  #88
                  Just because a magazine says so doesn't make it right! Because I say so makes it right! Just kidding, of course.

                  Seriously, though, it is amazing how often the printed media get grammar and spelling wrong-- just because spell check recognizes a word doesn't mean it's actually the right word! As a matter of fact, probably somebody writing an article typed in "longe" and spell check told them it was "lunge" and they believed it! And the whole "lay" and "lie" thing that started the thread is a conspicuous example of how often grammar errors are perpetrated on a gullible public by people who ought to know better!
                  www.baymarefarm.net

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                  • #89
                    Lol!

                    You guys would love the book "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" by Lynne Truss.

                    Seriously. Get it.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Come Shine View Post
                      Lol!

                      You guys would love the book "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" by Lynne Truss.

                      Seriously. Get it.
                      That book gives me nightmare-esque flashbacks to high school English. AHHH.

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                      • #91
                        Folks, this is a Horse forum, not a soapbox for the spelling police. One of my pet peeves, while I'm at it, is this sort of moaning.

                        I'm trying to earn a place on the Chattiest thread....
                        Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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                        • Original Poster
                          #92
                          There is nothing wrong with being both horsie and literate! Characteristic of a good horseman is the ability to pay attention to details-- my favorite example being show jumping icon and book editor Bill Steinkraus.

                          I started this topic because there was a long discussion on another thread discussing "laying" on the horses neck and all its ramifications. It was a valid topic, if well-worn, with many thoughtful replies. Unfortunately, I for one was unable to see the forest for the trees-- all good intentions were blotted out by the distraction of the mis-use of a word, not just once, but again and again and again and again. Reading the thread was like being hit repeatedly over the head with a hammer. Grammar, spelling, and all those conventions of language are meant as aids to clarity, just as correct seat and position and the conventions of riding are aids to clarity of communication between horse and rider. I don't think that comparison is a stretch at all.

                          And, as for the ensuing catalog of language and spelling pet peeves-- I found them pretty entertaining. There are "alot" of those mistakes around the boards. I'm sure I've contributed my share, and I think it is both healthy and appropriate to own them, laugh over them, and move on (till we think of some more, anyway!).
                          www.baymarefarm.net

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                          • #93
                            I haven't had time to go through every single post so it might be here already...but one of my biggest peeves is definitely "definatly!" Folks, puhleeeze! C'mon, now...

                            Also, something that irks me beyond belief is the seemingly current fad of creating new words by taking a word that is supposed to be a noun and making a verb out of it. example: lessoning,clinicing, flatting (God, that's the WORST one in my opinion! Every time I hear someone say "I flatted my horse today," I get this mental image of a horse smooshed flat like a roadkill toad. Poor pony.)

                            Katja
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                            • #94
                              ...It's my bad typing, poor eyesight and rushed answers that are my problem more than my spelling..!
                              Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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                              • #95
                                "Dragged" and NOT "drug." And when you are having a Southern moment, please remember it is Y'ALL and not YA'LL. And, again "oy vey" and "Oye Como Va," not "oye vey."

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                                • #96
                                  Originally posted by SillyHorse View Post
                                  Entirely different. Your objective in speaking or writing is (or should be) to be easily understood.

                                  Welp, that is all.
                                  Are you kidding?? I take GREAT pride is confusing as many as possible while using proper grammar!!

                                  Seb
                                  Aca-Believe it!!

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                                  • #97
                                    For those of you who think that spelling and using the correct word is no problem, here's a story. I worked at a small-town newspaper during college, and one of the "editors" turned in a story in which she had changed the first line from "No late entries" to "Late entries will not be excepted." COMPLETELY turned around the meaning.

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                                      #98
                                      Originally posted by tbmorgan View Post
                                      I haven't had time to go through every single post so it might be here already...but one of my biggest peeves is definitely "definatly!" Folks, puhleeeze! C'mon, now...

                                      Also, something that irks me beyond belief is the seemingly current fad of creating new words by taking a word that is supposed to be a noun and making a verb out of it. example: lessoning,clinicing, flatting (God, that's the WORST one in my opinion! Every time I hear someone say "I flatted my horse today," I get this mental image of a horse smooshed flat like a roadkill toad. Poor pony.)

                                      Katja
                                      "Flatting" Oh! How could I have forgotten that one! The horror! Yes, the verbification of America is truly offensive. It started with "impact" and has gone on and on...I still say that if something has "impacted" you, then the first thing to do is see a veterinarian!
                                      www.baymarefarm.net

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                                      • #99
                                        Baymare:

                                        I will repeat what I said earlier.

                                        We should not embarrass anyone but most certainly we should not embarrass those who have a lot of skill with horses and who are probably in the barn right now trying to reclaim horses screwed up by people who pride themselves on their command of the English language.

                                        We do not want to embarrass anyone who has skills beyond ours and whose posts would be of help to us when we are in dire need of advice.

                                        This topic would be appropriate on a board devoted to English teachers, university academics, etc., but it is not going to do horse people anything but harm.

                                        I had a little fun with the "I'm good" thing, but my suggestion is that it is time to let it go.

                                        It is going to be 70 degrees today. Go ride your horse. If you are unlucky enough to be stuck in a snow bank, I expect your horse could stand some tender loving care.

                                        Either will serve you better than insulting some good horse person who has not had our advantages.

                                        CSSJR

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                                        • #100
                                          Originally posted by cssutton View Post
                                          Baymare:

                                          I will repeat what I said earlier.

                                          We should not embarrass anyone but most certainly we should not embarrass those who have a lot of skill with horses and who are probably in the barn right now trying to reclaim horses screwed up by people who pride themselves on their command of the English language.

                                          We do not want to embarrass anyone who has skills beyond ours and whose posts would be of help to us when we are in dire need of advice.

                                          This topic would be appropriate on a board devoted to English teachers, university academics, etc., but it is not going to do horse people anything but harm.

                                          I had a little fun with the "I'm good" thing, but my suggestion is that it is time to let it go.

                                          It is going to be 70 degrees today. Go ride your horse. If you are unlucky enough to be stuck in a snow bank, I expect your horse could stand some tender loving care.

                                          Either will serve you better than insulting some good horse person who has not had our advantages.

                                          CSSJR
                                          Well, I have enjoyed the thread and, to be honest, if I spoke to a trainer who talked to me about "confirmation" when discussing how a horse is put together, I would assume that that trainer knows less than I do about "conformation".

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