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  • Well, Saddleup, all I have to say is that they must have a boatload of buyers out there in Utah. I know that if someone came and was interested in my horse for something that I wasn't doing with the horse, but promised to be a good, loving, gentle home for my horse, I would sell him/her (unless it was that weird Mexican rodeo horse-tripping event which I forget the name of now!) We have a lot of the snootiness factor here in Colorado, too, from the DQs. I, like you, started out in dressage, but switched to Western and will never go back. I'll still get in an English saddle, but only for points when doing all-around, not for pleasure. Do you think this horse would be suitable for pleasure? Actually, you didn't say what particular event you are interested in. Was the owner wanting a show home or ?? She must have had some bad experiences with "yahoos." As Eileen or Sandbar said - too bad for the horse.
    Anne

    "She's called Lucy because she often has some 'splaining to do."

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    • Uggh Anne, they are called "charreada" ...... something else to make a horse lovers blood boil.

      I started doing some link checking, incase anyone didn't know what this was, but couldn't decide which link to post...so here's thesearch link, if anyone wants to read up on it, although I doubt it will take more than a read or two...fourth or fifth search down, or just type "horse tripping" into the search bar of your computer

      http://websearch.cs.com/cs/cs_result...rce=CSNextPrev



      Eileen


      "If the world were truly a rational place. men would ride side saddle." Rita Mae Brown

      The Long Island Horsemen's Society web page
      http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/lihs/
      Eileen
      ~~Cowgirl Clique~~ ~~Reriders/AKA Fossils On The Flats Clique~~~


      \"Always saddle your own horse.\" Connie Reeves 1901-2003 Member of the Cowgirl Hall Of Fame

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      • Eileen,

        Thanks for the info. I think I tried to block it the first few times I heard it. The things people think up, huh?

        A.

        "She's called Lucy because she often has some 'splaining to do."

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        • This is just another insanity Anne, kinda like the bulls and the horses in Spain < I forget the name of that, but Mark Twain aka Samuel Clemens wrote a book about that>
          I've done research on feed lots, etc, and studied equine abuse.....most of it is not pretty.
          I, for one always count my blessings that the horses in my life are well taken care of. As in equine slaughter, there isn't alot we can do about it singularly, but collectively, thats a different story.....and always give the horses in our lives as much love as we can. .....they are such innocents, the horses, having us take them away from their feral lives and domesticating them to suit our needs, they do not deserve such inhumanities for the sake of the almighty dollar.
          <off soap box again, for now

          Eileen


          "If the world were truly a rational place. men would ride side saddle." Rita Mae Brown

          The Long Island Horsemen's Society web page
          http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/lihs/
          Eileen
          ~~Cowgirl Clique~~ ~~Reriders/AKA Fossils On The Flats Clique~~~


          \"Always saddle your own horse.\" Connie Reeves 1901-2003 Member of the Cowgirl Hall Of Fame

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          • Hooray for a western forum!

            B U M P

            Calme, Droit, En Avant

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            • Well okay, if you're going to bump it, I'll bring up another "western" topic.

              I just bought a Martin trail saddle and I love it so far. It's lightweight, comfortable and fits my older gelding great. But it's this gorgeous new leather. When you're out on the trail and it pours down rain, what do you do for your saddle to revive it? I'm worried about water spots.

              Or do you wear those big slickers to cover it up and then you're safe?

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              • Wow, glad to see this made it back to page 1!!

                Saddleup - I've only recently started riding trail in a saddle that I care about. Honestly though, the only time it got really wet was in my ring, I had just mounted when it poured and I REALLY wanted to ride.

                Anyway, I don't have a light oil saddle, with one of those you would have to find a way to cover it or it WILL get darker, even just from regular cleaning. BUT, if you have a darker saddle, like mine, just let it air dry, preferably in the house, and then lightly condition/oil it. Of course, if it's dirty too you'd want to clean it first.

                I also got this self shining conditioner (pretty expensive, but lasts a long time), which is also supposed to have some water repellant/water proofing properties. I usually only use it every third cleaning or before a show, but it seems to work well. I'll look up the name and post it if you're interested.
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                • I too have a dark saddle, but if I was trail riding in something light that I didnt want stained I would probably wear something that would cover it up. But in the summer when it gets too hot????
                  I usually use Horsemans One Step for all my leather cleaning needs, but I find with my dark show saddle it leaves a film and if I dont remove all of it it leaves a white residue (esp in the tooling). What does everyone use on their saddle (esp dark)???
                  Soggy Trails
                  L

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                  • Hi everyone! Love the possibility of a western BB here, but will take even this sub-BB if that's all we get. My daughter and I show all-around in open and buckskin shows here, and will be brave enough to venture out to the Appaloosa shows this summer... We both came from heavy hunter backrounds, and my daughter showed pony hunter growing up in South Florida. By the time she hit 12 years old, she said she wouldn't mind never jumping anything again, so we started checking out the whole western world. It's actually a LOT harder to ride and show successfully this way, in both WP and HUS, than it was straight hunters, but we love it! I still ride almost exclusively hunt seat, but now it's the "stock horse" style HUS, and I find it interesting. I also love learning the showmanship aspect, and it's also great knowing you can show your horse even if you can't actually ride them for whatever reason! Hope we can keep this thread going-- can't think why I didn't find it sooner.

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                    • Welcome to the board, Reddungirl
                      The reasome you might not of seen this thread is because it was kind of lost for about a month.
                      Glad to see that you and your daughter have found a way to continue your equine persuits after the hunter ring (did the same thing myself)
                      Now I guess all we have to do is get you in some chaps and a nice comfy Billy Cook or Dale Chevaz!!
                      Appy trails << thats supposed to be amusing!!
                      L

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                      • Thanks Lita! My daughter is actually working on me for WP... my gelding isn't as finished for WP, meaning he will take advantage of that lovely draped rein to, oh, lets say "stretch" that cute frame and look around a bit. But, we have pinned in a couple "walk/trot over 40" classes, at which I was thrilled. And I must admit, I too drool over the new Hobby Horse catalogs when they come in! This stuff is not cheap, but I do feel I can justify stuff for my daughter since that's really her priority... for myself, I get a rather basic slinky and the obligatory black chaps and hat, then use the Suitability patterns and cut up leather garments from Goodwill and embellish using nailheads/crystals, etc. Really keeps the cost down if you get good enough. My next project will be the hold-everything-in-place super lycra slinkies!

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                        • Arent you brave delving into the world of make-your-own. I tried but gave up, its off to the tack store to look through the Hobby Horse stuff, yes Im very lucky to have a dealer in my area
                          There is a woman in BC that makes show cloths, goes by the name of dardar8, 1 of her vests jsut went for over $1000 USD on ebay!!!
                          If I had the money I would have bought it, it was beyond beautiful.

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                          • Dardar's stuff is gorgeous !!! I keep drooling when ever I see it, but haven't had the funds to make a purchase. I did "snipe" a lovely jacket last week though, sequins, spangles, and all <watches sandbar cringe >.
                            I hoped someone would reawaken this thread.....
                            Cowgirl up !!!!

                            Eileen


                            "If the world were truly a rational place. men would ride side saddle." Rita Mae Brown

                            The Long Island Horsemen's Society web page
                            http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/lihs/
                            Eileen
                            ~~Cowgirl Clique~~ ~~Reriders/AKA Fossils On The Flats Clique~~~


                            \"Always saddle your own horse.\" Connie Reeves 1901-2003 Member of the Cowgirl Hall Of Fame

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                            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lita:
                              Arent you brave delving into the world of make-your-own. I tried but gave up, its off to the tack store to look through the Hobby Horse stuff, yes Im very lucky to have a dealer in my area
                              There is a woman in BC that makes show cloths, goes by the name of dardar8, 1 of her vests jsut went for over $1000 USD on ebay!!!
                              If I had the money I would have bought it, it was beyond beautiful.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              The other option is to check out the huge selection of show clothes available on-line, pick out some ideas you like and then have somebody local make the outfit(s).

                              My new showmanship outfit is styled after a tunic I saw at On The Rail but has my own ideas for finishing. It's being made by a local company that specializes in dance and figure skating costumes - they work with lycra, appliques, sequins and rhinestones all the time. When th outfit is complete, it will be about 1/4 of what it would have cost to buy it elsewhere.

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                              • Yes, I have seen dardar8's stuff... absolutely stunning! Don't I wish (sigh)... not so much for myself since it is more than a little premature (I will probably always be mostly huntseat), but definitely for my daughter. I like the idea of trying to find a professional to work with some of these fabrics-- especially since you have been lucky enough to find a company that already understands the athletic, close fit needed here. I will have to start scouting around. In the meantime I choose my leather garments to recycle very carefully since my sewing machines, even equipped with the best needle choice, will only handle so much. I have to try to find cast off garments or evening wear of the thinnest leather-- you know, the stuff hardly any of us would be purchasing new?!! Plus I have fabric samples on a ring in my truck, and I am constantly on the lookout for matching stretch lycra, trims, etc. I've found the best stuff through serendipity, when I'm not looking!

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                                • OK, I'm new here, and I would also like to see a western forum.
                                  I formerly was a hunter/jumper show mom, and then my daughter went to college. I ended up buying a horse to ride on trails, but I soon found myself interested in western trail classes. I've been competing in AQHA shows ever since. I have found that some things I learned about h/j help with trail. This is especially true on the more demanding trail courses.
                                  I still love to keep track of all the h/j goings on because I love to watch a good hunter or an exciting jumper round. And I still subscribe to the Chronicle because it keeps me current with the h/j world.

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                                  • Welcome In2......something tells me we could start our own BB about being a show Mom, then having your darling children go off to college.
                                    Amazing all that training you got while at a show and didn't even know it

                                    Eileen


                                    "If the world were truly a rational place. men would ride side saddle." Rita Mae Brown

                                    The Long Island Horsemen's Society web page
                                    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/lihs/
                                    Eileen
                                    ~~Cowgirl Clique~~ ~~Reriders/AKA Fossils On The Flats Clique~~~


                                    \"Always saddle your own horse.\" Connie Reeves 1901-2003 Member of the Cowgirl Hall Of Fame

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                                    • At my barn we've started a "support group" for moms who are riding the horses that were purchased for their children..children who have either lost interest or gone away to school.

                                      We have five at my barn, and when I asked my vet he could think of a half dozen just off the top of his head!

                                      I think there are a lot of us out there.

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                                      • Boy, I can see right now that I will be a future member of your "club"! My daughter is a freshman in high school, and a member of an extremely active marching band (the fall semester is crazy!). I spent many years being a pony ring show mom, then finally when my daughter could tack up and handle her own horse, I went looking for another horse of my own. Got him last year, love him, and now that we have sold my daughter's app and are in the oh-so-fun process of looking for another for her, I am sharing mine. I ride my over-40 "fossil" classes (or whatever is available!)HUS, then turn him over to my daughter for halter, showmanship and WP. It works out OK since I'm a ways away from adding many WP classes for myself. We do have to watch it for my horse's sake and be selective about what classes we do since it makes for a long show for him, and several times we have scratched classes when he's indicated that he's had enough for today, Thank You! I too worry that we will find another wonderful horse for my daughter, then in three years, if not before, she willl be off to school... we board (the Atlanta area is difficult to find good horse prop AND still let hubby have reasonable commute to work downtown) so tis not cheap to have a horse in someplace nice and not be used. Who knows what will happen, maybe we will end up sharing mine, and perhaps leasing something else partime for her, and that's OK too since my gelding is young, and I have the rest of his life with him and I can wait three years to have him all to myself again!

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                                        • cedarboy - -
                                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 2 year old Morgan filly in WP...A Western Pleasure forum would be extremely helpful to me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                          I don't know if anyone has responded to you (I haven't checked all 6 pages of this thread), but showing western pleasure in Morgans and showing western pleasure in QHs (which, I suspect will encompass the majority of BBers) are two entirely different worlds. The similarity is that the riders wear chaps and hats and and the horses wear western saddles. The bits are all curbs (except on junior horses - 4 & under), but the styles - especially of the shanks - are quite different.
                                          The way of going is SO different you'd never know you were looking at the same class.
                                          You will NOT want to go to a QH trainer - you SHOULD go to a couple of Morgan shows (note that, in our area, these are often combined with Saddlebred shows and sometimes with Arabians or other 'gaited' breeds).
                                          Morgan western is much more 'compressed' than QH western - think of the difference between training level and grand prix level dressage - or between a short stirrup horse and a grand prix jumper - or between a country pleasure horse and a 3-gaited horse.
                                          Good luck - have fun. And as a final thought, I'd think twice about starting a 2-yr old 'in' any specific discipline. A lot of ground work, long-lining (out on trails is great exercise for both of you and will expose your filly to lots of new & fun stuff), working in tack and, toward the end of the year, a little saddle time - again, out on the trail in company, once you've been on her back a few times - will give you a much sounder mature horse.

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