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  • #61
    You've already talked to the parents. They don't seem to care.

    You say you don't *think* management will do much. Give them a chance at least. Let them know. And pose it as, "Hey, I don't know if you're aware, but some of these kids are just getting turned loose and it looks like a tremendous liability to me."

    And lastly...if parents are going to essentially leave their kids to the nearest adult in charge...then be the nearest adult in charge.

    Personally, I don't care if parents are standing right there with me. If someone is doing something dangerous, I correct it. Just like horses. Quick correction without anger. Just correcting behavior.

    I wouldn't even bother to discuss it with the parents. They'll come to you when Little Johnny complains about that mean lady who told him to get out from under her horse in the cross ties.

    Then you have an opportunity to explain, "Well ma'am, I figured you woudln't want little Johnny to get stomped, so I asked him to move."

    That's it. If they don't like your "parenting" style, tell them to feel free to do it themselves.
    A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

    Might be a reason, never an excuse...

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    • #62
      Please share some diplomatic ways to deal with this problem. How do I address these children? How do I address their mothers? What are effective things to say to the kids to make them ignore/avoid me? It seems like some people are far more casual about kids in barns and I just don't want to be involved with any of them if I can help it.
      1. Lock children in a stall.
      2. Walk by tapping a whip against your leg.
      3. Act unconcerned.

      Seriously though, if I were a BO I'd be very concerned about this liability, and that's the first tack I'd take--discussing it with the BO.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by BuddyRoo View Post
        You've already talked to the parents. They don't seem to care.

        You say you don't *think* management will do much. Give them a chance at least. Let them know. And pose it as, "Hey, I don't know if you're aware, but some of these kids are just getting turned loose and it looks like a tremendous liability to me."

        And lastly...if parents are going to essentially leave their kids to the nearest adult in charge...then be the nearest adult in charge.

        Personally, I don't care if parents are standing right there with me. If someone is doing something dangerous, I correct it. Just like horses. Quick correction without anger. Just correcting behavior.

        I wouldn't even bother to discuss it with the parents. They'll come to you when Little Johnny complains about that mean lady who told him to get out from under her horse in the cross ties.

        Then you have an opportunity to explain, "Well ma'am, I figured you woudln't want little Johnny to get stomped, so I asked him to move."

        That's it. If they don't like your "parenting" style, tell them to feel free to do it themselves.

        I totally agree with this. If the kids are acting dangerously, correct them, but theres no need to be nasty to the kids.

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        • #64
          Have to agree... speak w/ BO first.

          My barn is mostly kids. And I mean mostly (85%).

          They ignore their parents but when I tell them to knock it off, they stop what they are doing. *shrug* But I don't put up with any nonsense. Never have, never will.

          We all get along just fine. And all in all, the kids are pretty good. Most are in the 10-14 age range. The younger ones are just lesson kids so they aren't there long and the trainer is with them the entire time.

          But my BM/Head Trainer isn't tolerant of bad behaviour either. So she nips it in the bud pretty quickly if she's around. But if she's not? Then I kinda take over. I'm the one adult that's been there the longest and the kids know the best.

          It's funny... I can reprimand them but they don't get mad at me for doing so. They actually respect me. Wish they'd do the same for their parents. Now not all of them are "bad". There are just a few that are a bit "rough around the edges".

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          • #65
            Originally posted by JollyBadger View Post
            Later, while the mom was out riding and the BM was left to "babysit," I overheard the BM ask the kid if he knew how to hog-tie. The BM is a bit of a character, and sure enough -- when I walked out of the barn, I saw the kid sitting on the ground with his legs tied together. . .and hooked to one of the ties on the hitching post. The BM was just sitting on the porch, looking smug and smoking a cigarette. It's actually a very kid-friendly barn, they just have interesting ways of dealing with the unfriendly kids.
            Every kid-run barn should have a curmudgeonly cowboy like this!
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            • #66
              Originally posted by linquest View Post
              Every kid-run barn should have a curmudgeonly cowboy like this!
              It was a classic "backwoods barn" moment, and one of the many reasons I love it there. The same guy has told a couple of rather rude, obnoxious little girls from down the street that I am actually a witch, and that my (solid black) horse eats children. Neither are true, of course, but at least it gets them to leave me and my horse alone.
              Please copy and paste this to your signature if you know someone, or have been affected by someone who needs a smack upside the head. Lets raise awareness.

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              • #67
                Forward this article to the BO

                http://www.equinelegalsolutions.com/...ngstables.html

                Luckily at my barn the BO is very strict and all kids are not only expected to behave, but also to have manners! I sometimes can't believe how nice and well behaved the children are there, but it's all about expectations.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by JollyBadger View Post
                  The same guy has told a couple of rather rude, obnoxious little girls from down the street that I am actually a witch, and that my (solid black) horse eats children.
                  I think I am having a crush on your BM!
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                  • #69
                    Children left unatended in a barn are going to get hurt. Its not if, its when.

                    Talk to your barn manager/owner about your concerns. Parents need to be made aware of the dangers and there needs to be consequences. They don't provide free daycare. Perhaps a rotating schedual of a parents watching. They might have to watch once a week or two weeks. Or chipping in and getting a supervisor for a couple hours. There are solutions.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                      Euthanasia.
                      I'm so glad to be in a "child-free" barn. My BO has no use for children, is past child-bearing age and since it's a private barn, there are only two of us with outside horses, so it's just perfect.

                      I did board at a bigger facility before moving here, and my mare, to this day, is head-shy from little hellions messing with her at her stall. It's taken nearly 4 years to get her to allow anyone to pet her face when she's at her stall. The funny thing now is, if she doesn't like someone, she'll back away from the door and turn her butt around. (this is while she's stalled, in her own space, not when someone comes into the stall). She has a large stall now with a run, and she'll just up and leave if she feels crowded.

                      So, yes, unattended children can wreck havoc on not just the barn, but the mental stability of the animals involved too. It disrupts their peace of mind as well.
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                      • #71
                        To everybody who responded:

                        Thank you very much for your advice, resources, links, experiences, and humor. It has put this situation into perspective for me. I feel a lot better about being more vocal to management and to the parents. There is indeed an unattended children clause in the board agreement and I'll be sure to mention it if I need to.

                        I'm happy to spend time with kids who like horses, but the parents and kids in question about are taking advantage of the good nature of the people in my barn. We need to be more vigilant about the safety of everyone involved. I'll be better prepared next time I see the little buggers

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                        • #72
                          The best advice

                          As far as the behavior, I myself would have no problems telling the sweethearts that they need to stop it. Younger 4- 8 year olds....say "let's go find your mommy and stay with her"...and then take them by their hand and give the child to her. Sweetly tell mommy that her baby almost got kicked in the head/bit by the dog/sliced by the harrow/crushed by a stall door/electrocuted/whatever..make it really juicy.
                          This was the best advice!

                          That and locking them in the stall the 2nd time after this discussion with Mommy didn't work.

                          Third time, the insurance company/BO. That should wake up the BO!
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                          • #73
                            When I'm around kids that act like you're stating I just simply tell them in a firm voice (no need to yell..just yet), "Do not run around the horses." "If that does not belong to you do not touch it."

                            Just tell them straight up. Its the parents fault the kids dont behave...they didnt teach them otherwise.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by JollyBadger View Post
                              The same guy has told a couple of rather rude, obnoxious little girls from down the street that I am actually a witch, and that my (solid black) horse eats children.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by sublimequine View Post
                                I'd take it up with the BM or BO. I have NO patience for packs of feral children running rampant in the barn.
                                rotflmao feral kids... HAHAHAHAHA LOVE IT.

                                And Thankyou for reminding me to be thankful that I don't board my horses.
                                Last edited by Catersun; Feb. 7, 2009, 06:46 AM.
                                If i'm posting on Coth, it's either raining so I can't ride or it's night time and I can't sleep.

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                                • #76
                                  I knew a woman whose job it was to provide care for a child who became a vegitable at the age of 2 after being kicked in the head when he ran up behind his mothers horse. last time I talked with the woman the kid was about 9.He'd been lying in that bed for the last 7 years,unable to speak ,or do anything for himself...I'm just sayin'...

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                                  • #77
                                    It's a barn management issue.

                                    The barn owner needs to take responsibility.

                                    Needs to set clear rules, be consistent in their application and ensure that the premises are safe and pleasant for all customers.

                                    I ensure that parents understand what my rules and requirements are. I ensure they know there won't be exceptions and that they take responsibility when they're on site. I also ensure the children understand what they can and can't do and where they can and can't go. I ensure they follow the rules and that they're enforced. I ensure that no minor is running about unsupervised..... EVER.

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                                    • #78
                                      But Thomas...you probably run your business like a business and act like a Professional.
                                      When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by findeight View Post
                                        But Thomas...you probably run your business like a business and act like a Professional.
                                        Oops yes..... I keep forgetting that I'm old fashioned like that

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