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  • #161
    He does strike me as a potential stalker,having been through that myself.

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    • #162
      Reading through the posts and arriving at what I think is the subtext of this exchange, I feel like this guy feels his schedule should somehow pre-empt the seller. Not that there can't be a middle ground somewhere, but the feeling I get is that this man only values his own time and has no consideration at all for the seller. I don't know if he treats everyone that way or he's striving for some perceived upper hand because she is a woman, but I don't know if anyone has tried to get a horse sale to ride on "giving my word". That * might * work if said person was someone I knew well, but otherwise it applies an intimacy of sorts that simply does not exist and/or a reliance on a standard that is unfortunately pretty dead in this day and age. I'd be uncomfortable with both. This guy seems like a real nut...does he feel like a cowboy from the Old West because he wants to buy this horse? Because if so, I think if you can't dodge his figurative bullet you might take one, speaking metaphorically.

      Give us an update when he shows up!

      Hey Buyer, bring the trainwreck...the others have died down! Your flames will be used to heat our homes until Spring fully arrives!
      America dialed 911. Donald Trump answered the phone.

      Stop pumping money into colleges and start getting ready to earn money in the projected tradesman shortage of 2024. Make Trades Great Again!

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      • #163
        Originally posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
        I have a Samsung he's discontinued the texting. ..for now...hopefully I've heard the last from him.
        How to block on an Android phone:
        http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...id-smartphone/

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        • #164
          Hope the tryout today went well.

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            #165
            Hi! Yes, the tryout went well! They have tried out a few different horses so are thinking it over and will let me know. But he went well, the girl rode him quite well, and they loved his personality.

            Everyone cross your fingers, and toes!
            "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."
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            • #166
              Perhaps this thread did not rise to trainwreck status but this:


              Originally posted by Highflyer View Post
              Maybe the reason he can't find a horse in Ohio is because everyone there already knows he's nuts.
              is my favorite post of all time!
              "I swear it happened just like this" - Leonard Cohen

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                #167
                So just because I was curious how many times I told this dude that meeting on Saturday wouldn't work, I went back to see just how many times...

                2/28
                ME: March 20th would work for me. The 19th (which is a Saturday) will not work because I will be driving back to VT from PA with a friend.

                3/1
                HIM: I’ll make March 20th work early in the morning. Thanks

                A few text messages back and forth for me to get info for the CVI that the horse will need to leave VT/enter other states. I was trying to get everything lined up so when he did come on the 20th, all that would be left was signing the registration papers over and completing a bill of sale, and exchange of money.

                Since some time had gone by, I sent a message on Thursday, 3/10
                ME: Are we still on for March 20th?

                HIM: Can’t wait to try him. In your 2/28 text you said you will be driving from PA. Can I pay you extra to carry him to PA?

                ME: No, we are driving to PA to meet up with other people and do not have time to have horse dealings. I am meeting a friend with two young kids and there is no wiggle room.

                HIM: Can we at least meet Saturday afternoon/evening?

                ME: No, sorry, I won’t be back until really late on Saturday. We are leaving PA Saturday morning. I can meet early morning Sunday the 20th which was our original date.

                HIM: Surely it’s a lot closer for you driving back from PA. It will be late afternoon/early evening when you get back to VT.

                ME: No. We will be stopping several times because of the baby. It’s going to be a 9 hour drive. It needs to be Sunday, that’s why I originally proposed the 20th.

                HIM: Can your parents meet me at the school on Saturday?

                ME: No. The 20th was the plan back on 3/1 that is what works for me. I can be at the barn early Sunday morning.

                These messages were then followed by his persistence for me to guarantee my horse sound which I posted about earlier in the thread.

                So, Friday I told him “I’ve thought this over and this sale is not going to work for me. Good luck in your search”

                That is where I left you all off without any more updates…

                His response: I’m just trying to make sure about soundness all typical questions by watching his videos. It appears we both are busy that weekend (YA THINK!?), babies are involved, and then it’s Easter. I’m just trying to be reasonable flexible, hoping you can do the same.



                ME: It’s not going to happen. Best of luck finding your next horse.

                HIM: Why?
                HIM: What is wrong, I’m just getting ready to make a trip is all
                HIM: I know this is hard for you
                HIM: I’m only doing what you wanted which was to come try him. You said you didn’t want him to stay local to you. You also said you would like to see him doing something he was bred to do. Now you are making it hard on me.

                That was all Friday afternoon/evening.

                Saturday morning,
                HIM: Please let me come try him on the 20th [now he wants to come on the date that works for me!]

                HIM: Here is [his breeder’s] phone number, please call him

                He wants me to call the breeder because they know each other so the breeder can serve as a reference for him.

                So, the point of this was to count how many times I told him I couldn’t meet on Saturday.

                Counting the original time, it looks like I had to tell him 5 times.

                What a tool. At the very least, he can't read for comprehension, and at the most, he's a bully.
                "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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                  #168
                  ETA: I have not heard from him since.
                  "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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                  • #169
                    Hope he finds another horse, closer to him.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Kwill View Post
                      Hope he finds another horse, closer to him.
                      Me too!
                      "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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                      • #171
                        Hmmm. So why doesn't he simply go to the breeder and buy a horse of similar pedigree?

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                        • #172
                          Originally posted by ThreeFigs View Post
                          Hmmm. So why doesn't he simply go to the breeder and buy a horse of similar pedigree?
                          I am thinking it likely that they are asking more.
                          America dialed 911. Donald Trump answered the phone.

                          Stop pumping money into colleges and start getting ready to earn money in the projected tradesman shortage of 2024. Make Trades Great Again!

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                          • #173
                            Hey OP - a tip for future sales dealings: You are being too nice. You do not need to explain to anyone WHY a particular day/time/location will not work for you. Just say no, sorry, not available on Saturday, I am only available on X days in the morning/evening/whatever. You don't need to tell them why, it's not their business.

                            If they push for a reason, you can say personal business or something of that nature but giving personal info about your schedule (going on a trip, meeting friends, etc) might lead buyers to think you are "friends" that will "give their word" the horse is sound and make handshake deals. He sounds like a tool and I would bet you money he was planning to take your horse roping that next weekend!

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                              #174
                              Originally posted by ThreeFigs View Post
                              Hmmm. So why doesn't he simply go to the breeder and buy a horse of similar pedigree?
                              Originally posted by RubyTuesday View Post
                              I am thinking it likely that they are asking more.
                              Breeder is no longer breeding. He's in his 70's and only has the stud left. No mares.

                              Re: being too nice. Yep, I know! Lesson learned!
                              "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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                              • #175
                                Originally posted by toady123 View Post
                                You need to be actively seeking other buyers for this horse. While his intentions may be genuine, this guy is behaving like a Class A tire kicker.
                                Oh yes! There are people out there that want to talk you to death. By your 4th post I thought that is what you might have. Too many friggin communications, I'd ask him "geezus, are you buying the horse or not"? "If not lose my number."

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                                • #176
                                  Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post
                                  Hey OP - a tip for future sales dealings: You are being too nice. You do not need to explain to anyone WHY a particular day/time/location will not work for you. Just say no, sorry, not available on Saturday, I am only available on X days in the morning/evening/whatever. You don't need to tell them why, it's not their business.

                                  If they push for a reason, you can say personal business or something of that nature but giving personal info about your schedule (going on a trip, meeting friends, etc) might lead buyers to think you are "friends" that will "give their word" the horse is sound and make handshake deals. He sounds like a tool and I would bet you money he was planning to take your horse roping that next weekend!
                                  Bingo. Whenever you offer reasons for your "No,", in any situation, what you are actually saying is These are the problems I am asking you to solve, in order to change my "No" to a "YES". It's an invitation to negotiate. So always be clear in your own mind: "Do I want to open up a negotiation on this point or not?" If not, then the reasons for your response are completely irrelevant and should not be offered. The answer is simply No.

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                                  • #177
                                    You might want to let the BO know that he still might try to show up, and that he is NOT to ride your horse. I once had a guy go to my trainer's barn UNANNOUNCED and UNACCOMPANIED to try out a horse I had for sale, with NO appointment on the table! It CAN happen! It's a worst case scenario but when you have a real pill kind of a buyer, you have to prepare for these sorts of things. It would not surprise me in the least.
                                    America dialed 911. Donald Trump answered the phone.

                                    Stop pumping money into colleges and start getting ready to earn money in the projected tradesman shortage of 2024. Make Trades Great Again!

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                                      #178
                                      Originally posted by RubyTuesday View Post
                                      You might want to let the BO know that he still might try to show up, and that he is NOT to ride your horse. I once had a guy go to my trainer's barn UNANNOUNCED and UNACCOMPANIED to try out a horse I had for sale, with NO appointment on the table! It CAN happen! It's a worst case scenario but when you have a real pill kind of a buyer, you have to prepare for these sorts of things. It would not surprise me in the least.

                                      Oh yes, I did that before I even told him don't bother. Just in case.
                                      "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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                                      • #179
                                        Originally posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
                                        Oh yes, I did that before I even told him don't bother. Just in case.
                                        Good! Here's hoping he stays put at home! If not...well, I'm sure you'll let us know.
                                        America dialed 911. Donald Trump answered the phone.

                                        Stop pumping money into colleges and start getting ready to earn money in the projected tradesman shortage of 2024. Make Trades Great Again!

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                                        • #180
                                          Never mind. I thought the OP should have made an effort to show him the horse, but I found page 8 where he really went off the rails and the OP had to give up. I get it now. Carry on!
                                          My warmbloods have actually drunk mulled wine in the past. Not today though. A drunk warmblood is a surly warmblood. - WildandWickedWarmbloods

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