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Slowing the canter - part 2!!!

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  • Slowing the canter - part 2!!!

    So a while ago I posted something for slowing down the ridiculously unbalanced and fast canter on my gaited standarbred. I got lots of helpful suggestions and put them to work. Since then Lucy is doing very well, but progress is slow. I know better than to expect anything more of her, but is there more I could be doing?

    I started off doing lots of trot-canter transitions, which usually at the time of, are a complete train wreck. BUT... they are paying off! About a month ago I asked her to speed up her trot for a posted trot and instead of picking up the trot, she picked up a beautiful 3-beat canter and held it for about three strides. I just about exploded when this happened. When we canter now she can hold about four strides of a solid canter before she breaks and starts four-beating it, but the best part is that she fixes herself from a rack back to the canter after she has broken it. She is VERY good about her leads. I have just about finished off balancing her trot and getting her to lift her back.

    I've also been doing a lot more english riding with her vs. western. I've cut back her western riding to just trail riding. Any work I do has been in an english seat. (Which I actually found someone to give me lessons for finally! )

    Now don't get me wrong, her canter is still horrendous, but now she is cantering. It is slowing, little by little. I am still fighting her hot-ness, but we as a team have been a lot more effective at cooling her down and keeping her at a working pace lately.

    So now that she is actually cantering and not like... galloping slowly and racking, what can I do WHILE she is cantering to get her to use her back, improve her balance, get her to keep the canter, ect.

    Thank you in advance, (I know this is kind of jumbled ^^') -Liena
    Read at least some of the posts... The only one I care to repeat myself to is the 1200 lb one.

  • #2
    Transitions are your friend. At all gaits, within and between. If all she can offer is three strides at a time then take it and build on that. Go for three strides, come down to a trot. Come down to a walk and praise her. Then trot again and walk again. Lots of transitions. Then canter again for a few strides. Praise. Transitions. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
    "A horse's face always conveys clearly whether it is loved by its owner or simply used." - Anja Beran

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    • #3
      If (and I mean IF) you can get her to understand the idea of cantering from a walk, that can help get the idea across to a horse that you don't need speed to canter. Some horses take to the idea easily, and it's useful. If it makes them upset or it's a struggle after about five tries, shelve the idea and try it again a month or so later. It helps if you have experience in setting a horse up for canter from walk.
      This is a bit "out of order" in terms of the progression of dressage training, but it's one of those things that can help if the horse "gets" the idea. You only do as many strides of canter that you can do "clean". If it tends to make her more jumbled up in her beats, drop it.

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        #4
        I tried asking Lucy to canter from a walk last night, there was a lot of rushy trotting between walk and canter but she didn't have time to speed up so fast before she reached the canter. So we did a lot of walk to trot, trot to canter, canter to trot, trot to walk, walk to canter (kind of) and so on. She got up to a good six decent strides and about half way around the arena without breaking. That you so much for the advice, this will definitely become a regular part of the routine on the days we work her canter. Transitions transitions transitions. Just needed to add that little walk-canter transition in there.
        Read at least some of the posts... The only one I care to repeat myself to is the 1200 lb one.

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          Also, do you have trails that you can ride out on? When I was teaching my mustang to canter (and boy howdy, was it ugly - steering went out the window and his balance was all over the place except for where it should have been), sometimes we'd just go out on the trails and have a nice forward and STRAIGHT canter down the trail. It is hard when they always have to turn a corner if you are in an arena. Sometimes it helps to just be able to go straight for a while.
          "A horse's face always conveys clearly whether it is loved by its owner or simply used." - Anja Beran

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pocket Pony View Post
            Transitions are your friend. At all gaits, within and between. If all she can offer is three strides at a time then take it and build on that. Go for three strides, come down to a trot. Come down to a walk and praise her. Then trot again and walk again. Lots of transitions. Then canter again for a few strides. Praise. Transitions. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
            You want these downward transitions to be the result of your having asked for them, not her breaking because she's lost her balance. If you know you can get four strides, ask for the downward at three. And remember to ride the downward transitions forward.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Pocket Pony View Post
              Also, do you have trails that you can ride out on? When I was teaching my mustang to canter (and boy howdy, was it ugly - steering went out the window and his balance was all over the place except for where it should have been), sometimes we'd just go out on the trails and have a nice forward and STRAIGHT canter down the trail. It is hard when they always have to turn a corner if you are in an arena. Sometimes it helps to just be able to go straight for a while.
              We have a dirt road we ride down all the time and an abandoned (safe) old race track that only raced thoroughbreds for like a year. The only thing about that is Lucy likes to go... like, strap some jet propulsion systems to her back end... She is very hot especially away from the barn so its really hard to keep her back in a canter if I let her start going into any gait above a trot. BUT... I believe there is fruit to be had here, so I'm gonna try it c: This is actually how I first got her to canter, by taking her back and up while she was racking.
              Read at least some of the posts... The only one I care to repeat myself to is the 1200 lb one.

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                Originally posted by SillyHorse View Post
                You want these downward transitions to be the result of your having asked for them, not her breaking because she's lost her balance. If you know you can get four strides, ask for the downward at three. And remember to ride the downward transitions forward.
                I have been sure to (try to) do this, but with only a few (three avg.) strides its difficult to ask her to come back down to a trot (or a nervous pace) in such a short distance. However now that she is going longer before breaking I can do this. I had a full 5-10 mins of solid unbroken canter segments last night with her and I was able to ask her to trot before she broke into a rack. I'll remember to reinforce this for myself.

                -transitions transitions transitions
                -Walk-canter transitions
                -straight away's
                -Trot before break
                Read at least some of the posts... The only one I care to repeat myself to is the 1200 lb one.

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                • #9
                  Don't try cantering heading back to the barn...you might get run off with.

                  Are you able to longe her at all? Anyone there able to show you how to use side reins for longing? It's important to do it correctly, with a helmet and gloves and whip, and make sure that she doesn't start off with tight side reins, and that she go forward with them. If you have someone that knows how to do it properly it can really help them learn to balance.

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                    I'll have to look into that. I do lunge her, but it frankly doesn't do anything for her aside from the trot-canter transitions. She had a stupidly never-ending reservoir of infinite stamina so groundwork gets through to her, just not... lunging.
                    Read at least some of the posts... The only one I care to repeat myself to is the 1200 lb one.

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