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  • #21
    Originally posted by caffeinated View Post
    But honestly, your current horse isn't working because you don't click. So why would you jump into another impulse buy based only on a small amount of information available online or from emails? ....

    It just seems like impulse-buying a horse, based on its color and a dream you had, is a great way to set yourself up for disappointment.
    Double-ditto this.

    Don't fall in love with a horse's advertisement. Wait until you can actually fall in love with a horse.
    ...somewhere between the talent and the potato....

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    • #22
      From what I read he sounded sold. Perhaps I've misunderstood the context of the information in this link you originally posted:
      http://ottbsuccessstories.com/succes.../dr-kenny-winn
      At the top it reads, "...He was sold to racing before we could find him a home. This is his photo as listed on the CANTER Web site January 28, 2009. See his before photo below. Please make a donation to a Thoroughbred rescue group like CANTER. You might not be able to save this horse, but you can make a difference in the lives of many other Thoroughbreds." (my emphasis added)
      And from further down the same page, " ...S. R. King of Queens was one of the most memorable horses we tried to find a home for. He was kind and gentle and just wanted to be someone’s special friend. Instead, he was sold down in racing..."

      When I hear that a horse is "sold down" in racing, to me that most typically means the horse went from one trainer's string to another trainer who is focused at a lower level--either at the same track or moving to a track with an overall lower level of competition. So, on the page you linked it appears to me that KoQ has sold and is still racing (or prepping--I think the BP season literally *just* started).

      Someone with a different take or knowledge feel free to correct me. I'm far from an expert on the ins- and outs - of TB Racing...Heck, I don't even play one on TV.

      Hope this helps clarify my initial post.
      Rev
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. - GK Chesterton

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      • #23
        I agree with what others have said. You don't know anything about this horse as far as his temperament, soundness, etc. or whether he will be any better for you than your current horse.

        It's nice for you to want to help him, but there are lots of other horses out there, too, that need homes. There will be others if you need to wait until the time is right.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Hoofpick View Post
          I agree with what others have said. You don't know anything about this horse as far as his temperament, soundness, etc. or whether he will be any better for you than your current horse.

          It's nice for you to want to help him, but there are lots of other horses out there, too, that need homes. There will be others if you need to wait until the time is right.
          Agreed. Rather than getting dreamy about this horse she's never met, it would seem way more sensible to unload the horse that she does not click with, then fly to OH and check out the CANTER horses. Finding a suitable horse this way can be a longshot, but your odds would improve if you actually meet the horse up there, maybe with a friend or a trainer who can give you their "neutral" perspective.
          Love my "Slow-T T B"
          2010 OTTB, Dixie Union x Dash for Money

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            #25
            Well, exactly, which is why many posts ago I mentioned that I should focus closer to home.

            Problem is, it is difficult in this stupid state I live in, as for whatever reason, it is populated almost entirely by dinky 14 hh cowponies. I am 6 feet tall. I have to have a horse that is 16 hh or better, preferably 16.2 or more, and I looked for months to find my current horse (16 hh). I looked at so stinkin many horses in rocky pastures (not one with a decent place to try the horse), trying to evaluate movement and potential aptitude for eventing on horses that had no shoes but needed them desperately, ones that would barely move, ones that bucked, one that I think had epm, one that was severely foundered, etc- so please take this into account before jumping to conclusions about me. One was sold out from underneath me, by a seller that told me she didn't do that sort of thing because she had had it done to her and it stinks. Why did she say that if she didn't mean it???? I would have probably offered more and moved more quickly with the sale! All this is why I "settled" for my current horse- to be honest I knew he had the issues he has but thought training would resolve at least some of them but I CANNOT get any impulsion out of him and I guess he isn't going to develop any; he didn't have shoes and I thought that was part of it but he is stuck in a sort of Western riding jog-trot and it isn't changing. I can't stand it. You can't post to it, he just barely creeps along. I am working with a trainer and she has had no luck with him either, despite having thought the same thing when we got him.
            All these things are why I am looking far afield. And while "money is not a problem" with a $2,500 horse, it does become one with a $25,000 horse.

            My old horse I loved came to me as an OTTB greenie, but when he left me he was not a greenie anymore. This current horse is an OTTB. I DO KNOW A WEE BIT ABOUT OTTBs, ok? My friends ride- oh, I bet you guessed it, OTTBs. That would be why I am looking at OTTBs.

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            • #26
              I fell in love with a POA pony sight unseen over the Internet from Washington state two years ago based on a picture and a paragraph.

              he was on a feedlot and time was of the essence. within several days I had adopted him, gotten him hauled to a Quarantine location, had a vet see him for strangles and vaccinations, had the local farrier school trim his feet.

              in two months he was in Chicago.

              with the help of many many horse people these things are very possible.

              ps this pony is the love of my life and I couldn't be happier with him. all of the money and logistics were totally worth it.

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              • #27
                A friend of mine adopted from CANTER Ohio a few years ago. She flew up there, met the horse, evaluated his movement, vetted him, sat on him, fell in love with him, brought him back to Florida.

                Once in training, it was clear that he was not going to work for her, and she found another home for him.

                My point is that it's an uncertain proposition with any OTTB even one you check out in person, and much more so it you order the horse over the internet without ANY knowledge of it other than what's posted online.

                Just my opinion, but I would hop on a flight and go see a few some weekend.
                Love my "Slow-T T B"
                2010 OTTB, Dixie Union x Dash for Money

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                • #28
                  To those who are asking, yes, as of yesterday, the horse IS for sale. He was sold earlier before the people on the one website could find a non-racing home for him, and now he is on the CANTER Ohio website as his current owner/trainer says he is not winning races, he is "just too slow." Current owner/trainer is asking $2,500.
                  "Uh, if you're going to try that, shouldn't you unplug it first?"

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