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  • #21
    It's funny, having seen the Halter style QH's is what make me convinced The Very Nice Horse is a QH- even on NO work he has muscles bugling in his chest and gaskins. Given he is in his late 20's and no history of HYPP attacks I haven't had him tested (he's a pasture pet mostly), but it amazes me to compare him with my TB who lives the identical lifestyle, totally different metabolic tendencies and muscleing patterns!
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    • #22
      Originally posted by Sithly View Post
      Yep. That'd be Sir Cool Skip. http://www.bertonqh.com/index_bqh.htm Click on "More About Sir Cool Skip" for more pictures. And if you really want to make your eyes bleed, check out their "Gallery" page.
      He's always in long grass, too. I wonder what his feet look like.
      Originally posted by tidy rabbit
      Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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      • #23
        i am going to have NIGHTMARES about that stud.

        not even kidding.

        yikes. why would one breed something so creepy and unnatural looking?
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          #24
          Originally posted by City Ponies View Post
          Not all halter horses are like that, some do have a job. I hope you don't generalize too much.

          First line: "I have nothing against well put together horses with great conformation. I'm just not a fan of the overly-ripped muscled horses that are only good for showing in halter."
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          • #25
            Originally posted by HydroPHILE View Post
            First line: "I have nothing against well put together horses with great conformation. I'm just not a fan of the overly-ripped muscled horses that are only good for showing in halter."

            I get really opinionated about this, because it seems like the winning halter horses, besides being all huge and muscly, DON'T have great conformation. Straight shoulders, tight shoulder-humerus angles, extremely short armbones, straight pasterns, post hocks. I just don't understand how that represents the "ideal" QH- it's not functional. And while not all halter QHs are built that way, it seems the most promoted ones share a lot of those traits.
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            • #26
              My response wasn't directed at you. Sorry!
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                #27
                Unfortunately, when I did a search looking for "halter horses" on google, I saw some REALLY nice halter horses with great conformation...not overly muscly, etc. that were placed lower than the muscle-bound horses. My concern is for the soundness/health of the over-muscled horses.
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Sithly View Post
                  Yep. That'd be Sir Cool Skip. http://www.bertonqh.com/index_bqh.htm Click on "More About Sir Cool Skip" for more pictures. And if you really want to make your eyes bleed, check out their "Gallery" page.


                  WOW! Incredible conditioning! They must put a lot of effort into body sculpting. I use to date Mr. Illinois in 1978 - he spent HOURS every day to look the way he did. He is a leanly built Chiropractor now - you'd never know he was a muscle man decades ago - Not unlike my horse his muscled up beef cake past reflects very little on the incredible hunter he is now. Except he knows how to look good! And has exceptional conformation.

                  Remember what ever event you are in you must condition appropriately!
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Penthilisea View Post
                    It's funny, having seen the Halter style QH's is what make me convinced The Very Nice Horse is a QH- even on NO work he has muscles bugling in his chest and gaskins. Given he is in his late 20's and no history of HYPP attacks I haven't had him tested (he's a pasture pet mostly), but it amazes me to compare him with my TB who lives the identical lifestyle, totally different metabolic tendencies and muscleing patterns!

                    Absolutely!

                    Hey I saw your siggy i use to have fybromyalgia - it sucked! Sorry to hear you have to deal with it
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Sithly View Post
                      Yep. That'd be Sir Cool Skip. http://www.bertonqh.com/index_bqh.htm Click on "More About Sir Cool Skip" for more pictures. And if you really want to make your eyes bleed, check out their "Gallery" page.
                      GACK!!! Even the foals look like mutants. I can't get over the horses back ends. They dont' look like horses to me

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                        #31
                        Originally posted by Scaramouch View Post
                        That's him as a three-year-old according to the filename.
                        // Disregard this. I, obviously, cannot read nor do math
                        Last edited by HydroPHILE; Jan. 30, 2009, 03:12 PM.
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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by HydroPHILE View Post
                          Actually....the breeders are either lying or they can't do math.

                          The photo filename (http://www.bertonqh.com/images/skipp...e_bw.jpg)reads that the horse is three years old in 1993. So that would mean in 2006, the horse was 13; how does that happen?

                          If a horse was 3 in 1993...then the horse was born in 1990.
                          In 2006, the horse would be 16...not 13.
                          According to the horse's registry info, it says the horse was FOALED in 1993. Therefore, the horse....the caption reading "3 years old in 1993" is incorrect. Who knows when the top photo was taken.
                          "1993 Bay Stallion" is listing his birth year, his color and his gender. I do not think it is a caption for the photo above it. I don't see ANYWHERE where they say he's 3 in 1993. I do see that the file name of that conformation shot is "skipper_side_profile_at_three_bw.jpg"

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                          • #33
                            Originally posted by redears View Post
                            He was the older type bloodlines (Robert Redford breeding)
                            Just a passing question, having just wrapped up my annual volunteer stint at Bob's festival...when did he become an expert breeder, he does have horses for riding, but that's all I know about!

                            Anyhow, on the topic at hand- I showed quarter horses at halter in the 60s and 70s. One in particular that I showed for a friend did quite well, I think he was only worse than 1st once (when I showed him and got a 2nd place). I also showed him in western pleasure and he did okay, but lordy, in general even back then, those halter horses are/were an uncomfortable ride!

                            Mainly, I showed in halter classes because it was required in order to qualify for the all-around or high point awards. I do agree that QH halter has gotten WAY down the wrong path. A conformation class should be about good conformation, including feet, that makes for a more useful RIDING horse!. We seem to have gone to the absurd stage now because AQHA now has 'performance' halter classes. Hello? Why are you aspiring for good conformation in a horse if not for better performance? However, I don't see it changing, too much profit margin and too many people who get a kick out of winning an in-hand class versus actually riding the beast.

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by Dispatcher View Post
                              GACK!!! Even the foals look like mutants. I can't get over the horses back ends. They dont' look like horses to me
                              When I looked at the stud, the thought that came to my mind was from Young Frankenstein, Abby Someone, Abby who, Abby Normal.
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                              • #35
                                Holy crap...the only way I'd breed to that stallion would be if I wanted to start a line bred solely for human-consumption slaughter. He could out-muscle beef cattle.
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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by Simkie View Post
                                  I do see that the file name of that conformation shot is "skipper_side_profile_at_three_bw.jpg"
                                  Yep - I'm a moron and still on meds. I was overthinking some math.
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                                  Originally posted by talkofthetown
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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by Beverley View Post
                                    Just a passing question, having just wrapped up my annual volunteer stint at Bob's festival...when did he become an expert breeder, he does have horses for riding, but that's all I know about!
                                    There was a quarter horse by the name of Robert Redford.
                                    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/robert+redford
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                                    • #38
                                      Originally posted by Murphy's Mom View Post
                                      There was a quarter horse by the name of Robert Redford.
                                      http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/robert+redford
                                      Oh. Duh. Cute fella, actually looks like he'd be a decent ride!

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                                      • #39
                                        Eh, check out these:

                                        http://www.doublelacres.com/DCPrecision.html
                                        A great example of a broodmare : http://www.ellisquarterhorses.com/bunnynew2006.htm

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                                          #40
                                          Originally posted by RedMare01 View Post
                                          Eh, check out these:

                                          http://www.doublelacres.com/DCPrecision.html

                                          Caitlin
                                          How sad that this stallion died at age 7. "When they went to feed, he had passed away in his stall."
                                          If wishes were horses then beggars would ride...
                                          DLA: Draft Lovers Anonymous
                                          Originally posted by talkofthetown
                                          As in, the majikal butterfly-fahting gypsy vanners.

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