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  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by breezymeadow:
    Bliss - you ain't gonna instil this sort of stellar behavior in this twit. She apparently feels that the sun & moon rise & set over her & her horsey.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    WHAT is going on here? Beezymeadow, why would you name-call a kid? I mean, folks do it all the time, but you? You? Name-calling? I am so confused.

    Has the whole world gone mad?? Next thing ya know, DMK is going to be starting a "Bush-Dole in 2004" campaign.

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    • Now I'M confused. What name calling? "Twit"? Is that what you all are talking about? Must be, because that's the only thing I can find in my posts.

      And I REFUSE to retract it, if that's what the brouhaha is about. This poster has the nerve to post on a public board that her parents are too "lazy" to drive her to the barn to see her horse????

      Please guys. If you want to razz me about any other post of mine, feel free. Just not this one.

      My body is a temple - unfortunately, it's a "fixer-upper".

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      • WHEN *I* was young I had to walk 20 miles to feed my horse before school and 20 miles to school, then 20 miles back to feed and then home again!.............


        Ok, just kidding, it was more like 7 miles, but I did it before school AND after school because my father could not afford a boarding barn and guess what? They were the happiest years of my life.

        Start walking or running kid!

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        • Gotcha

          Tosca


          You have a PT, Tosca.

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          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by breezymeadow:
            Now I'M confused. What name calling? "Twit"? Is that what you all are talking about? Must be, because that's the only thing I can find in my posts.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
            That's what I was referring to. I was just not expecting to see you name-call a kid. Other people, yes. You, no.

            But I didn't mean to razz you. Just giving you some light ribbing about the unexpected shot at the kid. Sorry.

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            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by b0rntofly:
              Well I don't want to be typical.

              ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


              Well, you certainly aren't THAT. Most kids would never have the gall to come on a public forum and call their mother lazy. Quit feeling sorry for yourself, put on some boots and walk yourself out to the barn--or get a job and have a taxi take you. Do something-you are the captain of your ship. Quit blaming others for your situation and step up to the plate.

              You have a lot to be thankful for-I guess you have missed out on those posts these last 7 pages. Like I tell my kids who watch Cribs on MTV and think everyone has that much money, and live lives like Jessican Simpson-get over it. We don't have that money, and it won't ever happen. If you want to live that way, get a good education and I wish you luck-I'll come visit.

              Until then, please try to appreciate what you DO have instead of bitching about what you don't. I certainly wasn't lucky enough to have a horse at your age.

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              • Am laughing as I type this. . . ..

                although still refuse to retract one iota (gee, do you think she knows what an "iota" is??) of my posts.

                I began my love of horses at the age of 4. My parents couldn't even BEGIN to think of buying me a pony/horse. It just wasn't in the cards/budget. At the age of 10 I did get to take once a week riding lessons - granted that my grandmother or a neighbor could take me (my mother never learned to drive).

                This is WHY I find it so unbelievably obnoxious that this child has the audacity to post on a public board that her parents are LAZY because they won't drive her to the barn to see her horse.

                AGAIN I SAY - boo hoo. Get your little twit self a bike or some friends (gee, why isn't that a surprise. . . ) & tote yourself to the barn. You are lucky enough to have a horse of your own!!!!!!!!!

                And to those of you who feel that I am being too harsh here, too bad.

                My body is a temple - unfortunately, it's a "fixer-upper".

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                • Oy vey, breezy... the irony of this is that I DID wake up on the wrong side of the bed and I'm the one cutting her some slack. : Maybe its that I'm not so far removed from the teen years, or maybe I just feel bad for kids these days. I dunno. But I'm usually the last one to be a softy.

                  I can tell ya one thing, though. These smatterings of posts from teenagers, especially those on the h/j board, make me seriously consider whether I ever want spawn of my own.

                  ~formerly Master Tally~

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                  • I'm not insightful enough to tell you why, but for some reason, hearing about how some folks have less than others and some folks should be happy with what they have and some folks never had a horse or a lesson or whatever, the following Glenn Frey lyrics come to mind:

                    There's another kind of poverty
                    That only rich men know
                    A moral malnutrition
                    That starves their very souls


                    Damned if I know how it is relevant, but there it is, for what it is worth.

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                    • breezy--

                      I am not siding with BTF. Personally I agree that calling parents lazy is extremely rude, probably inaccurate, and not something I would ever do even in the worst of circumstances, because I know my parents aren't lazy.

                      That said, I do think you're being overly cruel-- she has shown some vague signs of remorse/improvement, and I truly believe that calling her a snotty twit is neither helpful nor polite. After all, you don't know her. Maybe she is spoiled, but maybe she's depressed and experiences severe emotional issues if she doesn't see her horse regularly.

                      In that case I would recommend her explain this to her mother and ask how rides could be arranged in exchange for work etc.

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                      • Whoa whoa whoa! Or as one old poster's username said WHOA DAMMIT!

                        This is getting, how shall I say it? Counterproductive?

                        Can I try (gently) to steer the topic into the realm of cool, calm thinking?

                        BTF:
                        I am going to make the assumption that you are not an evil teenager. I am going to make the assumption that you are not as gifted in the world of written communication as some of us are (like ME! ). I am going to make the assumption that you are very frustrated and don't know how to approach your folks.

                        (Bear with me here, I haven't read all the posts.)

                        Here is a suggestion (or two):

                        "(Mom/Dad), I know it's rotten weather. I know it gets dark way too early. But I really need to visit the horse, it helps me deal with life. When would be a convenient time for you? I really appreciate you doing this for me." (a hug would not be out of order, here)

                        "(Mom/Dad), how 'bout a "family" night? We could go out to the barn, and then afterwards can we stop at (restaurant of choice) and have a nice meal together and guess what!?!? No dishes!" (Again, a hug would not be out of order)

                        "(Mom/Dad), is there any chance you could run me out to the barn? We drive right by (hardware store/bookstore/grocery store) and you can swing by and pick up that (hammer/book on dealing with teenage daughters/pot roast) you've been wanting." (Ditto the hug)

                        The point here is, try to make it more of a "can we get together 'cause I miss you guys" than a "I demand you do this for me and you should do it because you are my parents" kind of thing. Another assumption I dare make is that your parents find NOTHING appealing about the trip to the barn so you need to work on making it more fun for them, either by turning it into quality time with you (Okay, okay, I can hear you gagging but it's true) or something for THEM.

                        I have a 15 year old daughter who has totally lost interest in going to the barn, so now I find myself making that drive all by myself and BTF, I wish I wish I wish it weren't that way. I miss her.

                        Give your mom a hug. If she's going through the same (caution: euphemism for menopause ahead) "changes" I am, it is a very, very bumpy road. Remember when you first started changing, how exciting it was? You were growing into a woman! Well, this change is kinda the opposite, our blooms are fading and it's a very poignant time.

                        Be patient and kind to your parents. Your sacrifices will be repaid in triplicate.

                        Take care. And I am still assuming you aren't the spoiled little brat you make yourself out to be.

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                        -Louisa May Alcott
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                        • Wanderlust - let's just cry on each others shoulders - & let this stupid brat figure out her own problem. . . . .

                          My body is a temple - unfortunately, it's a "fixer-upper".

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                          • I haven't got a maternal bone in my body, but I understand BTF's position. She has said that her mother is clinically depressed, which probably means that there are problems in the household. BTF has implied that she is very unhappy. The horse is her escape. Yes, she is lucky to have a horse, but maybe she is paying for it in other ways. I have some experience along these lines. My horse was my lifeline.

                            To BTF: I had a very rocky start, but things worked out very well for me. I have a career I love, I still have a horse, and I'm happy. You probably can't do anything to change your situation right now, but hang in there. Get the best education you can, get a good job, and stay passionate about your riding. Good luck.

                            Tosca

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                            • Gee-ee-eez!!! Some of you are being WAY too mean to this kid! I think following your own advice would be a good thing - you're all telling her to get a change of attitude and not say rude things about her parents, but you're saying it rudely and calling her a "twit", etc.

                              Just as a parent is more inclined to help the teenager who shows true appreciation and a good attitude, don't you think the teenager here is far more likely to take your advice if you actually offer it with a little less vitriol?

                              Personally, what I see is that BTF is actually taking the comments to heart. She's figuring out that her mom is doing a LOT and in 7 pages has gone from complaining that her mom is lazy to recognizing that her mom has a LOT to deal with. That shows more maturity than y'all are crediting her with - there are some kids on this board who simply ignore all criticism or harsh advice completely. At least she's acknowledged that she needs to change her attitude! I say good for her!

                              And honestly, riding a bicycle in a Minnesota winter is just not an easy thing to do. Nor is walking in that kind of weather. During the summers, yeah, I'd recommend she do that, but not during harsh weather. That can be downright dangerous.

                              'K, I'm done.

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                              • wanderlust...in reply to your having children...BE VERY VERY CAREFUL... you could be old, broke and on meds in no time flat.

                                BTF...I left you alone for a few hours and you seem to have gotten yourself into trouble again. 1) Accept responsibility for yourself (including remarks you've made on this BB). 2) Accept that you are never going to get EVERYTHING you want. 3) Work towards getting what you want, ON YOUR OWN. If you are 6 months away from the legal driving age, you are WAY old enough to put some energy into this.

                                Since my last post, I've learned you and your mother are on meds...your mother for depression and you for ?. There is more going on than you're telling us and more than you probably should tell us. I'm assuming if you're on meds, you may have a physician or counselor you could talk to. Give that a try instead of us. You've made yourself look like a, in breezymeadow's term , a twit.



                                [This message was edited by BelladonnaLily on Jan. 20, 2004 at 07:15 PM.]

                                [This message was edited by BelladonnaLily on Jan. 20, 2004 at 08:12 PM.]

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                                • So wait a second....

                                  We've got posts running wild about absentee owners, and posts about parents who won't even drive us to the barn. I'm confused. Why do these things add up?


                                  I know where BTF is coming from. I also know that just because you do all the chores and say please and thank you night and day, doesn't mean that depressed parents will drive you. I did every chore thinkable, said please and thank you and dotted every i, yet last may my mom said she didn't feel like paying for anything anymore. No lessons, no lease, nada.


                                  I can't walk and I can't ride a bike; my mom doesn't think its safe for me to walk on the gravel sides of a two lane highway, even if its only 10 miles.


                                  I'd just like to say this though; I'm not razzing those who say BTF is spoiled and needs to appreciate her horse, and I'm not razzing BTF. All I want to say to b0rnt0fly is, just hang in there. try to do what you can, and if it doesn't work, you'll find a way. My instructor said, and I quote, "She's too talented of a rider for me to let her stop." And she's kept that opinion to this day.

                                  If your parents manage to fall into some financial trouble, or just decide they don't want the burden... you'll find a way to be around the horses, and if as its been said you really are spoiled(IMO you're not), you'll find all the humbling you need in your search.


                                  I work hard for what I have, and its not much. No horse, no license, no car, no rides. Not all teens don't have a job and expect everything in the world, guys; I work my arse off at school, AND working at the barn for my instructor, AND at a job. I also have things to do around the house. No matter who we are or where we go, we'll all find a time that will humble us beyond our very belief... until then, no one can change a thing about anyone.

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                                  • "vague signs of improvement"

                                    Like, where??????

                                    And "vague signs of improvement" mean, like, what??? That 6 months from now she MIGHT drive her mom to the supermarket???

                                    My body is a temple - unfortunately, it's a "fixer-upper".

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                                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> and you can swing by and pick up that (hammer/book on dealing with teenage daughters/pot roast) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                      You ARE gifted, hitch!

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                                      • WHOA, WHOA, WHOA

                                        Granted - I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box, but I at least think I can keep on topic.

                                        My personal "fury" here is that a youngster had the audacity to post on a public board that her parents were too "LAZY" to drive her to the barn to see her horse.

                                        She obviously doesn't have a clue as to what might be going on in her "family unit" that might premeditate "barn" shuttles. Nor does she seem to care. Except for "herself" obviously - otherwise why post on a public board?

                                        My body is a temple - unfortunately, it's a "fixer-upper".

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                                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heinz 57:

                                          I work hard for what I have, and its not much. No horse, no license, no car, no rides. Not all teens don't have a job and expect everything in the world, guys; I work my arse off at school, AND working at the barn for my instructor, AND at a job. I also have things to do around the house. No matter who we are or where we go, we'll all find a time that will humble us beyond our very belief... until then, no one can change a thing about anyone.

                                          <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                          that's just it Hienz 57. Until BTF decides she really wants it and stops relying on other people to give it to her, it's not going to happen.

                                          It's like all the people who in the past have asked me to teach them how to play guitar. Now, playing guitar is not "easy" but it is something you can teach yourself. I would show them a few things, readily give them chord charts and exercises, tell them 10 minutes a day would get them playing pretty quickly, even let them borrow my old guitar and then left them alone. The ones who really wanted to learn spent time practicing. The ones who didn't really want it continued asking me to teach them. They never tried to do it on their own. Thus my theory: You have to really want it to make it happen and if you do, you will.

                                          You (Heinz 57) obviously want it, work hard for it and so people are helping you out. Hard work is usually rewarded.

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