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  • #81
    I didn't watch it all the way through. I was wanting to scream at the kid "HIMMELHERGOTTSAKRAMENTNOCHAMAL USE THE D*MN STICK AND BEAT HIS BUTT!!!!!!!"

    But then again, when the girl went after Hoover, it offered some bucking, no wonder she didn't use the stick.

    (wonder if the girl finds it funny to be on youtube like that...)


    Oh, and Anti grassing reins all the way! heck, if you think you can jump in a standing martingal, you sure as heck can jump in anti grassers!

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    • #82
      As a riding-camp counselor and instructor for many years - when the dreaded "trail-ride" week arives we pull the following arsenal out of our pockets/hay bales....
      -Bailing twine (green/yellow kind w/o wavy covering..breaks easier but also wont's slide and undo itself) from bit to brow band to saddle D's.
      -Bailing twine CROSS the neck for the bratty ponies that figure it out
      Although jumping was never part of our lessons...i would worry about it. If the rider isn't able to control the pony's head yet...should he/she be jumping? Call me old fashioned or overly-cautious, but me thinks not. And - safety-wise, standing martingales are not to be jumped in. But tell that to all the hunter riders that have been doing it forever..and at decently large fence heights...

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
        Ponies like this are the way to go, and kids picking grass out of their teeth get iron put in their spines.
        I think nowadays the surgeons use steel alloy.
        I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show

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        • #84
          Loved this clip...

          Looks to me like the pony is having a grand ol' time! Like a real life Thelwell pony. I can remember as a child I rode something quite similar. Although he would never actually make it over the jump. He just liked to go through them. But I would get back on and do it again, and again, and again. I was quite the masochist at ten years old. And I had a drill sargent for an instructor. How I miss Aunt Sissy as we called her. Of course that was back in a time where parents didn't sue whenever their precious child took a tumble. I believe I'm a better person because of it.
          Sailing the high seas but secretly wishing to be on the back of a horse.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by pony89 View Post
            Such a naughty pony! I want it!
            l-o-v-e this pony - just want to give her a little spanking What a brave and tenacious little rider!

            Are there up date videos? If it was shot in July why is everyone bundled up?
            "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

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            • #86
              Originally posted by WendellsGirl View Post
              Nope, you're not the only one. That pony is very practiced at that move, theres no way she just learned that evasive move there that day. Why is rider carrying a crop if she's not going to use it? Pony /could/ be lovely, but it made me sad to think of poor kid planning out her outfit and spiffing up her pony for the big day and then having such a poor outing. Poor girl, she deserves a more trustworthy pony to learn on or someone to show her how to get after that rude little turd.
              Agree completely. The video made me sad. The kid was overfaced, the pony was poorly trained/managed, and the trainer was useless. It's like watching those horrid youtube videos of foals behaving aggressively and talking about how "cute" it is. Bad behavior is bad behavior!

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              • #87
                I don't like laughing at these kinds of videos-gravity works the same for all of us-Mother Earth will catch us all the same. I did snigger behind my hand-couldn't help it.

                I hope the poor kid still wants to learn to ride.

                I hope the Hoover got a cometojesus ride from the resident pony jock.

                Thanks for the post. I'm going to allow for a little extra lounging time for Mr. OTTB today, just in case I enjoyed the video too much!

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Woodland View Post
                  l-o-v-e this pony - just want to give her a little spanking What a brave and tenacious little rider!

                  Are there up date videos? If it was shot in July why is everyone bundled up?
                  I think it was shot in England--it can be pretty cold and rainy there in July.

                  Kim
                  I loff my Quarter horse clique

                  I kill threads dead!

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Ambrey View Post
                    Oh my gosh people- THE CLICKER TRAINING THING WAS A JOKE!
                    No kidding!It was FUNNY. It was a joke!

                    BTR - thank you for posting this link! I laughed until my sides split! I forwarded the link to my horsie contacts. Oh my gosh how funny!!

                    That little fat fart is teaching that kid a lot of lessons

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                      It had to happen: blame the kid, blame the pony, blame the instructor, blame, blame, blame. So many kids learn to ride in arenas with l00% instruction they never get to ride by their derring-do. A lot of us would probably never tell our parents ALL that went on when we rode as kids. When I see a gutsy kid, I see a future for her. The video was only supposed to be cute - not an example of how not to teach, etc. Sure, we could all offer criticisms - what the heck.
                      Oh but leave it to the COTH experts to pick out all the faults. It drives me nuts. This didn't compare at all to me riding as a kid. Yes I could have gotten hurt or killed by my pony, but hey I was lucky. My mom and dad were good drivers and they didn't smoke. So I probably won't die of lung cancer! I just hope those that point fingers have a squeaky clean record. It was the cutest video and not once did the kid appear traumatized. She probably thought it was funny.
                      Maria Hayes-Frosty Oak Stables
                      Home to All Eyez On Me, 1998 16.2 Cleveland Bay Sporthorse Stallion
                      & FrostyOak Hampton 2008 Pure Cleveland Bay Colt
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                      • #91
                        Originally posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' View Post
                        I think nowadays the surgeons use steel alloy.

                        Good heavens, the pony barely broke from a walk, did not run off, really rather gently slid the child off. It's not like she was galloping full tilt up to a 3' foot solid stone wall and the pony threw her to the ground.

                        You learn to ride by learning how to solve a problem, you don't correct or eliminate the problem for the rider. How the heck would anyone ever learn how to ride? Riding around on a dead broke pony will only teach one to look pretty not to really ride.

                        That kid was nowhere close to getting hurt on that pony.

                        Attitudes like that are why we have so many whiney spoiled, dependent brats running around that have no work ethic what so ever. Who think they are entitled to the world on a silver platter.

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                        • #92
                          Originally posted by tikihorse2 View Post
                          I think it was shot in England--it can be pretty cold and rainy there in July.

                          Kim
                          yeah it does look our countryside type of eventy things

                          was funny but you gotta love the kid for not giving up and getting striaght back on agian on to fall of minutes later i swear the instructor was laughing to at one point
                          but these naughty ponies that arnt clockwork are the one that teach you to ride and use that sticky back glue as in your bum
                          haha now this could be a new meaning of working with an independant seat her went right out the window --------- verrrrrrrrrrrrrrum pooooooof hello floor how are we today
                          and besides hes a nice put together bay roan pony i like roans haha
                          not as in meaning he just put his head down took the reins and off she went sometimes she managed to keep his head up and control of him but then agian sometimes she didnt and he never


                          droped in a jump at least he was kind to do it after ajump or before the jump and he stood afterwards so hes an old trickster of a pony
                          haha
                          gotta love that guy - i would have him in a shot i like things that have a mind of there own
                          gotta give the girl a lot of kudos for keeping at it and she didnt cry so good for her

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                          • #93
                            Of course the kid is going to be in this pony's mouth more than would be "perfect" because the instant she isn't in its mouth the pony's head is gone -- on the ground. Better to be in its mouth than on the ground herself. The pony is naughty enough to deserve what it gets in this regard.

                            The kid is learning and does get it right sometimes. Her seat looks fine for these tiny jumps. I didn't see anything that made me fear the kid was going to break its neck once, not to mention 10 times.

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                            • #94
                              Originally posted by pupakin View Post
                              I am worse I couldn't stop laughing after the first dump. Poor pony is just starving. He really wasn't being that bad just naughty and maybe he thought the kid needed some practice going down the slide face first.
                              Haha! This is amazing. I feel bad laughing though...
                              And serious kudos to the kid. I would have like ditched the pony I was so angry
                              proud owner of a crazy dutch warmblood

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                              • #95
                                Originally posted by shade View Post
                                You learn to ride by learning how to solve a problem, you don't correct or eliminate the problem for the rider.


                                Attitudes like that are why we have so many whiney spoiled, dependent brats running around that have no work ethic what so ever.
                                So, show me where she learned something and solved the problem. All I saw was the same series of mistakes leading to consequences.

                                She never had a chance on those stops after the jump. Unless she sat in the backseat over the jumps, she was going to come off!! Half seat-jump-land-pony's neck disappears-fall off.

                                I'm not dependant, spoiled or whiney. I learned to ride on a series of school horses with many a quirk, rough gaited, sensitive, tough mouthed, etc.. I NEVER once as a child had such an experience like that. I've been dumped because I screwed up, I've had horses stop, run out, etc. But TEN TIMES in one session? Come on, the only one who learned by doing was the pony.

                                When I have a kid in trouble on a pony, I get the pony schooled after the lesson immediately by a better rider. During the lesson if the problem is serious enough. That's how the PONY learns that he can't get away with it.

                                Yes, COTH found the problems. Any other board is quite capable of the same. If you don't want your photos or videos critqued, then DONT POST THEM ON THE INTERNET. uh, duh!

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                                • #96
                                  My daughter, at eight, had that same pony except it was grey. It came with the trick and until she mastered it, it pulled it on her repeatedly. Then it never tried it again --- no doubt until it went on to its next kid. They never forget a single trick, just put it into storage.

                                  I think we can get pretty anal about some things on this board. Time to lighten up and go for a wonderful ride to drive away the winter blues and negativity that has been showing up quite frequently lately.
                                  Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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