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  • #61
    I laughed the whole way through. What a stinking little naughty pony!! What a determined kid - good for her.

    I'm not convinced the pony was going for grass though, wasn't it just being naughty?

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    • #62
      OK, first of all I heart that pony; SOOOO cute.

      But I can't be the only one who wanted to scream at the kid "GET OUT of his MOUTH and now STICK STICK STICK KICK KICK KICK!!!!! AAAAAARRRRGHHHHHHHHHH"

      And the above is why I don't teach anymore .
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      • #63
        I laughed and laughed and laughed at this, and then my non-horsey officemates gathered around and laughed too. I would take that pony in a second, and the determined little girl looks like she'll turn out to be a great event rider someday!
        "A canter is a cure for every evil." -Benjamin Disraeli

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        • #64
          Does anyone have the direct YouTube link to that video? Would love to share it!
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          • #65
            I guess I'm the only one who didn't find it funny at all.

            Thumbs up to the kid for haveing the guts to remount, but after the 3rd time, somebody should have DONE SOMETHING. Pony needed a come to Jesus moment.

            Does NOBODY see how close to breaking her neck she came, what was it, like 10 times?

            I read the comments on YouTube and the proclaimed that it was her first time, and how the pony isn't normally like that.... BULL. This didn't just suddenly occur to the pony, he's had time to think about it. (and btw, if you post it on youtube, it is fodder for comment, don't like it, don't post it.)

            NOTHING funny about a kid drowing in the deep end....

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            • #66
              Originally posted by matryoshka View Post
              Grazing reins would be so helpful! Even twine would work.
              Anti-grazing reins (grass reins) are not meant to be jumped in so they wouldn't help in this case.

              In that pony's defense, I would do everything I could to dislodge a rider that had no seat or hands too. IMO, that kid should be working on developing a good seat before she even gets to go over a ground pole. While I did chuckle here and there, there was potential for that child to get very hurt.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Pat View Post
                I read the comments on YouTube and the proclaimed that it was her first time, and how the pony isn't normally like that.... BULL. This didn't just suddenly occur to the pony, he's had time to think about it. (and btw, if you post it on youtube, it is fodder for comment, don't like it, don't post it.)

                NOTHING funny about a kid drowing in the deep end....
                Very bad instruction, certainly. The child hasn't been taught a proper seat and shouldn't be jumping yet.

                It is a cute pony. Spoiled, but cute. I agree it's not his first rodeo.
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                • #68
                  I guess someone peed in my Lucky Charms this morning, because I saw a kid that was about to get hurt at any given moment. The pony needed grazing reins after the first episode, even if the trainer made them out of twine. Over fences, the kid was in the pony's mouth the whole time. This is a pair that needed to go back to the ring for a few lessons before "going cross country". I know the parent posted on the video that they went clean at their first event, but that still doesn't mean the kid was doing it correctly. As a trainer, I would have been horrified had this lesson been posted on the internet for all to see. However, I would have fixed the problem instead of letting the child fall off so many times. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Horses are dangerous enough without thinking it is "fun" to watch a kid face-plant every few minutes. Shame on the trainer. Shame on the parents. Kudos to the kid for sticking with it.
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                  • #69
                    That was the funniest thing I seen in a while. What a tough kid to keep getting back on, too!

                    As an instructor, I would have at least tried putting on a grazing muzzle on over the pony's bridle or something though - preferably have a more experienced student get on and school the pony for a while so that it had to work w/o getting away with that a few times... amazing kid to keep trying after all of that. Definitely irresponsible instruction/dangerous to keep letting that happen over and over, but that aside, the video was pretty funny. Glad the kid was ok.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by theoldgreymare View Post
                      Anti-grazing reins (grass reins) are not meant to be jumped in so they wouldn't help in this case.
                      Ordinarily I'd agree with this statement. However, over such tiny jumps and with such a short necked pony, you could do it.

                      I had a school pony that needed a rig to keep her from randomly turning right. Right Turn Yum-Yum; it was her only bad habit. The smaller kids couldn't prevent it, and nobody ever saw it coming. She'd even turn INTO the wall in the indoor. If you ran a string from the bit, over her neck to the opposite saddle dee, she couldn't do the right turn. It was reletivly loose and could jump small jumps up to about 2 foot with it on.

                      THe pony needs some schooling, but the kid needs more skills before tackling a course like that on that pony. Maybe she'd be OK on a pony with less attitude and an actual neck. And shorten her stirrups for heavens sake. I know the English "have thier own way" but how is she supposed to get off the pony's back with her stirrups that long?

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                      • #71
                        I'm going to the special hell - I got a giggle out of it.

                        Still, I think the instructor was quite a bit at fault for letting it go on as long as it did.
                        Originally posted by ExJumper
                        Sometimes I'm thrown off, sometimes I'm bucked off, sometimes I simply fall off, and sometimes I go down with the ship. All of these are valid ways to part company with your horse.

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                        • #72
                          When I was looking at You-tube last week for examples of possible negligence for my blog, I saw this one. I did not pick it because it was hardly thought provoking.

                          I mean, how can it be anything but? And all the laughing made me feel guilty

                          I found a GM one instead

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                          • #73
                            btr, kim: girls girls girls.

                            keep it clean.

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                            • #74
                              OoO what a naughty little pony!! It is too funny though, poor kid!! Kudos to not giving up though!

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                              • #75
                                It had to happen: blame the kid, blame the pony, blame the instructor, blame, blame, blame. So many kids learn to ride in arenas with l00% instruction they never get to ride by their derring-do. A lot of us would probably never tell our parents ALL that went on when we rode as kids. When I see a gutsy kid, I see a future for her. The video was only supposed to be cute - not an example of how not to teach, etc. Sure, we could all offer criticisms - what the heck.

                                But don't you love the little pink 'eventing' outfit??? The parents must have been there in the group watching. I loved the days when my kids were out doing it and taking their lumps and bumps. Riding is dangerous, but more so off big rank horses. Ponies like this are the way to go, and kids picking grass out of their teeth get iron put in their spines.
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                                • #76
                                  I have to say I found it out right hilarious!! I would take the pony and/or the little rider home in a heartbeat!! It wasn't posted as a "what not to do" video. The little girl was being supervised & the pony was definately NOT dangerous!! He barely left the ground when going over those tiny(beginner appropriate sized) fences. He dumped her(very politely) & ate some grass. It's not like he took off bucking & kicking. He didn't move after she came off, didn't put her in any danger of being trampled, ect. Hell I wish my pony would of stopped every time he got me off, instead of hightailing it back to the barn. I learned more from my satan-spawned pony than alot of the "easier" horses in my life. Just as this girl will.
                                  People need to ease up & take things at face value, before you give yourself a coronary

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                                  • #77
                                    Originally posted by SlobberHound View Post
                                    I laughed so hard I cried. Horrible, I know
                                    Yeah, me too. But hey, I'm allowed! That's exactly how I learned. Love the pony, love the kid. And if they're very lucky, they will stick with each other, work it out and have a long happy life together - eventually teaching other kids to have a great seat and an even better attitude!

                                    If I were short enough, I would ride nothing but ponies! Horses are too darn forgiving - they make us so soft!

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                                    • #78
                                      That is one determined kid, good for her for getting back on... again and again. Although I think I have that pony's chestnut twin, she tried a similar trick last year. I swear a horse wouldn't think of such things...
                                      Wash: "Hey, I've been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire... Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity." -Firefly

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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by Pat View Post
                                        I guess I'm the only one who didn't find it funny at all.

                                        Thumbs up to the kid for haveing the guts to remount, but after the 3rd time, somebody should have DONE SOMETHING. Pony needed a come to Jesus moment.

                                        Does NOBODY see how close to breaking her neck she came, what was it, like 10 times?

                                        I read the comments on YouTube and the proclaimed that it was her first time, and how the pony isn't normally like that.... BULL. This didn't just suddenly occur to the pony, he's had time to think about it. (and btw, if you post it on youtube, it is fodder for comment, don't like it, don't post it.)

                                        NOTHING funny about a kid drowing in the deep end....
                                        Nope, you're not the only one. That pony is very practiced at that move, theres no way she just learned that evasive move there that day. Why is rider carrying a crop if she's not going to use it? Pony /could/ be lovely, but it made me sad to think of poor kid planning out her outfit and spiffing up her pony for the big day and then having such a poor outing. Poor girl, she deserves a more trustworthy pony to learn on or someone to show her how to get after that rude little turd.

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                                        • #80
                                          Originally posted by TheJenners View Post
                                          OK, first of all I heart that pony; SOOOO cute.

                                          But I can't be the only one who wanted to scream at the kid "GET OUT of his MOUTH and now STICK STICK STICK KICK KICK KICK!!!!! AAAAAARRRRGHHHHHHHHHH"

                                          And the above is why I don't teach anymore .
                                          I giggled and thought it was cute - but I also saw a pony sticking up for itself.

                                          Jenners - thank you. I thought it was just me. I felt bad for both the child and the pony. All I kept thinking was WHY is that pony giving her a hard time... so I replayed it ... Sure enough.. the child is snatching, snatching, snatching at the pony's mouth and head everytime!! You can't kick a horse forward and yank on its face when it goes forward, at the same time.

                                          Yes, the child will be stronger for it, so long as she doesn't get seriously hurt. But the instructor should NOT be allowing children to go beyond their capabilities. Good seat, good hands, good balance, when to use the crop, before going to the next level. sigh...

                                          Very well trained schooling pony. Didn't run off.

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