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  • #61
    Originally posted by Woodland View Post
    CPO was scraped and then resurrected as a Performance Permit - I posted the link to it above.

    It sucked to have a solid even app x app solid and have no ability to show or breed it! It was like the dinosaur days all over again!

    LOL on GM - Sally Swift HATED my AQHA mare back in the 80's partially because she had a white scalera and Miss Swift was certain she was "untrustworthy" That horse was as rock solid a horse as I have ever owned! She always referred to her as "that short strided spook of a cow pony". The mare was AQHA, she was only 15.2 had never seen a cow and well I suppose she was short strided compared to the 17hh WB's on her place. She never spooked ever though -

    My first three Appies, two Foundation and one race bred, were unshakeable. NOTHING spooked them. I got the one in my profile pic - the racebred one - when he was 4.5 and I swear, he was BORN broke. My present baby IS spooky - or at least, "reactive." But he's an Araloosa. I guess I can blame it on either (a) he's still very green and Walnut Creek, CA is a LOT "busier" and full of "spooky" things than the Bakersfield farm on which he was born, and (b) his Arabian sire, eh? ROFLOL Baby also has a full blaze, so he'd probably have white sclera even if he were NOT an Araloosa.

    Here's baby. in the event you haven't seen him in some other threads where I posted pics:





    Those were taken last June, and he's fill out a bit more since then.

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    • #62
      I'm very proud of my beautiful and capable appys. But as I am a dressage rider I'm apparently irrelevant to the ApHC.

      I can't pick up the journal any longer. Even my not-very-horsey husband looks through it and goes "what's wrong with these horses?"

      This makes me very sad.

      Thanks for posting this. I've been and said my piece.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Sandy M View Post
        Shawnee - The CPO program has certainly been around longer than since 2005, hasn't it? When I purchased the horse in my profile pic - a foal of 1986 - he was almost five, and at the time I arrived to look at him for the first time, the breeder was late in meeting me because he'd taken a foal by his stallion out of a "barely roan" mare to an inspection to be CPO'd. So we're talking 1991 or thereabouts. And certainly, the Journal has been full of successful mostly QH "Appies" showing successfully for a lot more than three years (aaargh!) . Now the transition to passports and the like, that I'm not up on - or perhaps I'm misreading and it is the passports business you're talking about beginning in 2005? I showed in the late 80s against solids, I know.
        Yes CPO was around for many years (do not know exact year it began) what I was saying is CPO was scrapped about that time, and for a year or two a solid foal COULD be registered NC but could NOT be shown at all in ApHC shows. Then they turned it into the permit program. I have a mare that was CPO'd in 2003, then I had a foal born that was out of a TB by an app stallion (not mine) in 2004. He was not ale to be CPO'd on 2005 so we sold him as he could not do ApHC shows and at that time we were doign them, he WAS however, registered with ApHC as an NC. Then they decided in 2006 or 2007 to do the permit program which is still in effect.
        www.shawneeacres.net

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          #64
          Regarding the removal of specialty judges for the suitability for dressage classes. I was told by a club officer when this happened that the ApHC show folks were frustrated when certain horses placed well under the ApHC "cowboy" judges in the shows all year, then did not do well or even place under dressage qualified judges like Hilda Gurney. Rather than doing the right thing and fixing the regular shows/judges, the club took the path of least resistence and got rid of the specialty dressage judges. Then they eventually transitioned the class altogether, it was such a problem.

          Regarding the poor hands- oh those pics in the journals and ads are just *aweful* displays of equitation- with the human side reins (arms locked down and straight to try to keep the horse's head down) and the open fingers (especially on the babies), they just make me cringe. Now my equitation is far from perfect but I don't intentionally try to do any of these things!!!

          It looks like the blogspot restored at least a few comments. Is anyone's still missing?
          Appy Trails,
          Kathy, Cadet & CCS Silinde
          member VADANoVA www.vadanova.org

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          • #65
            Nope. I'm back on the blog. Thanks for the heads up.
            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

            http://s1098.photobucket.com/albums/...2011%20Photos/

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            • #66
              Until they close the books the ApHC is just another registry and as time goes by it may not even qualify as a color registry! The color patterns are getting seriously diluted in the "breed" as defined by the top show and breeding stock. It seems you have largely 2 groups, people breeding for color ONLY (ConFIRmation, what's that? besides spelled wrong?) and people breeding for the ring which means breeding for LESS color (can't confuse those AQHA judges). Although as the halter ring gets more extreme I'm not sure there will be many apps in either group with decent conformation! And don't even get me started on HYPP... I grew up with Apps (back when color was still good but being phased out) but I'd never get one now. I'd get a knabstrup or knab/TB/WB cross. WITH color.

              Close the books to outcrossing and then you can register ALL apps, solid or not. However they may eventually have to do some emergency addition of knabstrup blood to get leopards back in!
              Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

              Proud Closet Canterer! Member Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sandy M View Post
                My first three Appies, two Foundation and one race bred, were unshakeable. NOTHING spooked them. I got the one in my profile pic - the racebred one - when he was 4.5 and I swear, he was BORN broke. My present baby IS spooky - or at least, "reactive." But he's an Araloosa. I guess I can blame it on either (a) he's still very green and Walnut Creek, CA is a LOT "busier" and full of "spooky" things than the Bakersfield farm on which he was born, and (b) his Arabian sire, eh? ROFLOL Baby also has a full blaze, so he'd probably have white sclera even if he were NOT an Araloosa.

                Here's baby. in the event you haven't seen him in some other threads where I posted pics:





                Those were taken last June, and he's fill out a bit more since then.
                What a cutie pie!!!!
                "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

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                • #68
                  Woodland - And for just a sidebar as to the wonders of Appaloosa coloring, his FULL BROTHER is a chestnut leopard! LOL Mom's a few spot and a daughter of Chocklate Confetti.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Chief2 View Post
                    Be my guest, but don't expect them to listen to you. It's like spitting into the wind.

                    ShawneeAcres, love that horse! Beautiful boy! Love your signature statement as well!

                    agreed, except spitting in to the wind may be more productive than talking to AQHA.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Sandy M View Post
                      Woodland - And for just a sidebar as to the wonders of Appaloosa coloring, his FULL BROTHER is a chestnut leopard! LOL Mom's a few spot and a daughter of Chocklate Confetti.
                      The LOUDEST horse I owned was by Zippo's Sunny an AQHA out of a minimal characteristic mare. He was so loud he'd keep you up at night - God I miss him! He passed away two years this coming April My foundation guy - who's papers I can not find so i can not tell you how he is bred - is loud as well! When I ride him down the road people stop and stare - he is eye candy!

                      One day I'll figure out how to post pictures -
                      "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

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                      • #71
                        True story: I used to show at the breed show at the Cow Palace, because they usually used the regular hunter/jumper division course designer and often the regular H/J judge would get a temporary ApHC card (at least that's what I figured, since they used the regular judge and the points counted), or they had GOOD judges, like Shrake or Don Burt. Anyhoo, I showed one year and qualified to show in the "evening" performance for HUS (got two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd in over fence classes and hunter hack earlier in the day).

                        Well, I hadn't arranged for a stall - one day in-and-out show, but the day part of the show was over by 3PM and the evening one wasn't until 8PM. Then I happened to run into a director of the Cow Palace who was a friend of my employer. He was there not only because he was a Director but also because he had an Appy. With his help, I was able to get a stall for my guy to rest in until the evening performance (he got 7th out of 24 horses. I was letting a friend show him on the flat and she counter-flexed him at just the wrong moment and got one step of wrong lead before doing a flying change to the correct lead - but Don Burt saw it. Sigh.)

                        Okay, after this elaborate lead in: I went to thank the gentleman who got me the stall and he told me that he had been trail riding his horse the week before down in the SF Peninsula area, and a car drove slooooowly by as he rode. Then it stopped, backed up and stopped right beside him. Guy rolled down the window and asked, "Is that an Appaloosa?" The gentleman proudly stated, "Yes, it is." Guy snorted and said "Yeah, I thought so. Ugliest horse I've ever seen" and drove off. Now this horse was a classic black & white blanketed App, Red Eagle line (so definitely good looking). Fortunately, the guy with the App thought it was funny. I guess the plain bay people just don't "get it." ROFLOL

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