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  • Well, I was going to stay out of this, but the attacks on Teresa Heinz Kerry really make me sick. Be a Democrat, be a Republican, support Kerry or Bush for president, but don't go around on a public forum an bash someone's wife, especially one like Teresa Heinz Kerry.

    She has done some really amazing work in her life, and is a true progrssive. Judging her on one remark that was broadcast all over the news is like me thinking that you are the Devil incarnate because you don't like Teresa.

    Grow up, and debate the issues. Frankly, Mods, please close this topic.
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    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyberbay:
      Um, poltroon, lots of evidence--ALL SUPPRESSED--that indicated McVeigh was not the bad guy all of you fearful people are SO in need of vilifying the moment life reminds us that we are not guaranteed safety or security. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      Well, then, by all means get the evidence out there so we can have a trial for the true guilty party. And apologize to McVeigh's ashes.
      If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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      • I voted for Bush.
        As for the economy stupid...anybody notice the market was up over 100 after Kerry conceded?
        I hope Bush finishes what he started. Then he can had the reins over to McCain in'08.

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        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Calvincrowe:
          Sad day. Half of this country has decided that 4 more years of lying to the American people (the ones who can apparently recognize a lie), putting on a "Holier than thou" false Christianity attitude, and forcing one's personal beliefs on citizens is the way to go. Republicans were the party of fear this year. Frightend people make impulsive, silly decisions, with little thought to the "big picture". Until the center takes over again, this country is headed, IMHO, toward a Christian Conservative Theocracy. I'm a proud Catholic, and stand with Kerry. And, yes, he is one classy man. Bush could take lessons and so could his CLASSLESS VP. I need to go take a walk and clear my head.

          Hug your horse. It will make you feel better. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

          Maybe you should take some lessons too!!

          Oh right, just as classless than when Kerry had to to bring up Cheney's gay daughter during the debates! And you have the nerve to talk about classless? Give me a freaken break!
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          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ruby G. Weber:
            I voted for Bush.
            As for the economy stupid...anybody notice the market was up over 100 after Kerry conceded?
            I hope Bush finishes what he started. Then he can had the reins over to McCain in'08. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

            Unfortunately THAT economy that does nothing but make the rich richer. Using the stock market to judge the health of the economy for working people isn't much of an indicator. The companies that are up are gas/oil companies and pharmacutical companies.

            The real judge for the economy for working people is the debt, jobs, the strength of the dollar and inflation/interest rates. All of which it pitiful and/or set to get very bad.
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            • I know that this is kind of off topic, but this is in response to people that turned this election into a drive for moral "harmony."

              I'm pro-life and believe in civil unions instead of same-sex marriage, but I think it would be irresponsible to vote completely on these morals instead of regarding the situation in Iraq, our educational system, healthcare, etc. This is why we must take note of a hierarchy of what is best for our country.

              My views on our country's safety, educational, and healthcare issues outweigh my belief against abortion. I think that people need to realize that Kerry wasn't for abortion; he left women with a choice between themselves and God without the government telling them, "NO! You can't do that!"

              Um, yeah. That's it! I guess I was just kind of tired of hearing friends complain only about each president's moral values. There are other issues, too!

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              • Apparently this bears repeating:

                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Killian:
                What could we do here instead of insulting & name calling? Is there a better use of these emotions & energy? Clearly, no one is convincing the other of their view.

                We've got to get on with the business of living together in this country, & after the initial upset or euphoria dies down, what constructive, useful things can we draw from this braintrust? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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                • I'd like to see Ms. Rice as our first female President elect in the future, NOT Ms. Clinton!!!!

                  For the nearer future, say 2008, I'd like to see Gulliani or Powell.

                  For now, let's see if we can make some positive things happen in the next 4 years instead of bemoaning what didn't happen.

                  Politics is dirty by it's very nature. In order to be elected, one must have money, one way or another. If it comes from anything other than personal resources, there is going to be special interests, no matter the party. No politician is clean from influences that might not be for the majority's good.
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                  • [QUOTE]Originally posted by Simkie:
                    UNCEventer, this was posted on another message board. I just don't have this much faith.

                    <span class="ev_code_GREEN">Wake up and count the numbers,there was a huge increase in support for the president this election, though Jennings reported that election was over prematurely in 2000 so no wonder we had a numbers problem since the FL Panhandle didn't bother to vote. Hey, the dead rose to vote for Gore in Philadelphia where more votes came in for him that were registered voters. I understand that Mary Poppins supported Kerry this election. You have to be careful who you get to register and how you pay them, that white stuff sticks to your fingers.</span>



                    IS THIS A THREAT?

                    the differences between one faction and the other. My friends, we are in the second American Civil War, only the shooting hasn't yet begun.

                    Over four years that grass-roots sentiment has grown stronger and gained support, and though it has not been able to bring a clear victory over Bush and the far-right, we cannot, we must not give up.

                    I BEG TO DIFFER, THERE WAS A RECORD NUMBER OF POPULAR VOTES FOR THE PRESIDENT THIS ELECTION PROVING HE IS THE MAN OF THE PEOPLE


                    SO MANY RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES BLED AND DIED FOR YOUR RIGHTS

                    so many patriots have bled and died for on the field of battle, on the streets of the segregated South, WHICH THE REPUBLICANS NOT THE DEMOCRATS CHANGED, ASK BYRD

                    I ask every fellow citizen of the world to understand that there are still those of us in this nation who will fight against the America that Bush represents.

                    THIS WILL SURELY UNIFY THE COUNTRY AFTER THE POPULAR VOTE AND ELECTORAL VOTE WAS FOR PRESIDENT BUSH, a suggestion for you...move to France!

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                    • Up 100 from a very low point. It's not up because Bush was elected, it's up because the markets are glad that there wasn't a protracted battle over Ohio. The market is down 4,000 points since Bush took office.

                      As for McCain, I wouldn't count on it. He is old, his wife had a stroke, and his relationship with Bush is tenuous at best.

                      Goobs, did you think your comment was funny? I sure didn't. I thought that if that's what you think Teresa Heines is like then you all would get along very well -- birds of a feather sort of thing.

                      The South hasn't supported a Democratic presidential candidate since 1968. You know why? It's because the Democrats were the party of the civil rights movement and for that reason a Democrat has never carried the south since LBJ. How moral is that?

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                      • One remark and a truly great one that really shows her true colors. How about the other comment of "shut up" or was it something much more rude?

                        Sorry - she would have been a nightmare waiting to happen in the White House and a major influence on Kerry.

                        So you don't think Teresa in all her sweetness is the devil incarnate after what she said about the Cheney's and their gay daughter? She should have been ASHAMED of herself. A low low blow is what she dealt and her duplicity angered me. I don't think I've ever been called the devil incarnate because I don't like someone. Would you think the same if I said I don't like Osama Bin Laden?

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                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ruby G. Weber:
                          I voted for Bush.
                          As for the economy stupid...anybody notice the market was up over 100 after Kerry conceded?
                          I hope Bush finishes what he started. Then he can had the reins over to McCain in'08. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          Gee, maybe in another 50 years it'll reach the point it was at before Bush was installed the first time.

                          Twice in recent years I've had republicans try to convince me to invest when the market was at about 10,500 because, and I quote the finance teacher, "It'll never be this low again!!!!!" Heh!heh! The other one gave herself away as desperate by screaming at me that "Everybody has to invest in the market! I'm not gonna support YOU when YOU get old!"

                          I am SO glad I'm a bit precognitive. It occassionally bumps up to that old level, but has yet to pass it. I wouldn't have my farm today if I'd listened to either of them! But I DO wish I could remember the screamer's name. I'd love to give her a call and ask how her portfolio is doing...

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                          • Yes it was hilarious!!!! THK opened her mouth and out spewed venom. She disgusted me and if I were a Democrat I would have been horrified. I make no excuses for what comes out of that mouth of hers.

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                            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by laurencsi03:I am horrified that in modern times one person can gain the power to decide for millions of Americans what they can and cannot do with their own bodies and lives. And I am further disgusted that people think that just because he won 51% of the vote, that is fair and okay. It's not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              Ok, so let me get this straight. Bush won 51% of the popular vote (which of course the Democrats advocated as the end-all and be-all 4 years ago) and that is "disgusting" and "not fair" because you don't like the outcome and disagree with his policies? And, you believe the President decides and controls everything? If so, that should save the country a lot of money on Congressional and judicial salaries . Sorry to be tongue-in-cheek, but your logic is a tough sell. You don't have to like Bush, you don't have to agree with him, but you should at least recognize and respect that others have the right to, and have reasons to, disagree with your view of the world, and that is a positive part of the democratic process.

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                              • Just have to post an opposing opinion here. I can't stand Bush and I am extremely disappointed he will be our president another four years. 'Nuff said...
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                                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  Originally posted by Magnolia:

                                  quote:
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                                  So because some individuals, or an isolated group of a country did a terrible act the rest of the citizens of that country have to be punished as well?

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                                  Yes - "we stick a boot up your ass, it's the American Way"
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                                  I find that absolutely disgusting. You should be ashamed to have that outlook. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                  It was sarcastic (I don't think we should stick boots up people's butts! at all)- and that is a very popular song among Bush supportes (lyrics penned by Toby Keith).
                                  The witchy witch witch of south central NC.

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                                  • Duffy! Hear hear! Nicely said and on your post this thread should have been closed and locked tight!

                                    Good night everyone! We have another 4 years of Bush (and Laura) whether you like it or not so I guess we must all suck it up, the good the bad and (thankfully not the ugly).

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                                    • WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

                                      I can't wipe the grin off my face. THANK GOD! And all people with horses should be happy about this. With the tax increases Kerry was promising we were all looking at a horse market that would tank. These are luxury items folks - comes under discretionary spending and when people have less money to spend it kills our industry.

                                      I was proud to vote for Bush and even more proud to call him MY PRESIDENT. FOUR MORE YEARS.

                                      I'D PAY GOOD MONEY TO HAVE SEEN MICHAEL "ANIMAL FARM" MOORE'S FACE WHEN HE HEARD!!!!

                                      WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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                                      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>2. For those of you concerned about the Patriot Act I would encourge you to study the laws on the books concerning enforcement drug laws. I look forward to watching the political fall out in your advocation of lessening the ablities of law enforcement crack down on the drug trade. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        I am aware of them and I think they're terrifying. That your property can somehow be guilty of a crime and taken from you even if you're not guilty and were never aware of it is a true miscarriage of justice. That the people who decide take it get to pretty much keep it for themselves is a bit of a conflict of interest, JMHO.
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                                        • Well, I certainly hope you have a good one for what's transmitted from your keyboard...

                                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I make no excuses for what comes out of that mouth of hers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                          BTW. It was the Bush administration that approved/flew members of Bin Laden's family out of the U.S. during the no-fly days immediately following 9/11.

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