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  • #21
    Uh - who gave y'all the right to make people ashamed of themselves? How dare you. Animal cruelty? Jesus - take a look at what animal control has to deal with and then come back and say that this lady who has a horse with "hock issues" an animal abuser.

    There is no indication this animal is incapable of bearing weight. You are egging this poster on to commit an act that is cruel and irresponsible. You take too much upon yourselves. Mind your own friggin business and save the term "animal cruelty" for the real horrors inflicted on helpless animals.

    For all you know, this woman is giving her horse all sorts of treatments and medications and has made an informed decision as to whether or not to ride the horse. She owes no one an explanation, nor does she need to justify her actions. She apparantly heard her vet's advice, and chose not to take it.

    Leave her in peace. For God's sake - just leave her in peace.
    Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
    Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
    -Rudyard Kipling

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    • #22
      And about the weight thing - do ya think she might know she isn't a size 4? One more person telling her to skip a meal or cracking jokes is just great - why not kick her in the a** when she's down while we're at it?
      Ahem...there is a bit of difference between being a size 4 and weighting almost 300 lbs.
      And what makes you think that is anyone were to say anything they'd do it by cracking jokes?

      Why are you so angry?

      That said, I don't know that I would press the issue. If this person doesn't listen to her vet it's obvious she won't listen to anyone else.

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      • #23
        Because people here are making assumptions and moral and value judgments about a situation they know nothing about based on a short post by a stranger with very little information.

        Jetsmom - a super intelligent person, and a staunch opponent of horse slaughter, suggests this rider get a different horse (where the horse with hock issues goes - well - guess that's not important?) Or this comment - even made in jest to this "friend"- "When your saddle looks like you're wearing a leather thong, it's time to lose weight"

        Or another poster suggesting humbling this rider so that she will feel ashamed. I can't believe I read that. Society has undoubtedly already humbled and shamed her enough without any help from her "friends". It's no wonder people lock themselves in a room and put a gun to their head.

        I'm not angry - I'm horrified at the thought of people inserting themselves into a situation they really know nothing about, assuming an air of superiority and making suggestions and offering opinions when none were solicited. It's rude, in this case it's cruel, and from what BTR has posted, completely unwarranted.

        Perhaps this woman loves her horse dearly and is doing the best she can for it and would never part with it. She may not measure up to society's standards of beauty, nor George Morris's standards of equitation - but that is not for us to judge. - or maybe I should say - not for me to judge.
        Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
        Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
        -Rudyard Kipling

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        • #24
          Yeah I can see your point.
          However, the concern was for the horse. If indeed this horse has hock issues and if indeed the vet has told the woman not to ride the horse, it would stand to reason that if the woman has the best welfare of the horse at heart she would follow the vet's instructions.
          I guess I can see both sides of the coin.
          I still don't know that I would say anything short of "wow Pooky there seems a little off. What did the vet say about his condition? Is he cleared for riding?" if I were to run into her.

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          • #25
            Well there you go. I posted a very amusing retort. Then went back to read the rest of the thread - thereby reading JSwan's post. And deleted my post - it was inappropriate.
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            • #26
              That's the extent of what I might say, too. If nothing else - just to be nosy and find out what was going on with the horse.

              haha good one, Reynard Ridge!
              Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
              Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
              -Rudyard Kipling

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              • #27
                I have to agree with J Swan here about the rider probably already knows she is overweight. I can safely say I know no woman that can gain 15 lbs and NOT notice. I'm heavier now than I have been in some time, mostly because of schoolwork, fast food, no exercise...I have no one to blame but me. but I really don't need it pointed out to me that I'm heavier than I used to be. Believe me, the stairs remind me daily. So do certain clothing items. Heck, maybe riding is the beginning of her getting in better shape!

                I stand by my original statement that light statements such as, "so have you heard the testimonials to HA solutions for horses? Works miracles to help horses joints that are under stress!" to possibly help persuade this lady into looking into it for herself. Shoot, I'm thankful for all the suggestions that folks have given me over the years, and mostly from my experiences here of late. I was turned onto flaxseed and Keratex from COTH. I even started my poor footed guy on a hoof supplement again, just for a try. But I also think it's all in how you approach a person. And insisting she is a hippo and abusing her horse is probably going to do nothing more than hurt her feelings.
                RIP Bo, the real Appassionato
                5/5/84-7/12/08

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                  #28
                  sigh....what really buggs me too is the double standard she applies. She rips other people apart for such treament of their horses, yet seems totally oblivious about her own actions....very sad. Poor horse.

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                  • #29
                    Reynard Ridge - it was still funny. Humor is the best medicine.

                    My emotional diatribes were not targeted at anyone specifically. Fat people know they're fat. And they know people know it, and some of them are just waiting for the next person to sidle up to them and whisper the name "Jenny Craig". I'm not exusing gluttony - I'm expressing compassion and empathy.

                    BornToRide- it sounds like you are not this person's friend. Friends don't say things like that about each other. I don't have any idea what the hell your point is in this thread. Is it a thread complaining about your "friend"?
                    Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                    Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                    -Rudyard Kipling

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                      #30
                      I also feel compassion for heavy people, but so I do for the horse as well and he ain't given a choice in the matter.....

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by BornToRide:
                        sigh....what really buggs me too is the double standard she applies. She rips other people apart for such treament of their horses, yet seems totally oblivious about her own actions....very sad. Poor horse.

                        Wait a second...this lady tears other rips others apart? Hmm. One of two things is happening: either she's in denial about her own situation, or she eats others alive so she feels "less lonely" in this world. Either way, that's concerning. What I mean is, others may be right. You can't get through to this woman.
                        RIP Bo, the real Appassionato
                        5/5/84-7/12/08

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                        • #32
                          Oh wait - I get it. Never mind. I see the same pattern emerging again.

                          I'm gone from this thread.
                          Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                          Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                          -Rudyard Kipling

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                          • #33
                            Originally posted by J Swan:
                            Oh wait - I get it. Never mind. I see the same pattern emerging again.

                            I'm gone from this thread.
                            I'm lost.
                            RIP Bo, the real Appassionato
                            5/5/84-7/12/08

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                            • #34
                              Appassionato - sorry - nothing to do with you at all or others on this thread except for one individual. I'm going to take my own advice for a change and not say anything hurtful.

                              Time for bed anyway. See you on the new board.
                              Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                              Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                              -Rudyard Kipling

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                              • #35
                                jswan, honestly, I was not even trying to be an a hole, even though that is how that came out, I guess. I am sorry. I dont want this to turn into a fight, for crying out loud. but honestly, if the person does not have enough sense to say the right thing and is easily "egged on", then maybe the whole board should just be shut down, because unfortunately, people do share their opinions on here, and I am sure that many people have taken the advice of people on the board.

                                And you are right, maybe she just does love her horse and has no idea maybe she could be hurting him. But if the vet has said something, maybe it is an issue. And I am sorry, but if an animal is obviously debilitated, and I am only going by what was said on here, I do think it is kind of cruel to ride if you are huge. I dont know how many times I have seen ads for horses that are light riding sound only, "for a light rider"....obviously the weight of a heavy rider is not contributing to any unsound horses comfort.

                                Sorry you were offended.
                                "Lose your temper, lose your horse" -someone wise enough to know better than to pick a fight with a 1200 lb animal that could launch you to the moon.

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                                • #36
                                  Ok J Swan! See you on the new board!

                                  I thought I had fluffed up and stomped someone's toes...
                                  RIP Bo, the real Appassionato
                                  5/5/84-7/12/08

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                                  • #37
                                    I am assuming that one individual might be me....I appologized...and I am sure it was not the harshest thing ever said on the board.
                                    "Lose your temper, lose your horse" -someone wise enough to know better than to pick a fight with a 1200 lb animal that could launch you to the moon.

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                                      #38
                                      quote:
                                      Originally posted by J Swan:
                                      Oh wait - I get it. Never mind. I see the same pattern emerging again.

                                      I'm gone from this thread.

                                      I'm lost.
                                      Yeah, so am I oh and totally agree with Briggsie too. Please, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Differing opinion does not justify becoming personal.

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                                      • #39
                                        How about nobody apologizes?
                                        JSwan said her piece. For whatever reason she has issues with something someone said. Whoever this person may be, it's not that important.

                                        BTR, if this person rips others apart for doing the same things as she does she is delusional. Unfortunately no amount of talking will do any good. I understand your feelings for the horse, it would be hard for me not to say something in this situation also but unfortunately I don't think saying anything to her will do any good. What it might do is make you look as the bad guy which I would avoid at all costs. Look how our very own JSwan reacted!

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                                          #40
                                          Yes, I agree.

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