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  • #21
    Originally posted by SimplyRed View Post
    Haha don't I know that all too well? After Harley I swore I would never ever become that attached to a horse again... then here came Red. What can I do, he's a goofball and I love every thing about him, even his most annoying bad habits are what make him so lovable! If he does get sold I think I can handle it better than I did with Harley. Its entirely understandable of my trainer as well... I'm the person who rides him the most and next august I'll be going off to college and probably won't be around to ride him as much; although I'm trying to go to a college closer to my barn so I can continue training there. I love it at my barn. The best thing so far... she looked at four horses, was super picky and when she tested Red he didn't hit his leads. Which is extremely rare for him. He gets his strides nearly always and hits the correct lead. You have to mess him up bad to get the wrong lead, and when you do it is the worst canter ever and practically impossible to sit. Hopefully she'll think he's like that all the time... haha. I don't know what she did to make him get the wrong lead every time, as I was told he did. He's only gotten the wrong lead with me maybe 4-5 times the entire time I've ridden him, and after he did I go out of my way to not mess him up

    Whatever happens is going to happen and I'll just have to deal with it.
    you know you looking at it all the wrong way look at it differently say to slef i have learnt a lot on hartley and red, and what ever horse you get to ride is another learning curve
    the more horses you ride the better you become- dont be sad but be thankful that those horses have given you a good grounding along with your trianer

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    • #22
      Good for you for realizing you can't afford to own a horse right now. It sounds like you have your priorities straight.

      Very difficult to say goodbye to a horse - as an owner, or a rider. Just try to remember that you grow, and learn from each one. There will be another one around the corner as you have found out. I would suggest to stay "open" to loving another one. Why not - that is how we grow. Yes they will come and go - but you will survive it and be a better rider and person for it.

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      • #23
        You sound like an intelligent young lady to recognize the fact that you simply cannot afford a horse of your own right now. I know from personal experience that unless you're independently wealthy, owning a horse in college and footing all the bills yourself is a monstrous, nearly impossible task.

        I could not wait to own my own horse, and ended up burning through student loan after student loan to buy something, keep it in training, board it, pay for vet, insurance, farrier, the (very) occasional show, etc etc. This horse, and subsequent horses after I sold the first, were not pricey animals, but after all was said and done, I am now DEEP into debt and the horse craziness contributed to quite a bit of my six-figure nightmare. I enjoyed my horses, but looking back, trying to make the bills every month was a huge stressor at a time when I should have been focused on school.

        So, kudos to you. The time WILL come when it's right for you to have your own ride. At that point, you can just ride and enjoy riding, instead of going out to the barn and freaking out because he destroyed a piece of tack that you can't afford to replace, or being afraid to check the mailbox because of a new bill that may be lurking.

        Be carefree from bills as long as you can, and in the meantime keep riding what comes your way -- it's making you a better horsewoman. I understand the deep feelings you have about the horses "sold from under you" but that will make having your own an even sweeter experience someday.

        Good luck, and keep your head on straight!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by SimplyRed View Post
          trainer a, I totally understand how you felt like you had been taken advantage of. That's the exact same way it was with Harley. We were looking at showing him more seriously in the upcoming show season and the trainer has to let go of one horse and she picks him, the one she payed $1500 for and sold for about $6,000. I understand why it was better for her, but I too felt like she had taken advantage of me. That's why, after that I left that barn and am now riding with the trainer I ride with now who is a hundred times better.
          ok, I think it's a little harsh for you to say you feel taken advantage of by your trainer. You are riding their "sale horses" which means at ANY time they can be sold. That's the way it is & that's your trainer's business. You can't fault them for that. I am sorry you had hoped to show the horse & unfortunately it didn't work out, but that is life.

          And before you say I am mean, I too didn't have a horse as a junior. But to get as much time in the tack & opportunites as possible (which didn't always pan out) I rode at sales barns. There were tons to ride. Did I get the ride for long? Not always, but it was a horse to ride & learn on for the time being. Some were there during show season & available to show, some sold right before shows. Some horses I was sorry to see go & others I felt could have left a heck of a lot sooner. But you know what--riding all those different horses made me realize exactly what I wanted in my own horse. What I was willing to overlook & what I absolutely didn't want. And now as an adult I own 2 horses that make me happy & are what I enjoy riding. I still ride sale horses for my trainer & while I am sorry to see them go I am happy they now have their own "special" person to dote on them.
          "I'm not crazy...my mother had me tested"

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          • #25
            My old trainer's mom is about 60. She grew up in a very horsey family, her brother was a famous eventer, but she and I were talking one day about having horses leave, and how hard it was.
            She told me that she had never had a horse of her own, since her father's business was horses every horse she ever rode was a sale horse, or one of her brother's. She'd finally, in her 50's, been given a client's Fugly little yearling warmblood that miraculously grew into himself at age 5, and her daughter (my trainer) wouldn't let her ride it since she was "rusty" and "out of shape", not consistent enough to deliver a good training ride o/f. We had to laugh at the irony of it all.

            I know it is really really hard to get to know a horse and establish a rapport and then show up and wander the pastures looking for a horse that got taken away the day before, but such is the life of the horseless. Please count your blessings that you had the time. And I applaud your good sense regarding the financial commitment.
            Courageous Weenie Eventer Wannabe
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            • #26
              Originally posted by ReSomething View Post
              My old trainer's mom is about 60. She grew up in a very horsey family, her brother was a famous eventer, but she and I were talking one day about having horses leave, and how hard it was.
              She told me that she had never had a horse of her own, since her father's business was horses every horse she ever rode was a sale horse, or one of her brother's. She'd finally, in her 50's, been given a client's Fugly little yearling warmblood that miraculously grew into himself at age 5, and her daughter (my trainer) wouldn't let her ride it since she was "rusty" and "out of shape", not consistent enough to deliver a good training ride o/f. We had to laugh at the irony of it all.

              I know it is really really hard to get to know a horse and establish a rapport and then show up and wander the pastures looking for a horse that got taken away the day before, but such is the life of the horseless. Please count your blessings that you had the time. And I applaud your good sense regarding the financial commitment.

              God that is sad!
              "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

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              • #27
                I have ridden the sale horses and, while I've gotten attached to many of them, and have cried when they left, I always felt proud that I was the one who had brought them to the point where they could do something more than they could when I started. I always got a cut, though, so that probably helped temper my sadness :P. If you are a good enough rider to bring a horse along and improve its value, you are a good enough rider to be compensated for your trouble. You might not want to push it in this economy, but when things improve, keep that in mind when you're negotiating rides.

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                • #28
                  We can't "fix" this one - I know, I've been there.

                  Big hugs. But, as gls said, be grateful for all they have taught you, and consider it their gift to you to pass on to the horse that will be all yours.

                  And you now what? You won't ever take that for granted. I know, I haven't. Every day with my horse is a gift.

                  Big hugs.
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by thatmoody View Post
                    If you are a good enough rider to bring a horse along and improve its value, you are a good enough rider to be compensated for your trouble. You might not want to push it in this economy, but when things improve, keep that in mind when you're negotiating rides.
                    Not if you want to keep your ammy status.
                    "I'm not crazy...my mother had me tested"

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by SimplyRed View Post
                      trainer a, I totally understand how you felt like you had been taken advantage of. That's the exact same way it was with Harley. We were looking at showing him more seriously in the upcoming show season and the trainer has to let go of one horse and she picks him, the one she payed $1500 for and sold for about $6,000. I understand why it was better for her, but I too felt like she had taken advantage of me. That's why, after that I left that barn and am now riding with the trainer I ride with now who is a hundred times better.
                      I have been in your situation countless times, and I sympathize, but until you own one for yourself, I think it's hard to appreciate all that goes into ownership. I was grateful when I rode and leased other people's horses, BUT until I was 100% responsible for every bill, I didn't fully realize how lucky I was.

                      Horse ownership costs the same if you ride them yourself or if you allow someone else that privilege. It is wonderful you gave the horse lots of attention and love while you enjoyed riding it, but it's no one's responsibility to provide you with a horse. I am not insinuating that is what you are looking for by any means, but please understand the $6000 sale of the $1500 pony probably still resulted in a loss - shoes, board, vets, wormer, chiro, masseuse, lessons, vaccinations, training, coggins, sale photos/videos, etc.

                      You enjoyed riding this horse and all that comes with it, and I am sorry you won't be able to meet your showing goals, but even if you are putting a lot of time and effort into this horse, at the end of the day it's someone else's bills and someone else's liability. It is wonderful you want to continue riding him, but that could change tomorrow, and it would be the owner's responsibility to find someone else to ride it. The owner holds the burden of financial responsibility and the horse's wellbeing. I am sorry you feel taken advantage of and I hope that someday you are able to afford one of your own. I was very attached to several (one special was sold on my 16th birthday and I was convinced by parents bought him for me instead of a car, there were a lot of tears) but those attachments are nothing compared to how I feel for my two now.

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                        #31
                        Thank you!

                        Originally posted by RV View Post
                        I was very attached to several (one special was sold on my 16th birthday and I was convinced by parents bought him for me instead of a car, there were a lot of tears)
                        Haha that's what I asked for for my sixteenth birthday

                        Thank you everyone for the advice, and I really do appreciate these two guys. They've been amazing influences in my life. I realize that it wasn't really fair to say I was taken advantage of, and truly I probably wasn't. She gave me the opportunity to treat Harley like he was mine, which I believe is why I got so attached . And Red is a much better horse than I would ever have been able to afford on my own... we've jumped him up to 3' 6" and he cleared with ease. He is stylish and wins ribbons I wish I could own a horse like Red but *sigh* it's just not to be right now.

                        Its been a couple of days since I found out about the lady testing out Red and I've kinda came to terms with it. It is still tough to think about but if my trainer chooses to sell Red it is completely understandable, and there are other horses there for me to ride. I've actually ridden another horse a couple of times when Red had thrown a shoe or couldn't be ridden for some reason or another and he just lost his "primary" rider so I'd probably get to become that for him if Red is sold. So no, despite my rantings I won't ever truly give up riding. Even if for a time I can't ride I'll still be riding in my mind. Its a very special place that nobody truly understands in my brain .

                        But once again, Thank you guys for the great advice. I'm going out to the barn to spend the day with him and whether there is good news or bad awaiting me is yet to see... but regardless I will treasure my time with him even more so. I've always felt privileged to get to ride such an awesome horse as Red, and I know in my heart it truly would be better for him somewhere he was working more often and where he could be somebody's baby. Its very selfish of me not to want that for him, and I have said many times in the past he would benefit from someone who could take him to his full potential, its just a hard thing to lose him. Red is a special horse that would make somebody very very happy

                        Thanks
                        Katie

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