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  • #21
    That was disgusting. I know there are some successful prison rehab. programs out there whereby the inmates work with horses...giving both a chance in life,and I am all for that, but this prison rodeo is horrible. I noticed some the banners of the sponsors of this particular rodeo...Lowe's, Super Buffet, Bishop and Jamar's BBQ. I couldn't see the rest of the banners... Although most of those sponsors are not in my area, Lowe's is...so, BYE BYE LOWE'S...it's off to HOME DEPOT I go.
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    • #22
      Wow! That is bad-just bad. I have been to a few rodeos-one was the state level thingie. Never seen such behaviour. But I guess it is a prison rodeo-or maybe acceptable in that particular state?

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      • #23
        For those of you who stopped watching when the horse broke it legs, it was dragged hobbling out of the arena with a rope around it's neck, collapsed, was beaten back onto it's feet, dragged some more, and then shoved in a pen and left stand without care or relief of his suffering. It should have been euthanized on the spot! Sick sick sick! Those people should be charged with cruelty. Any event like that or the "wild horse race" should be banned. It is absolutely disgusting!

        I refuse to watch rodeo any more. I've been to a number of them over the years, watched many on TV and note how they never show the calf hitting the end of the rope but focus on the horse/rider instead... and even at the "good" rodeos, animals are treated with a total lack of consideration and respect. I'm not opposed to using animals for sport but this is not a sport where there is a training aspect or a partnership created with the animals but it's based on fearful abusive methods of subjugating the animals into submission. They are expendable for the entertainment value of it.

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        • #24
          so how do we also contact the sponsors? I want LOWES to know I am not shopping there anymore. They used to be my go to store! SICK SICK SICK

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          • #25
            I cant believe I watched that video. Sadly guys, as I found out the hard way, there is no such thing as animal cruelty in the state of Oklahoma.

            This is an atrocity. This is beyond disgusting and I truly think clips of this need to be sent to the sponsors of such a sport. We are rehabilitating these people for what, further cruelty.

            I am horrified.
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            • #26
              oops sorry, its the state of Arkansas that has no cruelty laws. My mistake
              Our horses are not seen as the old and disabled they may have become, but rather as the mighty steeds they once believed themselves to be.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by snkstacres View Post
                oops sorry, its the state of Arkansas that has no cruelty laws. My mistake
                The state of Arkansas does... we've seized horses there under cruelty laws. In many parts of the state it is damned near impossible to get the owners prosecuted, but there are laws and sometimes they get enforced. Sometimes..
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                • #28
                  I've always thought whoever came up with "convicts working with animals" programs needed their heads examined in the first place. Sorry, but a LOT of people are convicts BECAUSE they are violent. WHY do we want violent people with no respect for life working with LIVE ANIMALS? I'm not saying they ALL are, but SOME are and I've never thought it was safe for the animals. This video confirms it. Although surely not everybody involved is a convict, so what is their excuse?

                  I agree about getting this out to the major media.

                  And I am not anti-rodeo ... I've never seen anything like this in a normal PRCA rodeo. Rodeo, like racing, is scary as hell at the unregulated level.

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                  • #29
                    I am not going to watch the video, I will take your word for it. I just wanted to say that the whole convicts working with horses thing is the backbone of TRF and is absolutely fantastic for both man and beast. The stories that come out of that program are very moving. Don't let this video turn you off against that whole concept because it can work and has worked for decades when done correctly.
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by lindasp62 View Post
                      Although most of those sponsors are not in my area, Lowe's is...so, BYE BYE LOWE'S...it's off to HOME DEPOT I go.
                      So you're going to stop shopping at Lowe's instead of informing them that their sponsorship money is being used to promote something you find horrific?

                      Yeah, that'll show 'em!

                      Most sponsors rarely, if ever, go to the events that they're sponsoring. They're probably unaware of the atrocities, and the only way to make them aware is to give them a heads up.

                      Flouncing off like a 12 y/o whose BFF just said she thought her shoes were ugly does nothing. Exactly like those silly on-line petitions.
                      Homeopathy claims water can cure you since it once held medicine. That's like saying you can get sustenance from an empty plate because it once held food.

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                      • #31
                        How many "good hearted folks" were sitting in that audience enjoying the show? Are these the small town values I am supposed to care about? Where is the common decency here? Cheering and jeering while an animal is dragged on two broken legs? And those poor calves? And, I'm sure they would go around screaming about their "rights" if anyone had the common decency to shut this god-awful thing down.

                        Anyone who would support such a thing or pay to attend such a spectacle (and I include that god-awful "suicide" race in this) with absolutely no regard for the abject cruelty inflicted on these animals deserves a special place in hell. I would say prison, but, of course. . .

                        This should be just as illegal as dog fighting.

                        Disgusting. Just disgusting. That ANYONE would defend this as a "sport" or "good fun" is just amazing to me in a supposedly civilized society.
                        When life gives you lemons. . .say &%^# you lemons! And throw those lemons back in life's face so that it will be afraid of you and won't try that crap again!

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                          #32
                          Ok so what can we do to alert more people to this??

                          As I stated, I am not anti rodeo.. I am anti what is allowed to go on in this prison and that is supoorted and sponsored by a major retail chain for one. I haven't been able to watch past the point where the horse breaks his legs....

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                          • #33
                            Did anyone not read my last post? This EXACT same event happens every year at the Calgary Stampede in Alberta. Every year. Exact same thing. Thats what I thought I was watching on the youtube video at first. Except CS doesnt use convicts, it uses cowboys. Looks EXACTLY the same and every year a few horses have to be euthenized.
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                            • #34
                              Contacting their sponsors would be a good start. No money, no rodeo.

                              Most large retailers don't want to sponsor something extremely controversial, or anything that could be considered cruel.

                              Hit 'em in the wallet. That usually works extremely well.
                              Homeopathy claims water can cure you since it once held medicine. That's like saying you can get sustenance from an empty plate because it once held food.

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                              • #35
                                Originally posted by arabhorse2 View Post
                                So you're going to stop shopping at Lowe's instead of informing them that their sponsorship money is being used to promote something you find horrific?

                                Yeah, that'll show 'em!

                                Most sponsors rarely, if ever, go to the events that they're sponsoring. They're probably unaware of the atrocities, and the only way to make them aware is to give them a heads up.

                                Flouncing off like a 12 y/o whose BFF just said she thought her shoes were ugly does nothing. Exactly like those silly on-line petitions.
                                So true Arabhorse2!

                                Send Lowes an email stating your concerns, that might do more good than simply not shopping there.

                                But is obviously not near so dramatic, hu?

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                                • #36
                                  Uh, no...rodeo doesn't require abuse...but then, abuse is different things to different people. To PETA, abuse is "owning" a horse and sitting on it's back. To some people, eating meat is abuse and eggs are tanamount to a modern-day Auschwitz for chickens.

                                  Oh, ok. So please tell me then why every single picture of a bucking horse is one where the horse has his mouth wide open, eyes rolled back in fear while the rider mercilessly spurs the shit out of him? Yeah, what a nice partnership.
                                  Calves are chased down, a lasoo thrown around their necks and they are yanked backwards so violently they flip over backwards while someone ties their legs up. Yeah, that is also not abuse hey? Just good ol fun and games.
                                  Now we got the wild horse race here and ..yeah. those horses don't look COMPLETELY horrified.

                                  Sure, we all have different ideas about what is and is not abuse. But something tells me if any of the above was done to your animals you would be crying abuse.

                                  BTW..have you ever acttually seen how egg laying chickens live ( I am not comparing it to people, but really, if you think that is humane you are one sick person).
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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by Donella View Post

                                    BTW..have you ever acttually seen how egg laying chickens live .
                                    Yes ma'am I have seen it. I toured thru an operation that was the biggest around for quite some time. It was owned by a friend of a friend. I suppose if I wanted to give those chickens human thoughts I would find them to be miserable. But just looking at them in that set-up they all looked very content. They were well fed, etc.

                                    The bronc horses I have seen look to me like they enjoy their jobs and take great pride in their work. A good bronc horse is worth more than most of our horses are. They are well taken care of beasts.

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                                      #38
                                      GARRHHHH

                                      Guys, the point is not ANTI or PRO Rodeo.. it's what is going on in THIS situation.. in a prison. How can these CRIMINALS be "rehabilitated" (which I think is a load of BS anyway) when they are encouraged to be so cruel.. and this cruelty is SUPPORTED by major retail chains and obviously the Prison bosses and administrators.

                                      This is just disgusting. I have seen so much success with the use of dog training and horse training with prisoners... it's beautiful and I really do think it has its place.. but this is just awful and so so wrong.

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                                      • #39
                                        Someone needs to download the video and save it in case they take it down. There are tons of people who potentially have the influence to stop this- it's just going to take assuming ignorance and not idiocy to avoid alienating anyone who can help, and finding the right person. You could try the head of the states prison department, the mayor of the town, governor of the state, the public relations person and any higher up contact info at the sponsors, the local affiliates of the major tv stations, all the investigative news shows, and any state animal welfare groups.

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                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by Laurierace View Post
                                          I am not going to watch the video, I will take your word for it. I just wanted to say that the whole convicts working with horses thing is the backbone of TRF and is absolutely fantastic for both man and beast. The stories that come out of that program are very moving. Don't let this video turn you off against that whole concept because it can work and has worked for decades when done correctly.
                                          Absolutely!!

                                          However - that being said - what can we do, remotely, to stop this particular program? Can we get an address to write, or a phone number to call? Who made the video, we need to make sure they are reputable, and work legally to change this.

                                          I can't look at the video, it will haunt me for days.
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