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BLIND horse update: post 36 and question re: evaluating vision in a horse...

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  • #21
    Oh no! Massive jingles for my step-son! Let me know if there's anything I can do...I have connections remember!
    Only two emotions belong in the saddle: One is a sense of humor. The other is patience.


    • Original Poster

      Thanks all... flypony is right, the bad eye is the result of fluid build up and an old injury removing the means to "suck" the fluid out.

      As for the new eye... we still don't really know. My vet consulted with the ophthalmologist that he saw for the left eye, and they are very actively working with me to save the good eye. Specialist said if its not better by Monday, she'll schedule an emergency appt for me. (Thank God... took me four weeks to get in last time.)

      All we can tell so far is that there is no scratch or ulcer, she can't see to the back of the eye, it is a bit painful and swollen, but he is still able to blink. He is on neopolydex and sodium chloride TID until Monday, as well as banamine to help the pain.

      Without seeing it, the ophthalmologist is optimistic that it is just the result of some kind of trauma and it is protecting itself right now. I'm hoping shes right.

      I am absolutely blown away by his ability to adapt, however. Its really just incredible.

      Anyway, thanks for the jingles, and PLEASE, KEEP JINGLING!
      Big Idea Eventing


      • #23
        We haven't stopped jingling!!!
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        • #24
          JINGLING like crazy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


          • Original Poster

            Waiting for the vet again. Swelling is down today and a pinkish spot appeared at the bottom of his eye. We stopped the dex and he seems comfortable. He did get to go out for a few hours today and he did really well. So, we'll see what the vet says!!
            Big Idea Eventing


            • #26
              Originally posted by eponacowgirl View Post
              The vet is due to arrive any moment, but my TB gelding who is already blind in his left eye was acting funny this morning at feeding time. They told me he seemed cold, so I ran out to check on him. He was grazing calmly when I went out, but as soon as he heard me he threw up his head and acted alarmed. I walked up to him and he relaxed and let me lead him toward the gate, when I though 'man, his bad eye looks really bad today..' and then I realized it was his good eye. Its inflamed, a bit cloudy and very runny. He tripped into a stall and bumped each wall and bucket, so he's obviously not seeing anything. He's not paniced though, just unsure. Does moon blindness come on that fast? Hoping its just a scratch or ulcer. I'll update after the vet is out. Major jingles please?
              yes, and during this time the horse should be in , if his eyes are puffy as cold and diirect sunlight effects him, but dont be put off by him being blind, a i have a one also as you know
              make sure you help him by uing your voice, to touch him often when asking for soemthing
              and make sure all items i the stable and yard and field are in the same place as you would with a human blind person help him to help him self and make sure you feeds are on time
              keep a good rountine
              call the vet and get some pain killers for him or give him an asprin as its highly painful
              and dont forget when hes blind it can and is on going even when they have lost there site so its important to wear a fly mask at all times with him


              • #27
                Major Jingles from Canada!!!!!


                • #28
                  More major jingles from Ontario. Hope that your boy recovers fast!


                  • #29
                    More jingles for your boy!!!!
                    \"Tomorrow is a new day with no mistakes in it.\" Anne of Green Gables


                    • #30
                      Adding my jingles and hoping to see an update posted soon that says he got past this crisis.
                      *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
                      Steppin' Out 1988-2004
                      Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
                      Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015


                      • #31
                        My jumper showed most of her career being blind in one eye, last summer I got a call from the farm where she is turned out for retirement saying she was going blind in the other day and would probably need to get put down as she was having trouble getting around and seemed scared. After crying my eyes out, I told them to do whatever was necessary as I didn't want this noble mare to be in pain or scared. Well they waited it out and within two weeks she was completely blind, but also no longer having trouble getting around. The partial eyesight was more of a problem than being completely blind. She has a friend in the paddock that leads her around and doesn't let the other horses near her when she is eating. They are amazingly adaptable! jingles to you, please keep us updated.


                        • #32
                          Sending jingles!
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                          • #33
                            HUGE jingles for you guys!


                            • #34
                              Jingles to you!!

                              We are going through the same thing with one of my students ponies...he went from doing lessons to two days later almost completely blind with no signs or anything!!


                              • Original Poster

                                No real updates, but the boy is comfortable. I can't tell if he's regaining a bit of vision or just adapting. He's not allowed out anymore as the vet put him on Atropine yesterday when she came out. He isn't bumping into things as much.

                                He's been doing okay in the stall... he's typically pastured, so he had a rough morning when he didn't get to go out, but spent the rest of the day snoozing. He's settled down and allowing me to do his treatments without much fuss- except the oral banamine which he thinks is AWFUL.

                                I guess we'll likely be heading to the specialist tomorrow or Tuesday.
                                Big Idea Eventing


                                • Original Poster

                                  Well, he definitely has SOME vision back. I don't think he has all of it- he has trouble with depth and I think he can only see in front of his face... he has gotten to where he'll drop his head to the ground to navigate up steps up and down. Before he just ran into things. The eye looks normal and the vet is thinking we're on the road to recovery. He either has to stay in when its sunny or he can go out with a patch over his currently bad eye- which makes him totally blind since he can't see out of the left eye, either. I opted to keep him in today, because I think he's feeling good enough that he might try to move around a little more.

                                  Here's the new problem: How do you evaluate vision in a horse? I mean- hold out a cookie- did he see it or smell it? He didn't run his face into the water bucket- adapting or seeing? He didn't trip up the step in the aisle- remembering location or seeing? He stuck his nose through the halter after it touched him- habit or vision? He didn't look at the chestnut or palomino mare in one pasture, but he looked at a grey mare in a different pasture. He could have cared less about the chesnuts and bays in one pasture, but looked right at a black and a bay in a different pasture. He doesn't react when I throw a glove up in the air, but he doesn't care about stuff like that anyway. I can't try the "I'm going to poke you in the eye" method, because hes so used to treatments that he doesn't react.

                                  Any creative suggestions?
                                  Big Idea Eventing


                                  • #37
                                    you need a guardian fly mask on him at all times when out
                                    no ifs or buts get him one now


                                    • #38
                                      It's really hard to tell how much a horse can see. If they cannot see at all they will not have any "menace" response. The opthomologists and vets test the menace response by waiving an object quickly in front of the eye to see if the horse blinks or reacts. Sometimes there is no menace response, but they do react to light (tested by seeing if there is any reaction when a small light is waived in front of the eye). When my gelding was losing his vision in the first eye the opthomologist often did not get a menace response on that side, yet he had days where he bumped into things on that side less and we thought he could see some out of that eye - one theory was that he could detect some light and dark and so was reacting to the changes in light, rather than actual movement.


                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by eponacowgirl View Post
                                        Here's the new problem: How do you evaluate vision in a horse? I mean- hold out a cookie- did he see it or smell it? He didn't run his face into the water bucket- adapting or seeing? He didn't trip up the step in the aisle- remembering location or seeing? He stuck his nose through the halter after it touched him- habit or vision? He didn't look at the chestnut or palomino mare in one pasture, but he looked at a grey mare in a different pasture. He could have cared less about the chesnuts and bays in one pasture, but looked right at a black and a bay in a different pasture. He doesn't react when I throw a glove up in the air, but he doesn't care about stuff like that anyway. I can't try the "I'm going to poke you in the eye" method, because hes so used to treatments that he doesn't react.

                                        Any creative suggestions?
                                        Take some traffic cones and set them up in a random pattern.
                                        Lead him around and see if he avoids them or bumps into them.
                                        Or, if you have no cones, set up some bales of hay or bags of bedding.
                                        "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                                        ...just settin' on the Group W bench.


                                        • #40
                                          Speak with some of the rescues who have dealt with blind horses - like Lori from Sunkissed. They are a wealth of information for you!!
                                          a 501(c)3 organization helping 501(c)3 equine rescues