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  • #121
    Jingling from NYC.
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      #122
      Wel my vet just called, and said that the lab called her with the results as she was driving, so she didn't have her book in front of her to comoare values, but off the top of her head, they were definatly not right.

      Her renal enzymes were out of wack - I think she said high??

      Red and white blood cell counts were elivated - or maybe the red was low, I can't remember, just that she said the white indicated infection, and the red indicated anemia.

      Her potasium was low.

      Her Glucose was elivated even though she hadn;t been fed in a while.

      She said that with teh lab results and the fact that she has lost weight, and guzzling water, it it looks liek she is diabetic, though this iv pretty rare in horses.

      Anyway, I talked to her owner's son - the owner is with his raceorses in Ky and he said to go ahead and haul her to our vets clinic, so the guy who works out here part time will be here in an hour to take her to the vet's house, where she will be put on IV fluids, given antibiotics get more tests run on her, like a urinalysis. The vet is also going to sit down with the lab values when she gets home, to really study them better. I am just glad that teh owner's son made the right disicion.

      I am going to go now and change the title of this thread, because I hate seeing "I think Moose is dying" every time I log on.

      Thanks again everyone, just keep jingling/praying. Keep fighting Moose baby!!

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      • #123
        Oh Freebird - that is GREAT news!
        At least now she will be monitored and looked after and they will find out exactly what is wrong with her.

        Poor girl and poor you. Hang in there, cuddle your son and reassure the poor little guy that everything will be back to normal again soon!

        Continued jingles for all ...

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        • #124
          Good to hear!! Sounds like Moose is a tough old girl!

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          • #125
            Good news - everyone will get a little rest, too. Whoever said kidneys in a previous post has good instincts. The blindness could be related, too, if it's diabetes, but like your vet said diabetes is pretty rare. I'm so happy the news isn't bad and I'll keep up the jingles.

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            • #126
              I am SO relieved for you & Moose that the owner did the right thing. Do please keep us posted!

              Still jingling!

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              • #127
                Will keep jingling. You let me know if you need help and I'll hope in the Dodge this evening.

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                • #128
                  So happy to hear you may have an answer and that the owner is going for treatment!!

                  I was so worried about Moose (I love that name, BTW) and am still jingling for her.

                  Please keep us posted on the treatment and how Moose is doing!!
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                  • #129
                    good news !!!!!

                    now isnt diabetes similar to IR in horse..as in cushingoid?

                    or did i smoke too much crack this morning and my brain cells are fried????

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                    • #130
                      I know a dog is different from a horse, but right before my lab (has since passed on) was diagnosed with diabetes she dropped a ton of weight and was extremely lethargic. She lived for 5 years after that with diabetes getting shots two times a day. She went blind and finally went into kidney failure and started having seizures. That is when we put her to sleep last february. So who knows.

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                      • #131
                        Moose sounds so perseverant! She is so lucky to have someone like you. Good luck with her, and I'll keep on jingling!

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                        • #132
                          Jingling here in PA! Don't forget to rest, YOURSELF, when you can!
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                          • #133
                            Jingles from Canada!
                            I have been following this thread with worry lines on my forehead and my heart in my mouth: not much I can do or say from here that hasnt been done or said.
                            However, I have been thinking of the number of these kinds of threads on both this post and EMG in Canada that our wonderful equine community shares in and provides support for each other.
                            While that is wonderful, the number of times this sort of gutwrenching worry occurs has led me to the realization that the farmers are right - we horse people are all nuts to be in a sport where such heartbreaking worry occurs so often! But I know everyone will join me in saying that they wouldnt have it any other way: the love for horses is what makes us care so much.
                            Good luck to you dear Freebird and your sweet Moose and I hope you can hear our jingles from Canada!

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                            • #134
                              Like Riggs, I've been checking in regularly, hoping for good news. I'm so glad they owners could finally be reached, and are doing everything that can be done. I hope you get a chance to get some rest, too.

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                              • #135
                                It sounds almost like she may have Cushing's, and now might be foundering. That would explain her staying off her feet, and drinking so much water (indicative of Cushing's). http://www.crmdvm.com/cushings.htm

                                Good luck with her.

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                                • #136
                                  Jingles for Moose! Awaiting an update here.

                                  I first thought ulcers myself, but she would probably be in extreme pain by now if one had ruptured.

                                  I lost my dog on christmas to a gastric ulcer over an artery and he lost 20 lbs in 2-3 days, became lethargic, went down, pale gums, low glucose, high white, low red. So same signs but when he went down he went down really fast and really hard. My thoughts are that she would have gone downhill already.

                                  Hopefully its not an ulcer or anything that is immediately life threatening.

                                  I hope my post didn't scare you, but just wanted to open you eyes to another possiblity.

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                                    #137
                                    Tommy and the guy with the truck and trailer left a whil ago with Moose, and should be at the vet's house any minute now. The vet won't be home for 2 more hours, but they are going to fix her up in teh round pen with lost of water, and soem hay. She was looking better before she left, though she hasn't had a poop yet. It was a bit stressfull though because the guy with the trailer - who works out here part time - was being a total A hole. He's one of those "I am older then you, therefore I know more about horses the you"...even though he has about as many brain cells as a tree stump I know that sounds mean, but right when he got here, he started saying all this stuff like we don't care for our horses. He looked out in the pasture, and saw Moe, who is on the verge of being really foundered verses slightly foundered, and said how we need to take his muzzle off and start feeding him. Umm, I don't think so. Yes he is a touch thin, but I'll take a touch thin over foundered ANY day - and the vet agrees. Then he goes to the other pasture and sees the water trough is turned over. Now we had just checked it a few hours before, and it looked like it had JUST happen, but he said "Oh, are we not giving those horses water now?" Now, I must explain that we have a year and a half year old bull calf, and whil is is small for a bull, he silll weighs about 800 lbs, and when he's bored I guess, he likes to dump teh water trough - even when it is completly full. Anyway, so now the guy is saying that he thinks that the only reason why Moose got sick is because she got dehydrated (in other words, we let her get that way) UGHHHHH!!!!!! I think he's just afraid of the truth because him and this other guy were the ones that picked out all these horses for our boss, and lets see so far we have 2 chronicly foundered, 1 mental case, 1 with some kind of neurological thing going on, and then there's Moose. Anyway, sorry for the rambling and venting.... Hopefully the vet will call later this afternoon.

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                                    • #138
                                      Oh, honestly Freebird - that guy was the last thing you needed, huh? I'm sorry for his comments, and I hope you gave him a big smile that said "Whatever, dude, just get in your truck and go." Keep us posted.

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                                      • #139
                                        What a JERK! The last thing you need right now is some know-it-all spouting off about all the things you are doing *wrong* (none of which of course are true!)

                                        Keep you chin up and don't let this dumb*** get to you. You have done everything you can for Moose. Good luck!!!
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                                        • #140
                                          What a jerk.....I know how much you love and care for your horses. Just don't listen to him.

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