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Peruvian Paso owners-can you watch this one move and look for problems?

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  • Peruvian Paso owners-can you watch this one move and look for problems?

    We are getting a new Peruvian for my mother and I have NO idea how to check the movement for lameness issues! LOL Can anyone who knows how they should move weigh in and tell me if you see anything in this guy? Going to meet him Thursday and don't have any idea if everything looks good! See anything to be concerned about? Thanks so much!

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    Please excuse the typos...I'm always on my iPhone and autocorrect is not my friend. Yes I mean mares autocorrect...not mates.

  • #2
    The "come here shithead" at the end of the first video does not endear the owners to me.

    I think he's cute, but am just as lost as you, unfortunately!

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      #3
      I know!!! I actually had my phone on silent when I watched it and posted it but my friend watched it with sound and just pointed that out! Poor guy! Seems like a willing little fellow!
      Please excuse the typos...I'm always on my iPhone and autocorrect is not my friend. Yes I mean mares autocorrect...not mates.

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      • #4
        Sorry, I am way too unfamiliar with gaited horses to offer anything useful. But I have several trail riding friends who absolutely love them!
        Man plans. God laughs.

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        • #5
          A thorough PPE would be top on my list of suggestions. It can be really difficult to "read" gaited horses. Because he's not really settled into any particular gait in the first clip, it doesn't give any real clues. The second clip shows a little more steadiness, but still not enough that I'd feel comfortable giving an opinion.

          He's really cute, and in general I love the Peruvian temperment. Hope he works out for your mom.
          Patience pays.

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          • #6
            I used to own a PP, awesome horse! But to my untrained, unskilled eye (totally giving you confidence, eh?) it looks like he trying to gait/canter. Weird... is he a young horse??? I would say that he is and has not had much training at all and has just started to lunge.

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            • #7
              When he's in gait, he looks ok, but she keeps trying to make him canter so he only shows his gait briefly. The rest of the time, he's doing an in-between 4-beat canter.
              He looks cute.
              Check him for DSLD.
              Peruvians have very high rates of DSLD.
              You are what you dare.

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              • #8
                he looks uncomfortable to me, just my opinion. definitely a trier, but everything he does looks so LABORIOUS.
                AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012

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                  #9
                  My moms last Peruvian suffered from DSLD so I'm nervous about another one! But she has a bad back and loves the feeling they give when out on the trail! She had her other Peruvian for 20 years and retired him to pasture at 25 when his DSLD got bad. She put him down 3 years later. That was 2 years ago and she is finally ready for another horse. I'm sooooo happy shes getting back in the saddle! I just want to make sure we find the right one as she hasn't ridden in 5 years now!

                  This guy was apparently the trail mount for an older lady with back problems. He is now with a younger girl who wants something "more challenging". He sat all winter and they pulled him out and put him on the lumge for the video so I think he's quite out of shape! I agree he's kind of half gaiting/half trying to canter which makes it hard to tell! He does go into his true gait a couple of times but I just have no eye for gaited horses! Thank you for the input so far! He sounds perfect but we all know how deceiving what people say and what you actually find when you go see the horse can be! Fingers crossed he's sound and perfect and my mom can finally get back to doing what she loves!!
                  Please excuse the typos...I'm always on my iPhone and autocorrect is not my friend. Yes I mean mares autocorrect...not mates.

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                  • #10
                    Make sure he checks out on right hind.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GoForAGallop View Post
                      The "come here shithead" at the end of the first video does not endear the owners to me.

                      I think he's cute, but am just as lost as you, unfortunately!
                      Did you catch, right before the Come here Shithead, they discuss whether to go the other direction but decide not to because he doesn't go well that way?

                      Maybe they didn't realize they were recording audio?
                      "I am but a passenger on this ship"
                      -- Stendal (epitaph)

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                      • #12
                        I don't like the right hind, either. I have a Paso Fino, not quite the same, but I am seeing something wonky in the hind end, he's not evenly gaiting and looks like he's favoring it.

                        Also he needs some work on keeping his gait, why was she clucking and making him do an awkward canter? I would definitely do a vet check on this guy.

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                        • #13
                          He looks pacey, which tends to rock you more side to side.

                          But his pacing could be contributed to the fact he's out of shape and she wasn't exactly doing him any favors with the longeing job.

                          I'd love to have a Peruvian, but the termino freaks me out. LOL

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                          • #14
                            He doesn't have a left lead in his repertoire, but is is likely he has never been asked/allowed to canter and it wouldn't come easily to him anyway since the canter is not a gait they develop or breed for.

                            When he is in his Paso Corto he looks square enough

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                            • #15
                              To start with--my only experience with a gaited horse was a Paso Fino mare I had for over 20 years. I know Peruvians are different, but--I would ask the vet to go over his his loin/back area very closely. I was getting the feeling that a lot of what he was doing with his legs was tied into this area not moving right.

                              He also is a bit too heavy. Paso's can get really fat really quickly, and I always kept my mare's weight down so she would not founder. I would definitely recommend that this horse be put on a diet, his big crest would worry me.

                              But then again, I've never had anything to do with Peruvian Pasos. I could well be wrong.

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                              • #16
                                I tried to post an answer to the questions but it doesn't sound right, so have kept deleting them before posting.

                                I don't know, he looks nervous and hurried, but it can very well be the hurried handling.
                                He keeps being pushed into canter and at the hurried trot he seems off at times on the left hind, someone else posted right hind, so not sure.
                                If riding, the way I see it, you would feel a hitch, like taking a bad step when the left hind goes down, as that hip seems to go down.
                                It could be that he has trouble on the small circle, happens to laterally gaited horses at times and nothing is wrong, but it doesn't show going the other way, where he does canter on the proper lead for that circle.

                                My guess, those videos may be lying all around, can't see anything from them other than a horse hurried around and around moving oddly.

                                I would want to show a horse for an older lady that just wants a very quiet sweet horse being just that, a quiet sweet horse, not one chased around senselessly.
                                That alone tells you the ones making the video don't know what they have or are looking at or are on purpose acting like they are clueless.

                                Anyone can chase a super sweet horse around until it gets alarmed and wondering why the world is so crazy all of a sudden and starts getting antsy and worried and nervous.

                                Either way, I would get the horse vetted and take a sensible trainer with you for a second pair of experienced eyes on the situation, before settling on that horse being what you want for your mother.

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                                • #17
                                  He really only takes a few steps in gait - the rest is that in-between thing - so it's difficult to see if there's anything off about him. I'd like to see him under saddle (or in long lines) to see if he has gait issues. Unless you're trying to see if he can canter, the woman isn't showing him off well.
                                  You are what you dare.

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                                  • #18
                                    G1st video, outside hind leg

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                                    • #19
                                      But I think he is still worth a look, even if he isn't 100% on a short lunge he very well may be the horse for your situation.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                                        I don't know, he looks nervous and hurried, but it can very well be the hurried handling.
                                        He keeps being pushed into canter and at the hurried trot he seems off at times on the left hind, someone else posted right hind, so not sure.
                                        That's the way all Pasos look to me. Because their legs are so quick. I think they've given all of them way too much caffeine. Their gaits and characteristics are very different, if not opposite, from what we are used to seeing or want to see.

                                        Speaking specifically of the Paso Finos (which I know are slightly different than the Peruvians) Their most prized trained gait is the Fino, and the quicker and tighter the better. Termino is what we would call Winging or Paddling. We hate it, they love it. Scorpion Tail, which to most of us would indicate that the horse is very tense, or maybe about to paste us with a double barreled kick, is so desirable that they have been known to surgically alter tails to achieve the look.

                                        I think this is a pretty normal looking backyard Paso and I don't see any warning signs. In fact, I think he's sort of cute. Just very right handed.

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