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  • Idea for companion - good or bad?

    I wrote about my old pony in a thread last month:

    http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...trimmed-Advice

    Bottom line is he won't be with us much longer. Had the vet out and she agreed it would be kind to let him go soon.

    That will leave my 33 year old donkey without a friend. I don't want to get another horse (donkey hates other donkeys and only likes horses) because of his age and because I want to escape this pattern of always getting a friend for a friend. I'm fine with having an empty barn eventually. I board my riding horse.

    I thought that I would offer to take in a retired horse and pay for the hay and take care of him but have the owner pay farrier and vet. When my donkey passes, the owner has to take the horse back.

    I've talked to a few friends about my idea and they liked it. One really wanted me to take her horse, but he's high maintenance. I need an easy keeper like the donkey.

    Of course there would be a contract. What would you put in the contract? What pitfalls would you anticipate?
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    Why not take in a retiree as an actual boarder? You can keep the price reasonable in line with how much time/feed/etc. he'll need, but that way you're making a little money, hopefully enough to help with the donk's upkeep besides, and you're A LOT less likely to wind up feeling "used" in the end.

    There are many "template" boarding contracts and hold-harmless releases you can find online; I'd just get a liability release, ask the boarder to make sure she has personal liability insurance on her horse, and have a simple list of "barn rules" like pay on the first of the month, no dogs and children, no riding, BO has permission to treat w/vet in emergencies, that kind of thing.

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    • #3
      In '07 I had to put down one of my horses, leaving me with just one horse that was already retired. I did exactly what you're thinking about doing.

      I'm pretty anal about care of the retirees, heck horses in general, and I wrote up a brief contract that stated just exactly what veterinary work I exected with vaccinations, dental, wellness exams etc. Diddo with farrier.

      I also included that if the owner of the companion retiree wanted to bury their horse on my property, that was fine with me as long as they covered the cost. One of them is buried in the back pasture along with 3 of mine.

      I was lucky in that I had 2 very good companions and one that the horse was OK but the owner was a bit of a PITA. I did end up having that horse leave, not because of the owner, but the horse was such an easy keeper, I had to restrict summer turnout on excellent grass pastures from 12 hrs eventually down to 6. I didn't think it fair to my horse who was fine on grass for 12 hrs.
      Sue

      I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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      • #4
        Are you sure the donkey will want another horse for companion?
        33 is not really very old for a donkey, but it is up there in years.
        We have had horses that, as they get old, they really rather be alone, thank you.
        One horse I have now doesn't really care if there are other horses around or not.
        Others are bonded to some other horse and only want that one for company.
        A few fretted without company, or were depressed, no matter who it is, they wanted a friend.

        It is good to line up some company if you feel he will mope without, but it is not a given.
        May want to see first how he fares alone, with some extra attention from you.

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        • #5
          33's not OLD? How long do those longears LIVE?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lady Eboshi View Post
            33's not OLD? How long do those longears LIVE?
            I think 30 - 40 years is a normal lifespan, says the person with a 30-odd year old Donkey.

            The only thing about taking in a boarder is that I do think the OP would need her own liability insurance (in addition to her boarder carrying it). If someone sues, they'll sue the OP as well as the owner, and if the OP is taking money then her homeowner's insurance won't cover her.

            I think free leasing a companion could be the way to go, or offering free board to a retiree if the owner pays for vet and farrier, and takes the retiree back.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by SMF11 View Post
              I think 30 - 40 years is a normal lifespan, says the person with a 30-odd year old Donkey.

              The only thing about taking in a boarder is that I do think the OP would need her own liability insurance (in addition to her boarder carrying it). If someone sues, they'll sue the OP as well as the owner, and if the OP is taking money then her homeowner's insurance won't cover her.

              I think free leasing a companion could be the way to go, or offering free board to a retiree if the owner pays for vet and farrier, and takes the retiree back.
              OP will still need liability insurance even if it's free board.

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              • #8
                I would think that at 33, the donkey may very well not take kindly to just any companion.
                To provide one may cause it more stress than being alone in his own little happy home.

                It all depends, if the donkey is already not fond of donkeys, he may also be hard to please any more with any other company.

                Just more to add to this search, consider the donkey's ideas here, not what we think it needs.

                I provided my older horse with a companion when the other much older one died and he clearly is fine alone, took a few to find one he tolerates and I am not sure he rather be alone anyway, but I thought he needed company.
                Maybe he didn't, but they are kind of getting along, both seemingly happy enough, friends but not that into each other.
                Their pasture is a mile long and they may at times graze together, other times be the whole mile separated, each one doing their own thing alone at opposite ends, no one fretting where the other is, so not really that much of a buddy to each other.

                You have to decide what your donkey wants, not always easy to determine with what we think he needs.

                If you were looking for a horse for yourself to enjoy, then you get that horse and make it work with the donkey, as they serve a different purpose than just getting one other to keep the donkey company.

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                  #9
                  Thanks for the input. I hadn't thought about liability insurance. That's a definite must.

                  Donkeys can live 40 years or more. My guy is quite healthy except for some minor arthritis.

                  Bluey, I think my donkey would be heartbroken alone. When my old horse (the one before I got the pony) died of colic suddenly, he was awful. He cried and brayed. When the new pony friend arrived, he was so excited. The two of them are good buddies and they fret when not together. He was also happy to see other horses who have been on the property temporarily. I think he doesn't like donkeys because, as far as I know, he only ever lived with horses.

                  One thought I had was to bring in the new one before I let the pony go. I'm hoping that will ease the loss for the donkey.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
                    OP will still need liability insurance even if it's free board.
                    Yes, but if she is not doing commercial boarding, b/c she's free leasing a horse, her homeowner's should cover her.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rosijet View Post
                      Thanks for the input. I hadn't thought about liability insurance. That's a definite must.

                      Donkeys can live 40 years or more. My guy is quite healthy except for some minor arthritis.

                      Bluey, I think my donkey would be heartbroken alone. When my old horse (the one before I got the pony) died of colic suddenly, he was awful. He cried and brayed. When the new pony friend arrived, he was so excited. The two of them are good buddies and they fret when not together. He was also happy to see other horses who have been on the property temporarily. I think he doesn't like donkeys because, as far as I know, he only ever lived with horses.

                      One thought I had was to bring in the new one before I let the pony go. I'm hoping that will ease the loss for the donkey.
                      Oh, yes, then better maybe try some companion first, three is not hard to care for, for a bit, let them make friends first and maybe all will go seamlessly.

                      On the insurance, talk to your agent, may not be too much to add to the general liability to cover any damages animals kept by you in your place may do.
                      That should not be costly or hard to get.

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                      • #12
                        Just be aware that it is entirely possible that said horse once it is there may end up being abandoned at your farm, I have seen it happen several times. A boarding situation is ideal, but it is possible that you will maybe become the proud owner of new horse whether you like it or not.

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                        • #13
                          Is there a rescue nearby? (or a day's trailer ride) Maybe you could foster one of their retirees or horses needing more time with the caveat that it be returned when the donkey goes. Does the donkey like goats?
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by summerhorse View Post
                            Is there a rescue nearby? (or a day's trailer ride) Maybe you could foster one of their retirees or horses needing more time with the caveat that it be returned when the donkey goes. Does the donkey like goats?
                            That is a good idea. I am fearful of abandonment and don't have the heart to run a horse through an auction which I think is how you have to deal with that.

                            The pony came from a rescue so I could ask them if we could do a foster.

                            I think my donk would stomp a goat. He may be old but he can hustle when he sees a dog or cat in his territory and wants it out.
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