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  • Running braid/show grooming help

    Daisy the lippitt morgan pony's mane is long and full. I am showing dressage with her in the near future. I'm generally a competent braider.

    I can do a nice running braid and this appears to stay, but after she stretches down (like in the photo to graze, made it possible to photograph), the braid stretches and gets rumpled. Any advice/tips?

    Braided nicely:





    And now rumpled . (The loose wispies were already there, not fallen out)



    And what I've got to work with. Curls courtesy of the braid..


  • #2
    To my eye, your original braid isn't tight enough. To get it as close to the crest as I can I almost flip it over to the other side when I'm braiding (I've occasionally done it from the horse's back but a good step stool should do!)

    Don't braid over the withers, that stretches the braid and makes it pull loose more easily.

    You may have to rebraid between classes, which shouldn't be a problem since a good running braid only takes about 2 minutes.
    Originally posted by BAC
    I don't think FF's post was rude (not this one at least).

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    • #3
      I tried the running braid for half of a season with my mare. I had the same problem as you (from this to this) and it drove me crazy! In general, I found that it stayed nicer if I left it a little bit looser and gave it some room to stretch in the first place (ignore our awful dressage!). If you can get her to stretch her neck down a bit while you're braiding that might help.

      After that, I killed myself keeping it pulled thin enough to put in button braids, and then I went off the deep end and decided that the roached look isn't so bad after all

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      • #4
        It only takes a couple of minutes to braid. Braid before your class and after you have warmed up so she doesn't need to stretch.

        Take it out after your class and repeat for the next class.

        Laugh when you think of all the others getting up at 4am so as they can plait.
        It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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        • #5
          With my morgan I wait until the last possible second to braid, as I'm tacking up so there's no more grazing/eating. To help with the folding/bunching I take small pieces (2" long) and tie them through the braid. I add about 4 pieces of yarn down the mane and it helps keep the braid tight to the crest.

          This trick has helped my braids last quite a bit longer. Sometimes if I braid before warming up but my class gets delayed I can remove the rubber band at the withers and unbraid the last few inches so that the horse can lower his head without tugging and loosening the braid. It's quick and easy to grab the loose ends and finish off the braid. Lasts for a few classes this way!

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            #6
            Originally posted by SuzieQNutter View Post
            It only takes a couple of minutes to braid. Braid before your class and after you have warmed up so she doesn't need to stretch.

            Take it out after your class and repeat for the next class.

            Laugh when you think of all the others getting up at 4am so as they can plait.
            I've never gotten up that early to do my regular button braids! I don't think I've ever spent more than 20 mins braiding either of my other two horses. Luckily this braid doesn't Take too long either!

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            • #7
              You need to do a full french. That's the only way to avoid pulling out and as french fry said, don't go all the way down. You can usually tell where the pull starts towards the end of the neck and there you can just do a separate short running braid or a few small regular braids and scallop them.

              I owned an arabian and showed him braided for dressage. I got to be a pro at braiding and really you have to do a full french. A half is only good for really thick manes to create a drape, not pull it up tight on the crest.

              ETA: You can in sections do half (where the mane thins out too much) and its actually rather useful if you have a rubbed spot.

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              • #8
                I used to break braid binders and tie them around the braid every couple of inches to help support the braid.

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                  #9
                  Thanks for the tips... Will have to experiment over the next few days!

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                  • #10
                    my daughter used this style braiding on her Morgan

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                    • #11
                      A good friend does two braids, one on each side of the neck. Of course this is easiest when you can climb on the horse bareback and braid from there... not sure how willing your little mare is to deal with that.

                      She also uses Braid-Ez (sp?) braiding wires with one mare who has a particularly thick, long mane.
                      You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                      1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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                      • #12
                        I do a running braid every time I ride my mare. It took a lot of practice to get it to stay nice. My mare has a very thick mane that gets thickest in the middle and then this a bit towards the withers.
                        I braid with her neck in a neutral position, as level with her back as possible gives nice results.
                        I start with fairly large sections and add sections based on mane thickness, so slightly bigger cations when it gets thicker and smaller sections as it thins. Keep everything close to the crest tight but not overly tight. Give it a little more give as you approach the withers.
                        Also don't use any show sheen or such products.
                        My braid lasts an entire ride with no noticible rumpling, have even left it overnight and it still looked decent the next day.
                        And practice, you have to get a feel for it, each mane is different. I've done my friends horse, who has a really long, but not very thick mane, and it's a little different process.

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                        • #13
                          I used to braid my Belgian X in a running braid. whatever directions I read said to keep your holding hand as close to the neck as possible. that helps some and I also took smaller sections and he had a lot of mane!

                          I also pulled tight after each and every cross and redid sections if they didn't look tight enough before I went on.

                          I also ended before the withers and almost as soon as I was finished, we had our lesson.

                          There is some sort of trick to doing this well or maybe a lot of practice?

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