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  • #41
    [QUOTE=sonomacounty;8082914]"So if you really don't like accents other than yours, you going to be in a world of trouble."

    Now, who in the world said that, Spotted Draft? How did you come up with that? I did not say that and that is completely false. Please read for accuracy and do not read things in.

    Uh...you said in your original post that you're not a fan of the southern accent which is another way of saying you don't like it. Yes there's all sorts of "southern" accents here plus lots of other types of accents. So if you're not a fan of the southern accent, you're going to be miserable here listening to it.

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    • #42
      I work with folks from Eastern and they have turns of phrase that are unique IMO. My trainer says haryu! for a greeting. It's not Southern though, not deep South.
      Some of the old men, I have to learn their dialect and then I'm fine.
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      • #43
        Roseymare, So Ill-- REALLY is like Kentucky. My Grandmother was born there-- Cave in Rock to be exact. All my relatives crossed over and joined the Union army in Ky units.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by SmartAlex View Post
          Sometimes I hear myself say Pin for Pen or something like that and phrases like "fixin' to" are part of my vernacular.
          Um, how can you say "pin" for "pen" when they sound exactly the same??

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            #45
            Spotted Draft:

            " . . . but there's more than just a southern accent in Lexington. You have people there from all over the country and world""

            "So if you really don't like accents other than yours, you going to be in a world of trouble.""

            Do you not recall, we just went over this? Again, I did not say any other accents bother me. I said Shug's accent is very nice, in fact. So, again, where do you get "other than yours"? You are not using accurate reasoning. Also, go back a few posts to where I said that would not trump a nice area. You are not hearing what I'm saying, you are just hearing what you want to hear, not what I said, what you twisted into " is terribly bothered by all accents" which is not what I said or think. Wow. Please be more accurate. A bit hyper we are, eh?

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              #46
              Spotted Draft:

              " . . . but there's more than just a southern accent in Lexington. You have people there from all over the country and world""

              "So if you really don't like accents other than yours, you going to be in a world of trouble.""

              Do you not recall, we just went over this? Again, I did not say any other accents bother me. I said Shug's accent is very nice, in fact. So, again, where do you get "other than yours"? You are not using accurate reasoning. Also, go back a few posts to where I said that would not trump a nice area. Do you not recall that also? You are not hearing what I'm saying, you are just hearing what you want to hear, not what I said, what you twisted into " is bothered by all accents" which is not what I said or think. Wow. Please be more accurate. A bit hyper we are, eh?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Griffyn View Post
                  Roseymare, So Ill-- REALLY is like Kentucky. My Grandmother was born there-- Cave in Rock to be exact. All my relatives crossed over and joined the Union army in Ky units.
                  Same county! I am sure my MIL would know your family!

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                  • #49
                    OP, you are correct in that several people incorrectly assumed that you didn't like accents other than your own or that you might actually consider not moving to a location because the local accent was one you couldn't accept. You are right: you never said that.

                    However, you did make what several people found to be a very offensive comment about southern accents. The way you framed your OP made it sound that since you were "considering" moving to Kentucky, one of the criteria to help you decide would be people's answers about the local accent. It didn't sound as if you were merely curious. You didn't exactly say this, but the fact that you included a very offensive comment about the southern accent (made worse by the "no offense" comment) probably encouraged people to jump to this conclusion.

                    You don't seem to recognize or care that your offhand comment was offensive to many. You never did acknowledge that this comment might be offensive to people. You reiterated your right to an opinion and seemed huffy that others misunderstood you. Your comment that of course you would never say this to people's faces doesn't make it OK.

                    It's natural for people to have preferences about accents just as they do about everything. However, an accent is a part of people's identity. People who speak with a southern accent sometimes charm outsiders, but just as often, they get comments like "Didn't anyone teach you to speak properly?" or people assume they are stupid or backward. Now, you may not share this opinion about the southern accent, but southerners have put up with it so long that that may be why people are jumping on you. I encourage you to examine your own motives and attitudes now that you have pointed out that you were misquoted and perhaps misunderstood.
                    Last edited by Dewey; Apr. 1, 2015, 05:53 AM.
                    I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                      #50
                      Well said & well written, Dewey. I do apologize.

                      And, yes, a regional accent would not be a factor in where I'd decide to live.

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                      • #51
                        I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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                        • #52
                          Originally posted by shakeytails View Post
                          I did. I also had to input where I learned my dialect. I got to the end, hit submit, and got The maps are generated dynamically. This means that if you have taken the survey you should be able to find your own response on the map! We are experiencing high levels of traffic at the moment and have temporarily disabled the dynamic updating of the maps.
                          I'm sorry about that!
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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by sonomacounty View Post
                            Well said & well written, Dewey. I do apologize.

                            And, yes, a regional accent would not be a factor in where I'd decide to live.
                            thank you. Your post was offensive and I abstained from commenting because there was no way to be Southern and not say wha???

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                            • #54
                              [QUOTE=mp;8082190](I'm a midwesterner, so I don't have an accent. ) /QUOTE]


                              Sez you!
                              I had a friend living in Knoxville,TN for a while.
                              When I'd visit (from Chicago) I always got called on my accent, as in:
                              "Yer from Back East arncha?"

                              BTW:
                              If you do move to KY it is pronounced "Loovull", not "Looey-ville"
                              (As corrected by a friend from Corbin,KY)
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                              • #55
                                Originally posted by Dewey View Post
                                Yes, OP, if you're going to move to a place characterized by regional dialects, you need an attitude adjustment. You're not going to win friends or enjoy your new home if you can't accept the way people talk. It really is a part of their identity.

                                I suggest you start by watching Do You Speak American? or the 80s documentary American Tongues if you can get hold of a copy. My students love it. There's actually a section on Kentucky. People have uploaded parts of it on youtube.

                                The filmmakers traveled all over the country and interviewed lots of everyday people. They asked them questions like, "Who do you think talks funny?" and "How do you like the way you talk?" The results are fascinating: not only do viewers get to hear Pennsylvania Dutch, Cajun, Tangiers Island dialect, the many variations of Boston English, and many more, but most viewers end up admitting their own linguistic prejudices and learning a ton. It's a great film.

                                Oooooh those sound interesting, taking note!
                                I once had a geology class in the same room the period after a linguistic class with a really fascinating professor and I started to come early just to sit in the hallway by the door and listen in on the lectures. Really interesting stuff!

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
                                  BTW:
                                  If you do move to KY it is pronounced "Loovull", not "Looey-ville"
                                  in our family it comes out sort of like "Lulvull"

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                                  • #57
                                    Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post

                                    BTW:
                                    If you do move to KY it is pronounced "Loovull", not "Looey-ville"
                                    (As corrected by a friend from Corbin,KY)
                                    I was at the Oaks half a dozen years ago and everyone at the table was trying to teach me how to correctly pronounce Louisville. (I am not a native Kentuckian though I've lived here now for 12 years.) I could not quite get my tongue wrapped around it...until after my 3rd mint julep, when Loovull became quite easy to say.
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                                    • #58
                                      Originally posted by SmartAlex View Post
                                      in our family it comes out sort of like "Lulvull"
                                      YES! I just taught a friend of ours how to say it "properly" the other day.
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                                      • #59
                                        My step brother was from Philly and he said yous. Pronounced ewes.
                                        Just like our eyes, our hearts have a way of adjusting to the dark.--Adam Stanley

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                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by bits619 View Post
                                          Oooooh those sound interesting, taking note!
                                          I once had a geology class in the same room the period after a linguistic class with a really fascinating professor and I started to come early just to sit in the hallway by the door and listen in on the lectures. Really interesting stuff!
                                          It is fascinating. My favorite course in grad school was sociolinguistics, and I teach freshman writing with a sociolinguistics theme.
                                          I heard a neigh. Oh, such a brisk and melodious neigh as that was! My very heart leaped with delight at the sound. --Nathaniel Hawthorne

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