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  • #21
    Goats will eat anything. I once had one latch on to my horse's tail while we were trotting around the ring. Fun!
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    • #22
      Seriously, I don't think you need an "angle" to approach this with your BO. I would just be direct. You want to come out and ride and not have your belongings destroyed by someone else's animal. That's an extremely reasonable and valid expectation.

      Yes, it is possible that she will tell you that she doesn't want to confine the goat or come up with any alternate solution, and that information will be helpful to you because you will then know that you either choose to live with it or move on. Ultimately it is her place it's her place and her prerogative to decide if her pet goat is more important to her than her clients.

      If you decide you MUST use some kind of an angle, I definitely would recommend against using the liability one. Liability for what? Are you planning to sue her? That's how that would come across. And as far as insurance? I can guarantee her insurance does NOT cover other people's belongings stored on her property. Insurance doesn't work that way.

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      • #23
        20" is no deterrent for car hopping.
        I farmsit for a neighbor with a miniature goat who is nearly as wide as she is tall.
        She gets let out of her stall while I' m there feeding & turning out/ bringing in horses.
        Little demoness can easily hop from the floor to the lid of the 4' high grain bin w/o making a sound.
        She is so smart she is making me want one of my own.
        Only the fact that I'd have to goatproof my fencing is stopping me.
        So far.....
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        • #24
          I will NOT board where there is a free range goat, ever again I've had my horse's tail chewed off (it took 2 years to re-grow), and the goat climbed up onto the 3rd tier of saddle racks, stood on my Passier saddle and peed on it! It's me or the goat--no half measures!

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          • #25
            I hate goats. I had this problem at a barn and basically had to teach the goats to fear the sight of me (there were 4 of them and they were completely uncatchable). Carry a lunge whip and use it liberally anytime it gets within about a 20 foot radius of you. Sorry if that sound harsh, but it worked for me, and it was much preferable to the alternative of having my tack eaten, car climbed on, and goats running under my horse on cross ties or following us into the arena. Luckily, my horse didn't care, but to me, that was a major safety concern.

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            • #26
              I always said that when I got a farm of my own, I wanted to have goats. You guys have made me change my mind. No goats, no matter how adorable they are. Maybe a mini horse or a mini donkey. But zero goats.
              Adversity is the stone on which I sharpen my blade.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Pennywell Bay View Post
                I'm a BO with 3 goats. When I had boarders, it was my responsibility to keep the goats from harassing the boarders and destroying their stuff. This included a proper enclosure the goats could be put into when the boarders were there. On off peak hours, the goats had Free roam (my whole property was fenced and they were weed patrol).
                Mine were pretty docile and would easily go into their pen if I wasn't there to do it and someone was there. Thankfully my goats pretty much left everyone and their stuff alone. I would not have tolerated the goats annoying the boarders as you have described.
                If your BO doesn't have the respect innate, you need to have a conversation with her.
                We had goats and boarders also. Our goats spent winter time in pens and most summers out keeping weeds down in the pasture and woods. We never had a problem with the goats bothering the boarders or any of our tack. Like horses, goats are very much herd animals. It sounds like the one at your barn really needs another goat for a buddy. Also maybe a salt block!
                So sorry the BO is being so stupid.

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                • #28
                  We have a miniature donkey and 2 pygmy type goats that get to wander the property where I board. Miniature donkey will jump on you and goats will head-butt you in the back of the knees. The goats have horns (dull but still there) and they walk under the horses. They will destroy anything they can get their mouths on. I used to always say I wanted them when I had my own place, definitely changed my mind because of these guys. Fortunately they are VERY food motivated so will follow me and some grain into a stall.

                  I would definitely talk to the BO about options for locking up the goat while you are there. Too much can go wrong with it loose

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                  • #29
                    By the way, how long do they live?
                    Not long if the local goatnappers need a barbeque main dish for the upcoming Quincanera.

                    And has nobody else heard the CarTalk episode, where the fellow is asking Click and Clack about somehow electrifying his cars so the goats won't jump on them?

                    There are probably fencing and Goat Entertainment strategies that might make that work. Just like dogs and small children can do fine at the barn. Or not, if their respective 'parents' are unwilling to look for solutions, some of which involve discipline.

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                    • #30
                      Not all goats will jump on cars. I have been at many a barn with goats (usually small ones) and so far none on cars. I had nubians (big goats) myself that could escape the fencing when ever the wished. Not once did they go car climbing. They also never chewed anything that wasn't plant related. Goats need to browse, perhaps all these goats are only getting hay and grain?

                      Mine lived with the horses and never chewed a tail. They would stand under the horses when it rained. They do hate being wet. They would stand under and complain very loudly. The goats could get into the barn but then they would have had to go from the safety under the horse all the way to the barn (silly things)

                      Regardless the owner needs to look after the goat in such away its not a detriment to their boarders.

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                      • #31
                        I also thought goats were cute and looked forward to the help I anticipated getting from them with brush removal when I agreed to board a few, my experience was just the opposite........
                        I do enjoy the goats and could even tolerate some of their bad behavior if they were mine. But the behavior was never ending, they ate everything from my outdoor Christmas lights to the air valve in my bosses Porches tire, they were worse then a herd of 2 year olds.

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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by Halt Near X View Post
                          Yeah, been there, got the t-shirt.
                          Your blog made me laugh out loud. You have a gift for humor!
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                          • #33
                            i can't stand goats for all these reasons. Annoying and destructive... We had one at our farm that we eventually gave away. I think they def need a goat buddy to be somewhat tolerable. They tend to stay away from the human stuff a bit more.

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                            • #34
                              For what its worth, this "first" issue at a new barn would be my last issue. I don't pay hundreds of dollars a month to have my tack, property, and enjoyment of my horse ruined. I'd be gone. Of course, I would give the BO an opportunity to get rid of the goats first, if she wanted my money, but, in the end, and I'm sure she would, if she valued the goats more than my board check, I would leave. If these goats weren't there when I signed the contract, I would consider the contract broken and leave as soon as I had another place.

                              No reason to put up with someone else's selfishness like that. I mean really, with no thought to the boarders she purports to be in business to cater ro. Honestly.
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                              • #35
                                Awwww. I want a miniature fainting goat!!! Just not at the barn!
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                                -- Stendal (epitaph)

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                                • #36
                                  Goat needs a stall you can lock it into. If there is no goat stall, but other empty stalls... use those. Heck, I sometimes have to round up 4 chickens and lock them in my horses stall. At least you only have one goat to apprehend.

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                                  • #37
                                    Here's some info on miniature fainting goats. According to the breeder, they are not prone to jumping.
                                    http://hobbyhills.com/miniature-fain...oats-for-sale/
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                                    • #38
                                      If it's a fainting goat you could just keep startling it every 10 -15 minutes and it'd pretty much be stiff and laying down the whole time you're there...
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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by VCT View Post
                                        If it's a fainting goat you could just keep startling it every 10 -15 minutes and it'd pretty much be stiff and laying down the whole time you're there...
                                        Well, at least it would be easy to catch.

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                                        • #40
                                          BTDT BO got two goats to "eat weeds". Nope. They ate horse feed and chewed anything in the barn! They kneecapped people too. BO defended the goats and claimed that they were only aggressive because "people were mean to them".
                                          I eventually left.

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