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  • USDA killing horses in Texas?

    I was at a meeting with some horse people from several different disciplines recently and one of them said he had gotten a call the USDA was killing unwanted horses in Texas. He asked if anyone could get details on this he wanted to know about it. He is very active in laws, legislation regarding horse cruelty and wants to see if this is just a rumor or if there are any facts.

    Does anyone know anything about this? I have not other details than what is listed here.

    Thanks, Bopper

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    Here in Pennsylvania there is an auction at New Holand every Monday morning. Hundreds of horses are there. The "Killers" congregate around the sides to pick out the
    best buys. I am told, that now that New Holand can no longer sell horses for slaughter, there is a special meeting spot nearby where these horses are collected and sent to Canada. I have not seen this personally, and was only told that it does exist.
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      Just because we don't slaughter horses here in the United States anymore, don't think that killer buyers no longer exist at the auctions. They freely bid on and purchase horses specifically for the trip across the borders into either Canada or Mexico to be slaughtered. The practice of auctions selling to killer buyers has never stopped.

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      • #4
        Why can't New holland sell horses for slaughter did Ohio pass a law banning it? Theres actually more horses that went to slaughter in 08 then any of the previous 5 or 6 years. We sell them to Mex. and Can. which we always have just more of them now. Here in Mn. we've always sent slaughter horses to Can. its a whole lot closer then Tx.
        Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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        • #5
          no info to add except that New Holland is in Pennsylvania, not Ohio.

          Last I checked they can still be exported to Mex and Canada.

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            Originally posted by Joshua's Mom View Post
            Here in Pennsylvania there is an auction at New Holand every Monday morning. Hundreds of horses are there. The "Killers" congregate around the sides to pick out the
            best buys. I am told, that now that New Holand can no longer sell horses for slaughter, there is a special meeting spot nearby where these horses are collected and sent to Canada. I have not seen this personally, and was only told that it does exist.
            Yeah you are incorrect about most of this. They can and do sell horses for whatever purpose the buyer has in mind for them. The special meeting spot you may be thinking of is where they sell the horses that are in such bad shape that they would get seized by the humane officer get sold. Used to be the 7-11 parking lot but they most likely move it around alot.
            Slaughter is not illegal in the US. It just isn't being done anywhere right now. Without the anti-slaughter law in place people are free to export.
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              Originally posted by Bopper View Post
              I was at a meeting with some horse people from several different disciplines recently and one of them said he had gotten a call the USDA was killing unwanted horses in Texas. He asked if anyone could get details on this he wanted to know about it. He is very active in laws, legislation regarding horse cruelty and wants to see if this is just a rumor or if there are any facts.

              Does anyone know anything about this? I have not other details than what is listed here.

              Thanks, Bopper
              If it's the plant I'm thinking of I think they are still slaughtering a limited number of horses - but the meat is for zoo animals, not human consumption.

              Double check me on that because I have not kept on top of what happens at that plant.

              Horse slaughter has not been made illegal in the US. Horses are regularly used to feed zoo animals and are also fed to working dogs.
              Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
              Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
              -Rudyard Kipling

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                The Dallas Crown plant still slaughters about 200 head a month for zoo contracts. Slaughter has never been banned in the U.S. except for Ca., Tx., and Il. and in Tx. and Il. only for sale for human consumption.
                Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                  BTW the USDA isn't killing them they only inspect the plant.
                  Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bopper View Post
                    I was at a meeting with some horse people from several different disciplines recently and one of them said he had gotten a call the USDA was killing unwanted horses in Texas. He asked if anyone could get details on this he wanted to know about it. He is very active in laws, legislation regarding horse cruelty and wants to see if this is just a rumor or if there are any facts.

                    Does anyone know anything about this? I have not other details than what is listed here.

                    Thanks, Bopper
                    Why doesn't he call the USDA and ask them, or make a public disclosure request?
                    DON'T MAKE ME COME DOWN THERE!!! - God

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                    • #11
                      Could this be referring to the place that was offering euthanasia to people for their horses that they couldnt' keep/afford? Where was that?
                      www.ncsporthorse.com

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                      • #12
                        Slaughter is still legal in this country. Slaughter for export for human consumption is not legal in the states that held the slaughter plants. Exporting live horses to Canada and Mexico to be slaughtered there for any reason isn't illegal. New Holland still has kill buyers who then ship to feed lots and/or directly over the borders for slaughter or for resale. The TX platn still slaughters horses on a regular basis but the resulting meat is not exported for human consumption, all perfectly legal. The USDA monitors the plants and does not do the slaughtering.
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                        • #13
                          That was in California.

                          Like county and I wrote, the plant in question is still slaughtering horses for zoo animals. (Lions, tigers)

                          There is nothing illegal about that.

                          Horse slaughter has not been banned in the US. The plants were shut down for processing horses for human consumption. And like others wrote, the USDA does NOT slaughter animals. The USDA provides inspection services for all processing facilities.

                          Your friend could find that out by just calling the plant.
                          Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                          Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
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                          • #14
                            Killing? That is pretty strong language! I would not be surprised if they are hosting low cost/free euthanasia clinics for unwanted horses - it's happening all over the country. They can't all get a home - so then what? It's starve, Canada, or Mexico. Or euthanasia. Not killing Not in the sense you make it out to be

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                              Originally posted by Bopper View Post
                              I was at a meeting with some horse people from several different disciplines recently and one of them said he had gotten a call the USDA was killing unwanted horses in Texas. He asked if anyone could get details on this he wanted to know about it. He is very active in laws, legislation regarding horse cruelty and wants to see if this is just a rumor or if there are any facts.

                              Does anyone know anything about this? I have not other details than what is listed here.

                              Thanks, Bopper
                              This sounds like some urban legend. USDA is not set up to conduct massive horse slaughter. There is no "Animal Disposal Agency" in the USDA.

                              In times of a public health crisis something could be organized, but it wouldn't happen just because there are unwanted horses about.
                              "It’s a well-documented fact that of all the animals in the realm of agriculture, Bulls have the highest job satisfaction rate."~~Ree Drummond, AKA the Pioneer Woman

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                                My friend heard this rumor from someone else and he asked everyone at the meeting to check out the rumors with their connections. He is looking for any information confirming that USDA (the United States Department of Agriculture NOT a slaughter plant) is killing unwanted horses. The rumor came from West Texas. If anyone does happen to hear any confirmation of this information please let me know.

                                His point was that if USDA is killing horses in an effort to control unwanted horses why is there a ban on slaughter. And will this service be offered in other states. During the meeting I attended the abandoning of horses was discussed at length and due to a lack of state laws there is no solution about what to do with these horses left either turned out, tied to someone's trailer while they were away (for instance on a trail ride) or even left in someone's pasture.

                                Thanks, Bopper

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                                  Originally posted by Bopper View Post
                                  His point was that if USDA is killing horses in an effort to control unwanted horses why is there a ban on slaughter.
                                  As has been pointed out, there is no nationwide ban on slaughter.

                                  Only in CA. And in IL and TX for human consumption.
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                                  • #18
                                    New Holland can still sell for slaughter, why do you think they can't?


                                    Originally posted by Joshua's Mom View Post
                                    Here in Pennsylvania there is an auction at New Holand every Monday morning. Hundreds of horses are there. The "Killers" congregate around the sides to pick out the
                                    best buys. I am told, that now that New Holand can no longer sell horses for slaughter, there is a special meeting spot nearby where these horses are collected and sent to Canada. I have not seen this personally, and was only told that it does exist.

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                                    • #19
                                      I'm in Texas, run a rescue, and have heard nothing of this. I WISH someone would offer euthanasia to horses people don't want. We spent some time at our BOD meeting this weekend talking about offering a euthanasia clinic like NorCal does. I'm working on logistics...
                                      Visit us at Bluebonnet Equine Humane Society - www.bluebonnetequine.org

                                      Want to get involved in rescue or start your own? Check out How to Start a Horse Rescue - www.howtostartarescue.com

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                                      • #20
                                        Would this be part of the BLM thing, where they were planning to euth mustangs???
                                        "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."--Lt. Gen. David Morrison, Austalian Army Chief

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